Re: [Biofuel] VW Passat TDi

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
From my experience it's probably caused by a slightly incomplete reaction or a bad wash. YMMV Andres Secco wrote: Right. I saw it transparent also like gelatine. Potato protein or animal protein, Animal is white. Depends on what was fried with the raw oil. Is it clogged with a

Re: [Biofuel] VW Passat TDi

2007-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Could it be polymerized fuel? BD, especially that made from soy oil doesn't store well (4 - 6 months?). I've read/heard that polymerized fuel can clog filters. This may be a problem for commercial producers in the US. Homebrewers shouldn't have much trouble using their BD within a few

[Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread shawn patrick
Good Day All, My question is in regards to the Quality test develop by Jan Warnqvist. Is this test to be performed on the product before or after the glycerin has been removed, or does it matter. I performed the test with out removing glycerin and found that I got a clear bright phase except you

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Shawn. You were looking at all methanol soluble components including the glycerine which is rather soluble in methanol. Separate the glycerine next time. Best regards Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: shawn patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel Mailing List

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Shawn, I suspect that the dense substance at the bottom of the flask was unreacted glycerides, indicating an incomplete reaction. I now drain a sample of the mix towards the end of processing. - Shut off the pump - Drain a sample and turn the pump back on -

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
FWIW - I let the batch settle for a week or so (the lazy man's way) and that also seems to help w/ this. Thomas Kelly wrote: Shawn, I suspect that the dense substance at the bottom of the flask was unreacted glycerides, indicating an incomplete reaction. I now drain a sample of

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Shawn, I see that Jan W replied to your post. I hope I didn't confuse things with my earlier post Do as he advises. Tom - Original Message - From: shawn patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel Mailing List

Re: [Biofuel] Pepsi Forced to Admit It's Bottling Tap Water

2007-08-07 Thread Joe Street
LOL LOL but the best one is Evian water. Evian is NAIVE spelled backwards!! Perfect. (said it here b4) BTW here are some locals who are not just emailing web forums on this issue. Take action. It is amazing how fast theis group mobilized and how much effect they are having.

Re: [Biofuel] Pepsi Forced to Admit It's Bottling Tap Water

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
The little island in Maine my family hails from did that as a joke - they have a large fresh water pond and bottled and sold the water in the one store. Made a pretty penny. Of course, the water does taste good, but it's the same stuff that comes out of the tap in the houses. -Mike Joe

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Mike, I let mine settle for a week when I can. It washes much easier. I doubt that it does anything for an incomplete reaction though. That is to say, I don't think the unreacted oil will settle out. But: I have been wondering about something. When I started making BD it would

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Joe Street
Hey Tom; Take a sample from your fuel after settling 6-8 hrs and set it asside in a mason jar for the longer period and see what settles out. Rod believes that glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction. I believe he is right. And yes it only takes a little glycerin to

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Mike Weaver
Well, I'm not really a greybeard, but since I've been settling both the crack and the wash I haven't seen any white gunk in the clear filter. -M Thomas Kelly wrote: Mike, I let mine settle for a week when I can. It washes much easier. I doubt that it does anything for an incomplete

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Do you let the wash settle longer too? When I'm not in a rush I let it settle for 12 - 24 hrs between washings. After the last wash letting it settle for a couple of days makes drying a snap cubies in the sun. I'm not sure what you mean by white gunk in the clear filter, but maybe you're

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
Hi Joe, glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction. I wonder why Interesting experiment. I make two grades of BD Good: passes quality test; used for car Not so good: fails QT used for boiler (heat) I could take a separate sample from each

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Joe Street
Thomas Kelly wrote: Hi Joe, glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction. I wonder why Well I'm no chemist but my guess would be that the large Mono and Di and triglyceride molecules that are left are jammed in between the ester molecules and the glycerine has to jostle

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel Quality Test

2007-08-07 Thread Thomas Kelly
To the suggestion: glycerin settles slower in a poorly completed reaction. Tom: I wonder why To which Joe Street replied: Well I'm no chemist but my guess would be that the large Mono and Di and triglyceride molecules that are left are jammed in between the ester molecules and the