--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess you just have to have made your own mash, discovered some of
that wild Belgian Abbey yeast that yields banana esters or created
your own Cinnamon Pumpkin Ale a time or two to understand.
Todd
Appal Energy
[EMAIL
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
For a peanut farmer Jimmy
did pretty good and is still a good man .
Jimmy is a great man, but you know the whole peanut farmer thing,
although true, has always been a PR thing to make him appeal to the
common man.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dick Carlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*good post warren !! this magnet thing either works, or else is
just more
urban legend. both ways, it shouldn't be hard to check out, like
checking
out novak's baby was easy.
I'd guess urban legend, because I can't see
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hmm... wasn't it Congress, and not GW, that turned down Kyoto?
technically yes, congress has yet to ratify Kyoto. But Dubyah has
publicly come out against it which means that it is pretty much now
dead, rather than merely
You're preachin' to the choir Steve. I just had an extended
e-mail debate with a buddy of mine last week about how Clinton was
just window dressing. He seams to think Clinton was better than Bush,
I say that although he put up a front, he didn't DO anything, which
made him tacitly just the
Thank you Kieth, I will definately update with progress. I have some
pretty damn good connections here, my father is the current President
of the School Board and a district employee for 35 years before he
retired, so I have high hopes.
-andrew
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL
Fishmann, Keith, et all
Lower freezing point, yes, but also lower boiling point and heat of
vaporization. Maybe better than water in the winter but probably worse
as an actual engine coolant. I'm a little out of my expertease here
though so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
-andrew
Marc, and anyone else intereted in easy stills,
the Stillmaker site is very nice looking, and has some good advice and
general info. However, the still has at least one major design flaw.
Do NOT put the second cooling line through the bottom of the tower.
It's a total waste of time and energy
Good afternoon Kirk,
A few commments:
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The major source of influence is the output of the sun.
if you mean that the only source of input energy to the earth is the
sun, then yes, I agree. But if you're somehow trying to rule out the
Been awhile since I've contributed my two cents, new job, new home,
not much time for net access until now. Hello to all.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
unlimited hydro-electric..or wind, geothermal, nuclear, tidal, PV,
biodiesel-genset-H tank,
The article mentions at the end that the two researchers have
obtained a provisional patent. Working at a national lab myself, I'm
wondering how the details of their work can be kept out of the public
view. Perhpas it's just a matter of time for them to share, but the
patent is surely owed by
Spoken like a true military man. If I may paraphrase the forwarded
piece: sit down, shut up, don't think, and do as you're told. I
prefer to discuss, analyize, argue, ask tough questions, and demand
transparency in all that my government does. Perhaps I was mistaken,
but isn't this exactly
Keith-
hadn't chimed in yet on the whole Yahoo transition. My conversion
was painful, but i did not encounter any real gliches. I was
extremely annoyed by the invasions of privacy required by yahoo's
sign up pages, but since I always give those marketing leeches false
info it was merely an
This poor person, please be kind to them, I imagine they are a victim
of the yahoo transition and have suddenly been swamped with our e-
mails without ever having subscribed to the group, or to any group
judging by their unfamiliarity with how to opt out electronically.
Once more:
To
It is beyond my comprehension, that when something is prohibited
from domestic use (the UK), as it is felt to be
hazardous/infectious, that it would be allowed to be exported.
Here, here, but this is far from new. Look at the state of pesticides
for example. Stuff proven to be carcinigenic,
Many of the new Frankenfood Genetically Engineered crops (GMOs)
being produced by companies like Monsanto have their own built-in
pesticides, as well as immunity to the corporations' weedkillers,
leading to claims the new seeds will cut toxic pesticide use on
farms.
Yes, as I
Lots of good info in the links and files from Journey to Forever. One
major point to keep in mind if you're mixing this yourself is that
you NEED to have anhydrous ethanol to mix with the gas. Otherwise, as
I understand it, the alcohol and water separate from your gas and sit
at the bottom of
Gaw,
What was your problem with the pot scrubbers? I only have experience
on smaller stills for human consumtion of ETOH, but the main
ingredient for good refluxing (and hence good product) is maximising
the vapor liguid contact in your column. I.E. overall height, surface
area of the
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hohoho
How was the hydrogen produced?
From petrofuels, that's how!
Using 130% of the energy to produce, plus another 30% to compress,
Yes, you're right, we've talked about this before, but...
that makes it 160% more polluting.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks to Jerry for agreeing with the hydrogen energy balance - now
let's see whether I can talk him the same way regarding electric
vehicles.
Where does the electricity come from? It is again a secondary
energy source
Been gone all weekend, this has been quite a hot topic. Anton makes
a very good point and I will attempt to add my two cents
without bile.
I am new to bio-fuels and relatively new to alternative energy
analyses, I have really been enjoying the discussions on this list
and want to thank all
Hello Keith, not to beat a dead horse (although making bioD out of it
sounds good!) but bad math is a pet peeve of mine. The following is
clipped from one of Terry's recent posts:
Take a coal burning electricity generating station. It works at 35%
efficiency, so that's 65% of your prime
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy G Cimini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks to both you Terry- his seems a little more digestable. Have
slwly read through some of the gov/ doc.. Seem to be just what I
want, if I can wade deep enough through it without a Dr. in
Phy/Cem. Have
seen alot of
I took a look around the site. After reading through the info, the
site itself comes to the following conclusions:
Obert and Dave have shown that it is possible to encapsulate a
synthetic biochemical pathway and have it function to synthesize
methanol. They have shown that methanol can be
Slowly catching up on the number of posts at the end of last week and
over the weekend. I don't know whether anyone has responded to this
or not yet, but I couldn't wait to read further, I had to respond now.
I am usually not rude, and I will attempt to keep myself in check,
but...are you
I have now read through the threads as I should have originally, and
I humbly ask for forgiveness for my earlier message. I had a rough
weekend and I apologize for my tone.
Warren, skepticism is good, but I think perhaps your image of how
scientific concensus is reached may be a little
Not to crush anyone's buzz, but from what I've seen, this it/ginger
thing is all hype. Inside.com which has been the biggest purveyor of
info on this thing did not even interview the inventor for this
latest round of speculation. If you're interested, check out this
article I found today from
Thanks Keith,
I guess I shouldn't have hit the send on that one, since it seems I
figured it out on my own by the time I got to the end of my musings
:-)
Just to clarify, I was aware of the standard usage of the word snip
in other contexts, I was just curious if it was some nice easy to use
Keith-
Awesome! I'm sure we'll all benefit from the added material access.
Your interpretation seems to jibe with my experience. For example,
regarding mulitple copies for a classroom I remember that some
publishers got mad at Universities for offering photocopied packets
of reading materials
Troy (if you're still here), Jerry and all,
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Troy Heagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simple: Get Acrobat Reader.
Some people don't have as refined computer skills as others, some
don't have as refined communication skills.
This shows that conversion in the U.S. to
You go Todd! Great response, and thank you for sharing. Your
eloquence and measured replies to personal attacks are to be
commended (I know you had a couple choice phrases that put a grin on
my face).
-Andrew
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-~
Make good
Hi, Keith
Of course, it's from an EV'ers perspective, but show me a piece of
human writting in the history of the earth which is
truely objective and I'll eat my shoe.
You're exaggerating. Disinterested reporting by a perceptive and
questioning observer is what the media is supposed to
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone know how this thing works? What sort of bio-fuel does it
produce?
Keith Addison
Keith,
the below is from their website:
http://www.thermoenergy.com/munistors.htm , only slightly more info.
Since it's designed for
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dick Carlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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This is my concern as well. If the power to split the water into
H2 an O2 is provided by the motor, how exactly do you win out
when you burn the H2 in the motor? Is there more complete
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dick Carlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
don't rule anything out, andrew !! else you couldn't explain
superconductivity at high (relative) temps...
Too true, you have a point. But, don't forget Achom's (sp?) Razor.
The simplist explanation that is consistant with
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Still can't find those links to Novak's mister.
Andrew-
Try this:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me3.ht
ml
it's a long link so you may have to paste it back together in your
browser window.
-Andrew ;-)
Ok, I'm confused, who's on which side of the pond, and which one of
us is more voracious?
-yankee andrew (I guess that puts me on the left side of the little
pond, but the right side of the big one that Keith and the Oz folks
share with me)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Teal [EMAIL
I guess you could try this, but it seams to me you'd have a helluva
time getting anything close to an acurate reading. Most homebrew
shops here in the US either have, or can order you, a spirit
hydrometer for about $10. They not only have a scale that reads
percent alcohol, but are a little
I've mostly stayed out of this after my first post on the topic in
response to Tim, but I felt the need to throw in a couple of my
pennies on some of the comments below. My thoughts aren't directed at
anyone inparticular, just musings on the topics at hand.
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
finally figured it, dude has an automatic response that annoys me so
much, and before now was just lurking.
One of the reasons I check this list from the web is to avoid such
problems, like annoying you skaar ;-)
yeah, but seriously, its a
Ed-
Sorry no one with more experience has answered this for you yet, I've
noticed you've posted this a number of times without response. I am
by no means experienced on this topic, but from what I've gleaned
from discussions here and numerous links from Keith's and Steve's
sites, the problem
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