Parallel Products was Re: [biofuel] Container Plants

2001-05-16 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess you just have to have made your own mash, discovered some of that wild Belgian Abbey yeast that yields banana esters or created your own Cinnamon Pumpkin Ale a time or two to understand. Todd Appal Energy [EMAIL

[biofuel] Re: Misinformation and Scare Tactics

2001-05-18 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip For a peanut farmer Jimmy did pretty good and is still a good man . Jimmy is a great man, but you know the whole peanut farmer thing, although true, has always been a PR thing to make him appeal to the common man.

[biofuel] Re: magnetic savings / alky + dyno / hard water / snipping

2001-05-22 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dick Carlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *good post warren !! this magnet thing either works, or else is just more urban legend. both ways, it shouldn't be hard to check out, like checking out novak's baby was easy. I'd guess urban legend, because I can't see

[biofuel] Re: Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union

2001-05-22 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm... wasn't it Congress, and not GW, that turned down Kyoto? technically yes, congress has yet to ratify Kyoto. But Dubyah has publicly come out against it which means that it is pretty much now dead, rather than merely

[biofuel] Re: Climate Change Debate at the Oxford Union

2001-05-22 Thread physkid
You're preachin' to the choir Steve. I just had an extended e-mail debate with a buddy of mine last week about how Clinton was just window dressing. He seams to think Clinton was better than Bush, I say that although he put up a front, he didn't DO anything, which made him tacitly just the

[biofuel] B100 schools switch

2001-05-23 Thread physkid
Thank you Kieth, I will definately update with progress. I have some pretty damn good connections here, my father is the current President of the School Board and a district employee for 35 years before he retired, so I have high hopes. -andrew --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL

[biofuel] Re: Alcohol as an antifreeze?

2001-05-23 Thread physkid
Fishmann, Keith, et all Lower freezing point, yes, but also lower boiling point and heat of vaporization. Maybe better than water in the winter but probably worse as an actual engine coolant. I'm a little out of my expertease here though so someone please correct me if I'm wrong. -andrew

[biofuel] Re: simple still Web site?

2001-05-24 Thread physkid
Marc, and anyone else intereted in easy stills, the Stillmaker site is very nice looking, and has some good advice and general info. However, the still has at least one major design flaw. Do NOT put the second cooling line through the bottom of the tower. It's a total waste of time and energy

[biofuel] Re: Digest Number 459

2001-05-24 Thread physkid
Good afternoon Kirk, A few commments: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The major source of influence is the output of the sun. if you mean that the only source of input energy to the earth is the sun, then yes, I agree. But if you're somehow trying to rule out the

[biofuel] Re: A Pollution-Free Car in Every Garage

2001-07-13 Thread physkid
Been awhile since I've contributed my two cents, new job, new home, not much time for net access until now. Hello to all. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unlimited hydro-electric..or wind, geothermal, nuclear, tidal, PV, biodiesel-genset-H tank,

[biofuel] Re: Energy Department Lab Develops Cleaner Fuel

2001-08-29 Thread physkid
The article mentions at the end that the two researchers have obtained a provisional patent. Working at a national lab myself, I'm wondering how the details of their work can be kept out of the public view. Perhpas it's just a matter of time for them to share, but the patent is surely owed by

[biofuel] Re: Fw: The Unspoken Resolve

2001-10-02 Thread physkid
Spoken like a true military man. If I may paraphrase the forwarded piece: sit down, shut up, don't think, and do as you're told. I prefer to discuss, analyize, argue, ask tough questions, and demand transparency in all that my government does. Perhaps I was mistaken, but isn't this exactly

[biofuel] Re: Damn

2001-01-31 Thread physkid
Keith- hadn't chimed in yet on the whole Yahoo transition. My conversion was painful, but i did not encounter any real gliches. I was extremely annoyed by the invasions of privacy required by yahoo's sign up pages, but since I always give those marketing leeches false info it was merely an

[biofuel] Re: Enviros Suck

2001-01-31 Thread physkid
This poor person, please be kind to them, I imagine they are a victim of the yahoo transition and have suddenly been swamped with our e- mails without ever having subscribed to the group, or to any group judging by their unfamiliarity with how to opt out electronically. Once more: To

[biofuel] Re: Fw: PRO/AH/EDR BSE Update (03) Jan 2001

2001-02-01 Thread physkid
It is beyond my comprehension, that when something is prohibited from domestic use (the UK), as it is felt to be hazardous/infectious, that it would be allowed to be exported. Here, here, but this is far from new. Look at the state of pesticides for example. Stuff proven to be carcinigenic,

[biofuel] Re: pesticides and GM crops

2001-02-01 Thread physkid
Many of the new Frankenfood Genetically Engineered crops (GMOs) being produced by companies like Monsanto have their own built-in pesticides, as well as immunity to the corporations' weedkillers, leading to claims the new seeds will cut toxic pesticide use on farms. Yes, as I

[biofuel] Re: gasahol

2001-02-01 Thread physkid
Lots of good info in the links and files from Journey to Forever. One major point to keep in mind if you're mixing this yourself is that you NEED to have anhydrous ethanol to mix with the gas. Otherwise, as I understand it, the alcohol and water separate from your gas and sit at the bottom of

[biofuel] Re: stills and such

2001-02-07 Thread physkid
Gaw, What was your problem with the pot scrubbers? I only have experience on smaller stills for human consumtion of ETOH, but the main ingredient for good refluxing (and hence good product) is maximising the vapor liguid contact in your column. I.E. overall height, surface area of the

[biofuel] Re: Ford sees dawn of pollution-free hydrogen cars

2001-02-09 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hohoho How was the hydrogen produced? From petrofuels, that's how! Using 130% of the energy to produce, plus another 30% to compress, Yes, you're right, we've talked about this before, but... that makes it 160% more polluting.

[biofuel] Re: Natural gas, hybrid models top 'green car' report

2001-02-10 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Jerry for agreeing with the hydrogen energy balance - now let's see whether I can talk him the same way regarding electric vehicles. Where does the electricity come from? It is again a secondary energy source

[biofuel] Re: EVs

2001-02-13 Thread physkid
Been gone all weekend, this has been quite a hot topic. Anton makes a very good point and I will attempt to add my two cents without bile. I am new to bio-fuels and relatively new to alternative energy analyses, I have really been enjoying the discussions on this list and want to thank all

[biofuel] Re: EVs

2001-02-13 Thread physkid
Hello Keith, not to beat a dead horse (although making bioD out of it sounds good!) but bad math is a pet peeve of mine. The following is clipped from one of Terry's recent posts: Take a coal burning electricity generating station. It works at 35% efficiency, so that's 65% of your prime

[biofuel] Re: Tables

2001-02-15 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy G Cimini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to both you Terry- his seems a little more digestable. Have slwly read through some of the gov/ doc.. Seem to be just what I want, if I can wade deep enough through it without a Dr. in Phy/Cem. Have seen alot of

[biofuel] Re: Alternative Method of Methanol Production

2001-02-23 Thread physkid
I took a look around the site. After reading through the info, the site itself comes to the following conclusions: Obert and Dave have shown that it is possible to encapsulate a synthetic biochemical pathway and have it function to synthesize methanol. They have shown that methanol can be

[biofuel] RE; global warming

2001-03-06 Thread physkid
Slowly catching up on the number of posts at the end of last week and over the weekend. I don't know whether anyone has responded to this or not yet, but I couldn't wait to read further, I had to respond now. I am usually not rude, and I will attempt to keep myself in check, but...are you

[biofuel] Re: RE; global warming

2001-03-06 Thread physkid
I have now read through the threads as I should have originally, and I humbly ask for forgiveness for my earlier message. I had a rough weekend and I apologize for my tone. Warren, skepticism is good, but I think perhaps your image of how scientific concensus is reached may be a little

[biofuel] Re: IT

2001-03-09 Thread physkid
Not to crush anyone's buzz, but from what I've seen, this it/ginger thing is all hype. Inside.com which has been the biggest purveyor of info on this thing did not even interview the inventor for this latest round of speculation. If you're interested, check out this article I found today from

[biofuel] Re: Snip (computer question)

2001-03-09 Thread physkid
Thanks Keith, I guess I shouldn't have hit the send on that one, since it seems I figured it out on my own by the time I got to the end of my musings :-) Just to clarify, I was aware of the standard usage of the word snip in other contexts, I was just curious if it was some nice easy to use

[biofuel] Re: Biofuels library access

2001-03-10 Thread physkid
Keith- Awesome! I'm sure we'll all benefit from the added material access. Your interpretation seems to jibe with my experience. For example, regarding mulitple copies for a classroom I remember that some publishers got mad at Universities for offering photocopied packets of reading materials

[biofuel] Re: EV pollution from coal power plants

2001-03-14 Thread physkid
Troy (if you're still here), Jerry and all, --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Troy Heagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple: Get Acrobat Reader. Some people don't have as refined computer skills as others, some don't have as refined communication skills. This shows that conversion in the U.S. to

[biofuel] Re: Okay!!! This son of a bitch is rabid!!!

2001-03-14 Thread physkid
You go Todd! Great response, and thank you for sharing. Your eloquence and measured replies to personal attacks are to be commended (I know you had a couple choice phrases that put a grin on my face). -Andrew Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~ Make good

[biofuel] RE:objectivity was EV's and coal

2001-03-15 Thread physkid
Hi, Keith Of course, it's from an EV'ers perspective, but show me a piece of human writting in the history of the earth which is truely objective and I'll eat my shoe. You're exaggerating. Disinterested reporting by a perceptive and questioning observer is what the media is supposed to

[biofuel] Re: Sludge-To-Oil Reactor System (STORS) process

2001-03-16 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know how this thing works? What sort of bio-fuel does it produce? Keith Addison Keith, the below is from their website: http://www.thermoenergy.com/munistors.htm , only slightly more info. Since it's designed for

[biofuel] Re: criminals, brown's bomb, hydrogen fusion, and ph measurements ...(#339)

2001-03-22 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dick Carlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my concern as well. If the power to split the water into H2 an O2 is provided by the motor, how exactly do you win out when you burn the H2 in the motor? Is there more complete

[biofuel] Re: misters and such...#340

2001-03-23 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dick Carlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't rule anything out, andrew !! else you couldn't explain superconductivity at high (relative) temps... Too true, you have a point. But, don't forget Achom's (sp?) Razor. The simplist explanation that is consistant with

[biofuel] Re: Novak's Baby - missing link

2001-03-23 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still can't find those links to Novak's mister. Andrew- Try this: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me3.ht ml it's a long link so you may have to paste it back together in your browser window. -Andrew ;-)

[biofuel] Re: ENERGIES... week of 3/18/01

2001-03-27 Thread physkid
Ok, I'm confused, who's on which side of the pond, and which one of us is more voracious? -yankee andrew (I guess that puts me on the left side of the little pond, but the right side of the big one that Keith and the Oz folks share with me) --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Teal [EMAIL

[biofuel] Re: Spirit hydromter in UK

2001-04-07 Thread physkid
I guess you could try this, but it seams to me you'd have a helluva time getting anything close to an acurate reading. Most homebrew shops here in the US either have, or can order you, a spirit hydrometer for about $10. They not only have a scale that reads percent alcohol, but are a little

[biofuel] Re: Dead Zone

2001-04-19 Thread physkid
I've mostly stayed out of this after my first post on the topic in response to Tim, but I felt the need to throw in a couple of my pennies on some of the comments below. My thoughts aren't directed at anyone inparticular, just musings on the topics at hand. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

[biofuel] Re: Digest Number 372

2001-04-19 Thread physkid
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: finally figured it, dude has an automatic response that annoys me so much, and before now was just lurking. One of the reasons I check this list from the web is to avoid such problems, like annoying you skaar ;-) yeah, but seriously, its a

[biofuel] Re: Vehicles

2001-04-20 Thread physkid
Ed- Sorry no one with more experience has answered this for you yet, I've noticed you've posted this a number of times without response. I am by no means experienced on this topic, but from what I've gleaned from discussions here and numerous links from Keith's and Steve's sites, the problem