Re: [biofuel] Preserving the harvest

2004-07-09 Thread Donald Allwright
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[biofuel] Have I made biodiesel?

2004-07-09 Thread Thomas Kelly
Have I succeeded in making biodiesel? I Last Fall I attended a workshop on producing biodiesel and was given a recipe.A few days ago I decided to give it a try. I used a gallon (3.78L) of corn oil from the market. Unable to find any NaOH, I used KOH instead. I used plastic milk

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale - Pieter

2004-07-09 Thread Pieter Koole
Sorry, I don't understand what price you mean ? How much would it be in ? Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message

Re: [biofuel] washing biodiesel in large processor

2004-07-09 Thread Appal Energy
Ardis, You will find, after enough experimentation and out of pocket costs, that mechanical agitation in a wash tank is the least expensive, consumes the least energy, requires the least amount of time and leaves you with a finished product as good as or better than mist- or bubble-washing.

[biofuel] Re: IBC PROCESSOR

2004-07-09 Thread bioveging
Mark, Try to find some used tractor trailer fuel tanks. They generally hold about 2-300 gals per side and probaby have the right holes at the right places, are designed to hold fuel oil and are not likely to rot out. Or should a smaller version be desired there is always used refer

[biofuel] Re: Benz question...sorry,not biofuel related

2004-07-09 Thread bioveging
A forum for all things Benz by category and year, experts on every aspect of Benz mechanics ect... http://www.benzworld.org/forums/default.asp L. --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, CHRISTY BLAKELEY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DUDE IT'S THE VACCUME PUMP. DO YOUR DOORS LOCK?--- Steven Pfaff [EMAIL

[biofuel] Thin red layer on top

2004-07-09 Thread Teoman Naskali
In my first batch there is a very thin reddish layer on top, if there is about 12 cm in the jar 2mm of it is the layer on top and 1 - 2 cm of it is the glycerine at the bottom. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We

[biofuel] PVC as processor material

2004-07-09 Thread Teoman Naskali
Can PVC plastic be used for processor material? Wouldnt PVC pipes make the perfect processors? I think that they had about 40 cm diameter pipes, one meter of this would hold about 120 litres. And for washing one could use many very thin and tall pipes. The thing that interests me more is that

[biofuel] Perfect Processor you can buy from the market

2004-07-09 Thread Teoman Naskali
Why not use a washing machine as a processor? It has everything you need. Resistance, mixer... you could even select a program that does the whole process for you. It even empties out the biodiesel to your settling tank. And im shure once you are in to it you can use the washingliquid inputs for

[biofuel] Test wash turned completely white

2004-07-09 Thread Teoman Naskali
I just did a test wash on 25 ml of my first batch and 25 ml of water in a jar. I mixed the 2 together by violently shaking the jar for about 30 seconds. The whole thing turned in to a white foam. And it took about 5 - 10 mins for the white stuff to separate from my biodiesel. Is there anything

Re: [biofuel] License

2004-07-09 Thread Colin Little
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[biofuel] RE: DC Biofuel class

2004-07-09 Thread Grahams
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[biofuel] China - Conserving Energy Growth

2004-07-09 Thread MH
Published on Monday, July 5, 2004 by China Daily China: Energy Conservation to Top Government Agenda http://www.energybulletin.net/newswire.php?id=905 Published on Sunday, July 4, 2004 by The Guardian China's Growth Flickers to a Halt by Jonathan Watts

Re: [biofuel] US Climate Stewardship Act

2004-07-09 Thread MH
Act Now on Climate Change July 8, 2004 http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=131subid=192contentid=252751 While tornados are toppling the Hollywood sign on celluloid, emissions of gases linked to climate change continue to rise unabated in the United States according to a report released

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale - Pieter

2004-07-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pieter The price is negotiable around the four to five thousand UK pound price including 3-phase invertor and single phase motor. Mark ___ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - so many all-new ways to express

RE: [biofuel] Perfect Processor you can buy from the market

2004-07-09 Thread Emmerick, Craig
Hi Teoman Excellent Idea!! Your idea has put so much freshness to an idea I had on building a processor. I have an old washing machine to experiment on, but the wife will obviously have something to say. Heh Heh. Let us know more about your processor project please Craig Emmerick

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2004-07-09 Thread Keith Addison
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Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale - Pieter

2004-07-09 Thread Andrew Lowe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pieter The price is negotiable around the four to five thousand UK pound price including 3-phase invertor and single phase motor. Mark I'm sorry I've lost track as to who actually has this unit for sale, but could you please let me know the model or some more

[biofuel] solar fabric

2004-07-09 Thread tallex2002
Iowa company develops solar fabric that gets Army's attention http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2004-07-09- solarfabric_x.htm Get Your Daily Alternative Energy News Fix http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/ news-resources-sources

[biofuel] Re: washing biodiesel in large processor

2004-07-09 Thread bioveging
Ok, now I am confused. If I were to take the clear water pump for mixing the reaction with and plumb it to circulate the wash, or use another similar pump to do that I end up with better fuel ? Whenever I have done the quality test after having followed the procedure to the letter I always get

RE: [biofuel] Re: Benz question...sorry,not biofuel related

2004-07-09 Thread James Merkle
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Re: [biofuel] Test wash turned completely white

2004-07-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Teoman I just did a test wash on 25 ml of my first batch and 25 ml of water in a jar. I mixed the 2 together by violently shaking the jar for about 30 seconds. The whole thing turned in to a white foam. And it took about 5 - 10 mins for the white stuff to separate from my biodiesel. Is

Re: [biofuel] Have I made biodiesel?

2004-07-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tom Have I succeeded in making biodiesel? Yes. It's a good start, well done, congratulations. However, there are a lot of things you don't say and that might need attention when you take your next step. How much KOH (or NaOH) and how you measured it, how much methanol, how you mixed

Re: [biofuel] Perfect Processor you can buy from the market

2004-07-09 Thread Keith Addison
Check out previous discussions on washing machines as processors in the list archives (discouraging): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Best wishes Keith Why not use a washing machine as a processor? It has everything you need. Resistance, mixer... you could even select a program that

Re: [biofuel] PVC as processor material

2004-07-09 Thread Keith Addison
Can PVC plastic be used for processor material? Wouldnt PVC pipes make the perfect processors? I think that they had about 40 cm diameter pipes, one meter of this would hold about 120 litres. And for washing one could use many very thin and tall pipes. The thing that interests me more is that

[biofuel] Re: Preserving the harvest

2004-07-09 Thread Brian
This is getting off the original topic, but you triggered a thought when you mentioned how much power your monitor uses when off. I have surge protectors on all of my electronic equipment. When things are off, I also turn the surge protectors off. I have assumed that this is blocking the

Re: [biofuel] Re: Preserving the harvest

2004-07-09 Thread Donald Allwright
Not really familiar with surge protectors, but it may depend on the individual model. The easiest way to find out is to turn the protector off and see if you still have volts coming out the other end. However, I would have thought that it would turn the power off, as turning off the protection

[biofuel] Zeolites

2004-07-09 Thread tallex2002
Hi all, This material has useful applications for biofuel production as well. Zeolites in Solar Energy Applications http://www.eere.energy.gov/consumerinfo/factsheets/ba3.html Get Your Daily Alternative Energy News Fix http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/

Re: [biofuel] solar fabric

2004-07-09 Thread Andrew Plumb
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Re: [biofuel] ANyone along I-80 want to buy a biodiesel processor?

2004-07-09 Thread Jennifer Doty
Mark, This was posted on another group I am a member in, just thought may be interested. crazeway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi everybody My girlfriend and I will be driving across the country and are interested in seeing effective small scale renewable energy systems. We have about 20 grand

Re: [biofuel] Re: washing biodiesel in large processor

2004-07-09 Thread Appal Energy
Ok, now I am confused. If I were to take the clear water pump for mixing the reaction with and plumb it to circulate the wash, or use another similar pump to do that I end up with better fuel ? No. The fuel will only be as good as you make it prior to washing (to be read complete or

Re: [biofuel] Preserving the harvest

2004-07-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Kim Thank you, Keith, for all the suggestions, but what I was trying to get at, is how to evaluate the different methods by the energy used. Might be worth a closer look. I think the misc-survival folks tend to take that aspect seriously, and it was one reason I mentioned Sally

Re: [biofuel] How's Come Berkely is the Hot Bed of Forward Thinking.

2004-07-09 Thread Keith Addison
Isn't someone going to take Jennifer up on her suggestion? We have members around Boston, or within reach of it. Good opportunity. (Welcome, Jennifer!) Best wishes Keith Hello Phil, Martin, and the rest of bio fuel members. I am new to the group, and I just recently learned about bio

Re: [biofuel] Preserving the harvest

2004-07-09 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Thanks again, I do use the older techniques when I can, but, if I lived in those days, I would have died very young. I don't tolerate sugar and honey and lots of other things, including too much salt. I have learned to corn beef, which is actually salt beef with spicing. I do make jerky,

Re: [biofuel] How's Come Berkely is the Hot Bed of Forward Thinking.

2004-07-09 Thread Lyle Estill
Dear Jennifer et al. I'll bite. I've been making biodiesel for three years, I'm well into my second back porch refinery, and I've addressed a number of large groups--DOE conferences on down. I'm on my way to NBB next week in D.C., and I have done some legislative work on biodiesel in North

[biofuel] Ok Since I Stirred the Pot Some...

2004-07-09 Thread Phil Dodd
How about some ideas to get some activism going. Or to address the question in more understandable way, how does one become active in the biodiesel movement on a local level. I live in Pennsylvania and am in contact with a few folks who are making for their own use. Who should I be

[biofuel] Re: washing biodiesel in large processor

2004-07-09 Thread bioveging
Well, it must be some other problem then as I let it settle for about 24 hours and at times the glycerine is almost solid when I decant the BD. Maybe it's the oil samples I have been using, perkaps I shall give it a go with another source feed and see what develops (hopefully good BD). The PH I