Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Hakan Falk
It goes deeper than short memory and only the Bush machine. Bush is only taking unfair advantages of a much large and loner term effort. For the Americans the WWII has not yet stopped, so also the fight against an illusive communism. It is a part of the general picture of keeping the Americans

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-08 Thread Keith Addison
ok, obviously i touched a bare nerve of which i know nothing about, and apologize for bringing up bad memories. sorry folks. No, Jason, you are wrong. You did not touch a bare nerve, and they're not bad memories. You've completely missed the point. So did Jesse. I'm a little astonished, I don't

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread fox mulder
--- D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this poll shows how the short term memory of Americans is totally lacking. Also it shows how effective the propaganda machine of BushCo is. In a word, terrorfying. Peace, D. Mindock P.S. We have met the enemy and he is us. Poll:

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike Why're you so doubtful about it? Sure, it's always good to check, but it's well in line with what usually happens, as people are saying. For instance (from the list archives): http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/20263 War on Iraq: The World According to a Bush Voter October 21, 2004 A

[Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hi Mike, What's the deal in your country? Is your government walking in lockstep with the will of the overwhelming majority of the "ordinary" citizens? What is "ordinary" anyway I'll leave it at that for now.My government would not dare to nuke anybodys Country,its already enough for

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Michael Redler
Hakan,"...so also the fight against an illusive communism.""Illusive" is a good word to describe it, although I prefer to call it non-existant?The confrontation was betweenthe US andan expanding fascist empire in Russia. However, calling it "communist"is as deceptive as the so called "war on

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Michael Redler
"...they site a poll WITH HEADLINES that says Fox is the most trusted news source in the U.S.,..."Nice catch Mike. Despite NewsMax catering to right wing interests, I think that the polls are believable, especiallyconsidering the astounding progress made by the current regime through channels like

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, Since I think I introduced corporacracy (in greek, corporation power as opposite to democracy that is people power) on this list and think it describes well this phenomena. A logical definition of capitalism is today is better described as corporatism. What I mean is that it could

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread lres1
My thoughts only. If Ike E wanted to stop W.W.II why did he halt the advance of Montgomery? Did this halt mean that the "cold war" and all it entails kept the war machines/companies alive? I put it to you if the war had stopped in one hit how many would have been out of work and how many

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Hakan, Which Mike are responding too? I invoked corporotacracy (but I think corpatism is equally apt) but not Stalin. Mike the Elder Hakan Falk wrote: Mike, Since I think I introduced corporacracy (in greek, corporation power as opposite to democracy that is people power) on this list and

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-08 Thread Appal Energy
Jason, ok, obviously i touched a bare nerve I don't think there was ever or is any bare nerve. To me, and perhaps only to me, that implies some sort of agony, perhaps even incapacitating. That's not quite what has happened, much less continues. It did take a fair stretch of mental taffy to

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
forget everything there Ok, now what? Appal Energy wrote: Yo dee ho Keith, This offlist stuff these folks do here happens especially if anyone mentions Aleks's Foolproof acid-base method, they really hate Aleks, though they've never encountered him in any way. He's at Journey to

Re: [Biofuel] gelled rebatch

2006-05-08 Thread Appal Energy
Ryan, Once, a bit over six years ago, I rather hastily put together a gallon of what I thought would be biodiesel from hempseed oil. Sure enough, it glopped out. I racked my brain as to what went wrong and could come up with nothing, believing that I'd done everything to the tee. Over the

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Michael Redler
Hakan,You said: "What I mean is that it could easily replace both communism and capitalism, since it is and has always been a question of which "elite" group that take the power."I respectfully disagree.Re: Replacing Communism1.) You can't replace whathasn't existed. If you mean Stalinism,

Re: [Biofuel] gelled rebatch

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
And what happened to the REST of the hemp plant? Appal Energy wrote: Ryan, Once, a bit over six years ago, I rather hastily put together a gallon of what I thought would be biodiesel from hempseed oil. Sure enough, it glopped out. I racked my brain as to what went wrong and could come up

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-08 Thread Joe Street
Thomas Kelly wrote: I have received off list contacts by some of the funny-named individuals you mention in your post. Their criticism of you was malicious .. the type that says more about the critic than the one criticized. They suggested that I go to the very places that had lead

Re: [Biofuel] jelly and jellybiofuel question

2006-05-08 Thread Joe Street
It tastes better with cider vinegar and sea salt. Just so you know J Sohow about ground-up dry wall and vinegar? Mike ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] gelled rebatch

2006-05-08 Thread Fred Finch
Didn't we cover that when we were talking about album covers?On 5/8/06, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:And what happened to the REST of the hemp plant?Appal Energy wrote: Ryan,Once, a bit over six years ago, I rather hastily put together a gallonof what I thought would be biodiesel from

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-08 Thread mark manchester
Hi Todd, Hey, what am I, smoked turkey? Jason gets off the hook but not me? Keith said 'end of discussion' and I have respectfully sent my apology off-list. Don't you guys go thinkin' I'm not apologetic! By golly, I do apologetic very well! Especially when warranted, like now, when I was all

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Geo Mantic
RGH! Media Conglomerates make me sick sometimes...(gulp) ...think i'll go make a batch of fuel Geoff ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, Lenin had western support, from industrial interests, this is documented. I even read about Lenins return to Russia, which was arranged by western friends. Trotsky supported by competing western interest, yes. Stalin, I do not know enough and have not seen any records of that, he also

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Redler
Hakan, You wrote: Lenin had western support, from industrial interests, this is documented. Documented? Where? Perhaps it's filed under L just before the Leuchter report. Lenin and Trotsky were influential in the creation of the first labor movement in the US (IWW) by virtue of one of it's

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, I think that you misunderstood what I said, deliberately or not, and to start an ideological debate. What I wanted to point out, was the similarities in that both (or all three), was set up for a relatively small group to control the people. The US democracy of today, is also in

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Mark` Cookson
Geoff Nice one !!! One day I will be doing the same!!! Yipe Mark From: Geo Mantic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 09:58:43 -0600 RGH! Media

[Biofuel] grass fed cattle

2006-05-08 Thread Jason Katie
i have an actual paper article here in my hand from my home town. it says a kid from the QC moved to minnesota and has gotten the novel idea from somewhere to raise all his cows solely and singularly on free range grasses. he mowed down his row crops and spread seeds of clover, grass, wheat,

[Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread D. Mindock
Here is a Philippine inventor who first started running cars on only water almost 30 years ago. He has 100 engines he has converted that will run on just tap or sea water. Needless to say all the car companies have tried to steal his technology so he is going to share it with anybody and everybody

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread Ken Provost
On May 8, 2006, at 4:06 PM, D. Mindock wrote: 1 liter of water will run the car for an hour. Very efficient electrolysis is used to get the hydrogen from the water while the car's in operation. No time to read the details just now -- I'm guessing the electricity comes from a wind turbine

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of bombing Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Hakan, By the way, it was similar naive expectations on that the Americans would be welcomed by the people on the streets, as in Iraq and Afghanistan. They never learn. No we don't. I can't tell you frustrating THAT is. BTW, Redler and I have agreed that he will argue with you on Monday,

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread David Miller
D. Mindock wrote: Here is a Philippine inventor who first started running cars on only water almost 30 years ago. He has 100 engines he has converted that will run on just tap or sea water. Needless to say all the car companies have tried to steal his technology so he is going to share it

Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on Iran

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
I just filled up - a good feeling indeed! Mark` Cookson wrote: Geoff Nice one !!! One day I will be doing the same!!! Yipe Mark From: Geo Mantic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Poll in favor of Nukes on

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Paddles Ken Provost wrote: On May 8, 2006, at 4:06 PM, D. Mindock wrote: 1 liter of water will run the car for an hour. Very efficient electrolysis is used to get the hydrogen from the water while the car's in operation. No time to read the details just now -- I'm guessing the

Re: [Biofuel] gelled rebatch

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
I don't reememmbbber Fred Finch wrote: Didn't we cover that when we were talking about album covers? On 5/8/06, *Mike Weaver* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what happened to the REST of the hemp plant? Appal Energy wrote: Ryan, Once,

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread robert luis rabello
D. Mindock wrote: Here is a Philippine inventor who first started running cars on only water almost 30 years ago. He has 100 engines he has converted that will run on just tap or sea water. Uh huh . . . Needless to say all the car companies have tried to steal his technology so he

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Guess I shouldn't have sent that investment check - darn, he seemed so nice, too. David Miller wrote: D. Mindock wrote: Here is a Philippine inventor who first started running cars on only water almost 30 years ago. He has 100 engines he has converted that will run on just tap or sea water.

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Ha. I've already supercharged that car. Now it goes TWICE as fast on a glass of water. robert luis rabello wrote: D. Mindock wrote: Here is a Philippine inventor who first started running cars on only water almost 30 years ago. He has 100 engines he has converted that will run on just

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread Andrew Netherton
On 5/8/06, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No time to read the details just now -- I'm guessing the electricity comes from a wind turbine on top of the car, which is turned by the wind from the car's motion down the road! :-) -K Don't laugh. I actually had some discussions with

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread Mike Weaver
Solar panels on a Prius? Andrew Netherton wrote: On 5/8/06, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No time to read the details just now -- I'm guessing the electricity comes from a wind turbine on top of the car, which is turned by the wind from the car's motion down the road! :-) -K

Re: [Biofuel] gelled rebatch

2006-05-08 Thread Appal Energy
You'd have to ask the folks over in China. All that came into the warehouse was the sterile seed, which was pressed for oil. I presume that the stalks were used for fibre/fabric, as that's where the majority of the industrial hemp came from at the time. Todd Swearingen Mike Weaver wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Car runs on water

2006-05-08 Thread JJJN
Hmmm, How nice Lets see my calculations may be of just a bit but the liter of water takes somewhere around 300Kw hrs of electric energy to split the water into Hydrogen and oxygen at 100% conversion, then put this into any heat engine and reassemble getting back 100 Kw hrs of mechanical

Re: [Biofuel] PLEASE READ - Re: Sweet catalyst continuous processes

2006-05-08 Thread Appal Energy
Sorry Jesse. I put off a response to you and then got swamped. So I guess I'm operating the same as the petro companies at the moment relative to their inventories - last in, first out. I'd rather move on. But to answer your post? No anger here. At best it's disappointment in the low calibre