[Biofuel] Just some basics

2005-09-30 Thread Kurt Nolte
Not sure if my message to the List Admins to get onto the list made it into general circulation, so I'll brief the brief so to speak and then crank forward. I'm Kurt Nolte, college student who's survived nearly twenty one years of living (Go me! :p), and all of it in the Deep South. I'm an

Re: [Biofuel] $50 universal digital tool, was $150 ebook machine

2005-09-30 Thread TarynToo
I'm sure the Jinke readers have a great (or at least large) display, but they're too big, too single purpose, and too proprietary. I've been using Palm devices to read etexts for years. Right now my Palm contains a few of Mark Twain's books, a Terry Pratchett novel, both volumes of Democracy

Re: [Biofuel] the power of spin - harnessing artificial tornadoes as an energy source

2005-09-30 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
My real name is Keith but if I used it in this list, it would cause some confusion would it not? Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net ---Original Message--- From: Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] turbocharged vs supercharged diesels

2005-09-30 Thread Doug Foskey
But what about the Brown-Boveri 'Supercharger'?? It uses the gas movement of the exhaust to 'supercharge' the inlet charge. I had one of these fitted (standard) to a Mazda 626 Diesel. They were amazing: great grunt down low: exactly where you need it. (I could go around a tight round-a-bout in

Re: [Biofuel] the power of spin - harnessing artificial tornadoes as an energy source

2005-09-30 Thread Manick Harris
Hi member Joe, The proposal is very worthy of consideration using waste heat from boiler stacks whatever fuel is used. Waste heat contains up to 2/3 rds heat value of fuel used and provides natural draft for the hearth.I have measured chimney temperature of 300C so there should be plenty of draft

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Kurt Nolte
I wonder if you couldn't improve the speed of the it if you made it a vacuum filtration process? Hook up a vacuum pump to an opening on the side of the barrel, set high up so it doesn't actually remove oil, and turned it on to create a decreased pressure within the barrel to draw the oil through

[Biofuel] Japan - 2005 Environmental White Paper: Developing Strategies and Human Resources to Deal with Global Warming

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
September 30, 2005 Copyright (c) 2005, Japan for Sustainability Japan for Sustainability (JFS) is a non-profit communication platform to disseminate environmental information from Japan to the world, with the aim of helping both move onto a sustainable path. See

Re: [Biofuel] alternative biodiesel process

2005-09-30 Thread Joe Street
Hi Joe; Right. The abstract talks about a relationship between higer voltages and longer carbon chains in the ester which translates into higher fuel energy content (cetane rating? I don't know if that is equivalent I am no chemist). I suspect the issue is more correctly related to field

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Joe Street
Careful. Even a modest vacuum will result in tremendous forces developing on the large surface area of that drum which is way too wimpy metal for the job as a vacuum vessel. You will end up crushing the drum and making a huge mess! Joe Kurt Nolte wrote: I wonder if you couldn't improve

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Tom Irwin
Hello Hal, Great idea and reusable as well. Thanks, Tom From: hal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:37:20 -0300Subject: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVOThought you folks might enjoy a cheap filtering technique we've been using for

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Hal wrote:Thought you folks might enjoy a cheap filtering technique we've been using for several months.http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-halspersonalpagesI like it! I use old pillowcases in the same way with 5 gallon buckets for the initial WVO filtering, but yours is prettier! -- Thanks,PaulHe's

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Doug Turner
Thanks Hal. I'm new to this biofuel adventure and I was wondering about an inexpensive but reusable filtering method. Doug Turner - Original Message - From: hal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:37 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Cheap and

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread David Miller
Joe Street wrote: Careful. Even a modest vacuum will result in tremendous forces developing on the large surface area of that drum which is way too wimpy metal for the job as a vacuum vessel. You will end up crushing the drum and making a huge mess! I'll give odds on the sheet

Re: [Biofuel] the power of spin - harnessing artificial tornadoes as anenergy source

2005-09-30 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What if we tapped into the same source of energy as the hurricanes, but without the hurricane.There are turbines that at operate on the temperature differential between warm surface water and cold deep water in the ocean. Is the gulf of mexico cold enough at the bottom to run one of these?

[Biofuel] The U.S. Has Plans to Invade Iran Before Bush's Term Ends

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10441.htm The U.S. Has Plans to Invade Iran Before Bush's Term Ends By Walter C. Uhler 09/29/05 ICH -- -- Bill Gertz is a right-wing national security reporter for the Rev. Sun Yung Moon's neo-fascist newspaper, The Washington Times. He's also

[Biofuel] Gulf factor key to PM's Iran vote decision

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050926/asp/nation/story_5284580.asp Gulf factor key to PM's Iran vote decision By K.P. NAYAR 09/25/05 The Telegraph -- -- Washington, New Delhi acquitted itself reasonably well in the first significant challenge to its global standing and diplomacy since the

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Andres Yver
Hi Dermot, On Thursday, September 29, 2005, at 05:56 PM, dermot wrote: snip It may be the case that some people cannot tolerate a vegetarian diet. I don't know. My point is that IF we can tolerate this diet that we should because it is unethical to kill sentient creatures for no good

Re: [Biofuel] the power of spin - harnessing artificial tornadoes as anenergy source

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
If man could harness some of the energy of storms, the storms probably would not be as bad. Maybe the storms are as bad as they need to be. Keith Greg H. - Original Message - From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005

Re: [Biofuel] Just some basics

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Kurt, welcome snip Yes, I'm planning on starting with methanol first. ^.~ Also. I know there was some mention of the use of molecular sieve to remove the water from things... but I can't find where on the Journey site I saw the mention. Point me there, please? Anhydrous ethanol

Re: [Biofuel] Water yield from Sodium methoxode mixing.

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
Upon looking at the reaction of NaOH and methanol I realized that one equivalent of water is a yield of the reaction. Will this interfere with the tranesterification reaction? I thought that I read water wil cause saponification. Thanks, Bobby Clark If you looked at the messages I reffed in my

Re: [Biofuel] the power of spin - harnessing artificial tornadoes as anenergy source

2005-09-30 Thread Joe Street
So if a storm rages in the ocean and nobody is around to hear it, does it waste any energy? Maybe the storms are as bad as they need to be. Keith Greg H. - Original Message - From: "Alt.EnergyNetwork" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday,

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Chickens. I can kill chickens. Bring 'em on. Andres Yver wrote: Hi Dermot, On Thursday, September 29, 2005, at 05:56 PM, dermot wrote: snip It may be the case that some people cannot tolerate a vegetarian diet. I don't know. My point is that IF we can tolerate this diet that we should

Re: [Biofuel] To Conserve Gas, President Calls for Less Driving

2005-09-30 Thread Patrick Anthony Opaco
Hehe sounds familiar. Here in the Philippines, our president tells us to walk or use our bicycles. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Andres Yver
Hi Mike, On Friday, September 30, 2005, at 02:53 PM, Mike Weaver wrote: Chickens. I can kill chickens. Bring 'em on. Heh! I Have only met one person that has ever defended chickens. Most people have absolutely no qualms about killing chicken. I used to dislike them because they were scary

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
Chickens. I can kill chickens. Bring 'em on. I'm wondering whether you ever looked one in the eye. Yes? How can you relish killing anything that'll look you in the eye? Best Keith Andres Yver wrote: Hi Dermot, On Thursday, September 29, 2005, at 05:56 PM, dermot wrote: snip

Re: [Biofuel] the power of spin - harnessing artificial tornadoes as anenergy source

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
So if a storm rages in the ocean and nobody is around to hear it, does it waste any energy? :-) Sounds like a haiku. Waste is a human concept, I doubt you'll find anything being wasted with a storm raging in the ocean, whether there's anyone around to hear it or not. Hurricanes and typhoons

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Andres. Dermot Hi Dermot, On Thursday, September 29, 2005, at 05:56 PM, dermot wrote: snip It may be the case that some people cannot tolerate a vegetarian diet. I don't know. My point is that IF we can tolerate this diet that we should because it is unethical to kill sentient

[Biofuel] Steel drums, Where to get them?

2005-09-30 Thread Michael Luich
I'm looking forward to getting started on making biodiesel (hopefully for the house as well) But i'm not sure where i could get a hold of steel drums? any suggestions? Mike Luich [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Steel drums, Where to get them?

2005-09-30 Thread ROY Washbish
Mike If you have an oil changing place near you you could try there. That's whereI can get them in Connecticut, USA Roy Washbish Michael Luich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking forward to getting started on making biodiesel (hopefully for the house as well) But i'm not sure where i could get

Re: [Biofuel] Steel drums, Where to get them?

2005-09-30 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Around here (colorado, USA), the organic soap making place has lots of em. All their chemicals and oils get delivered in big barrels, either steel or poly, and they just have to dispose of them afterwards. Zeke On 9/30/05, ROY Washbish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike If you have an oil changing

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mike, On Friday, September 30, 2005, at 02:53 PM, Mike Weaver wrote: Chickens. I can kill chickens. Bring 'em on. Heh! I Have only met one person that has ever defended chickens. :-) You just met another one. Most people have absolutely no qualms about killing chicken. I used to dislike

[Biofuel] Chickens

2005-09-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Alright. Domestic turkeys are dumber than chickens. Wild turkeys are smarter than me; or at least I never managed to shoot one and eat it. I even admit I have some affection for what my uncle would call scratch hens that actually lived outside and ate bugs and whatever else they could find. I

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Great. Now I suppose everyone is going to start piling on me just because of that little youthful indescretion at University with The Young Cannibals Association. Keith Addison wrote: Hi Andres. Dermot Hi Dermot, On Thursday, September 29, 2005, at 05:56 PM, dermot wrote: snip

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Mike Weaver
Yes, I can say I've looked them in the eye. Relish it? No. That was facetious. I said earlier I've pretty much given up eating most meat. The chickens I killed was because I wanted to eat them, and in those cases the chicken keepers thought it was fair for me to do my share. It was a lot

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Greg and April
what viedo format is that in? It will not open for me, - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 13:48 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming It's hard to find a dumb

Re: [Biofuel] the power of spin - harnessing artificial tornadoes as anenergy source

2005-09-30 Thread Kurt Nolte
Perhaps instead of direct harnessing, which could definitely be bad, maybe we could instead work on hurricane proof wind turbines on flats or platforms just offshore? Design them to roll with the punch and operate at high speeds, to suck energy out of the winds just before the storm makes landfall

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread JJJN
YES! Thank you for the great idea! I will ask my wife to help me make one soon. I have been pondering long and hard on this part of the process. Thanks for sharing, Jim hal wrote: Thought you folks might enjoy a cheap filtering technique we've been using for several months.

[Biofuel] Energy and advanced civilizations

2005-09-30 Thread Bong Sol Cruz
quite lengthy but a rather interesting read... 8^) Physics of Type I, II, and III Civilizations -Excerpts from an article by Michio Kaku Specifically, we can rank civilizations by their energy consumption, using the following principles: 1) The laws of thermodynamics. Even an advanced

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Kurt Nolte
True. What if it were more of a pulsed vacuum, based upon rate of flow? A little vacuum assistance here, a little vacuum assistance there; what I was operating off of was the principle behind a little piece of lab equipment we used in high school, in which running water was used to generate

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-09-30 Thread Keith Addison
what viedo format is that in? RealPlayer. It will not open for me, Dear oh dear, do you mean there are STILL people who don't use Macs, after 20 years? When will they ever learn? LOL! The video's at the top right. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2178920.stm BBC NEWS | Science/Nature |

Re: [Biofuel] Cheap and easy filtering of WVO

2005-09-30 Thread Evergreen Solutions
Why a vacuum? Jeeze why a vacuum? Pumps are so much cheaper! 2 stage, barrel on a barrel, filter in the middle. Air tight @ the filter, airtight @ the top. A medium sized fish aquarium should be able to generate enough pressure (or an air compressor, they can be had for cheaply enough), pushes