Re: [biofuel] Syntroleum

2004-06-04 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:27:07 -0400, you wrote: Has anyone seen this sight or know this product? http://www.syntroleum.com/ Opinion? -Arthur Their product is fossil-fuel based. I like the idea of Gas-To-Liquids (GTL) as far as it goes, but it's still, in the end, same-old, same-old fossil

[biofuel] GERMANY: Europeans' car preferences reduce fuel price shock

2004-06-03 Thread murdoch
http://www.just-auto.com/news_detail.asp?art=44608 Very good article, I thought, bringing to our attention not only Europeans' differing reactions to fuel price hikes, but also related debatable issues, such as whether Hybrids or Hydrogen will really fly in Europe. GERMANY: Europeans' car

[biofuel] Video or Sound File of a Biofuel Making Class

2004-06-03 Thread murdoch
. It might be easier to record video and then separate out the sound file and a few low-res still photos. As far as what Murdoch says about it potentially causing a drop in attendance at my workshops, I don't think that's a concern at all (and it would be fine if it did anyway, I'm not doing

[biofuel] authority complexes

2004-06-03 Thread murdoch
Hakan: I have also been accused of having an authority complex in fighting mainstream opinion and policies. A good thing to be accused of, perhaps. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with

Re: [biofuel] Re: Oil and Israel - Hakan

2004-06-03 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:19:58 +0200, you wrote: Matt, Please, At 01:49 03/06/2004, you wrote: I am glad to hear that you are not full of hate (you could not be all bad... you are into biodiesel!). My thing is http://energysavingnow.com/ and why I got caught in biofuels, was very much by

Re: Re[2]: [biofuel] Re: Oil and Israel - Keith

2004-06-03 Thread murdoch
understanding was (perhaps no longer) that invocation of the Protocols is generally accepted to be just nonsense and that it should be met with disdain as signalling inherently racist nonsense. I think I failed to examine this assumption. [...] Murdoch this was not something personal to you but general

Re: [biofuel] Re: Oil and Israel - Keith

2004-06-03 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 15:05:55 -0500, you wrote: Murdoch, What I mean is that generally you seem glad to have the topic raised, and that generally some of Luc's comments points seem to be agreed-with, by yourself and-or by Todd. That's incorrect. What I did state and should have been inferred

[biofuel] Interesting Bio-Energy LLC type investment-Business Model

2004-06-02 Thread murdoch
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[biofuel] Re: Whence The Fuel For The Indy 500, NASCAR, Etc?

2004-06-02 Thread murdoch
PROTECTED], murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Race cars could also run on biodiesel or on Vegetable Oil (Fatty Mehtyl Esthers or Trigliceryides? dunno the chemistry). Biodiesel has a much higher net energy ratio than ethanol. But I agree completely on E85 and ethanol. As to changing

[biofuel] H2 MJ/kg

2004-06-02 Thread murdoch
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/chem99/chem99525.htm Hello I Have an hydrogen question Can you please tell me about the energy density, in terms of the energy available per gram or litre. Burning one mole, 2.015 g, of hydrogen in air releases 57.796 kilocalories. Richard

Re: [biofuel] Re: Oil and Israel - Keith

2004-06-02 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 19:49:39 +0900, you wrote: Hello Arthur You lose! I suppose it's no big surprise that a thread such as this should hit Godwin's Law, but it sure didn't take you long. [...] Whether you agree with it or not, Luc provided some analysis and some references and links, which

Re: [biofuel] Re: Oil and Israel - Keith

2004-06-02 Thread murdoch
I've no choice but to work with the two quotes you've provided, one of them from me, in which I did not as you allege praise Luc mightily nor even unmightily for anything, nor have I yet expressed any opinion on the substance of any of his posts. I haven't noticed anyone praising Luc for

Re: [biofuel] Re: [evworld] Whence The Fuel For The Indy 500, NASCAR, Etc?

2004-06-01 Thread murdoch
numbers for DME, Vegetable Oil, Hythane. MM On Mon, 31 May 2004 16:59:48 -0500, you wrote: murdoch wrote: Both Methanol and Ethanol are somewhere around 70 or 80% energy density of gasoline. Close enough, I think. Battery electric fuel is not as energy dense as any of these liquid fuel, though I

[biofuel] Bush's Biodiesel Mower

2004-06-01 Thread murdoch
Exerpt from this week's evworld.com: Bush's Biodiesel Mower Just so I don't come off seeming too mean spirited, there is this piece of good news out of Crawford. I don't know if the President played much of a role in the decision to buy a new diesel mower for his Texas home, but according to a

Re: [biofuel] Re: Oil and Israel - Keith

2004-06-01 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 11:37:11 +0200, you wrote: Arthur, I am puzzled, have looked through the thread and have large difficulties to find any I hate the Jews in it. I find some interesting ideological and theological facts in it, but expressed in a respectful and objective way. I find no

[biofuel] Whence The Fuel For The Indy 500, NASCAR, Etc?

2004-05-31 Thread murdoch
As we watch today's famous Indy 500 race, I had cause to revisit a question I've had many years, which is to get straight where the fuel comes from. Last I checked, Indy 500 cars were using Methanol, though over recent years there has been some upheaval in Indy Technology. In Nascar, I believe

[biofuel] Re: [evworld] Whence The Fuel For The Indy 500, NASCAR, Etc?

2004-05-31 Thread murdoch
on the side of the car say, Runs on cow S**t. :) Sometimes my mind wanders a little too far. :) Dave Goldstein wrote: On Sun, 30 May 2004 18:36:07 -0700 murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As we watch today's famous Indy 500 race, I had cause to revisit a question I've had many years, which

[biofuel] Cooking Outside, Energy Use, and the Human Enjoyment aspect

2004-05-31 Thread murdoch
Wendell: It took me a little while to understand what you were saying (my fault), but one thing was you were just trying to take into account the energy and resources lost to opening and closing the door. Also you have emphasized that we not forget the human enjoyment element, something I think

[biofuel] Sulfur Shuts 500 Shell, Texaco Stations

2004-05-29 Thread murdoch
Some lessons here for how a Big Oil Business reacts to inadvertent dissemination of a 'bad batch'? I don't know what the lesson is, only that I'm reading what's happening. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=509ncid=718e=8u=/ap/20040529/ap_on_bi_ge/sulfur_in_gas By ALAN SAYRE, AP

[biofuel] High Fuel Costs Put Focus on Renewable Energy

2004-05-28 Thread murdoch
I knew there was a reason we kept Sen. Byrd around. I like the last paragraph: We have unnecessarily endeavored to treat the symptoms and not the core problem for far too long, said Senator Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) in a speech to the Senate last week. A serious energy efficiency program,

Re: [biofuel] Oil and Israel

2004-05-27 Thread murdoch
Prince Turki al-Faisal, ambassador to Britain and Ireland, told the Irish Independent newspaper Washington's stated aims in going to war in Iraq masked a more cynical reality. No matter how exalted the aims of the U.S. in that war, in the final analysis it was a colonial war very similar to

[biofuel] Biomass Could Reduce CO2 Emissions, Report Says

2004-05-27 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=585e=2u=/nm/20040527/sc_nm/environment_biomass_dc Science - Reuters Biomass Could Reduce CO2 Emissions, Report Says 1 hour, 53 minutes ago Add Science - Reuters to My Yahoo! BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Using biomass, a type of fuel made of

[biofuel] (fwd) Mercury News, Gas Price Editorial

2004-05-26 Thread murdoch
One person's (not mine) point of view. Forwarded for general discussion purposes. MM */Dear/ Gas Tax Supporters, Today the San Jose Mercury News published the below COIL editorial. To see the actual editorial, as it appeared in the Mercury News, go to

Re: [biofuel] location of girl mark workshops

2004-05-25 Thread murdoch
TECHNOLOGIES 10505 NE 285TH Street Battle Ground, WA 98604 360-666-1883 voice [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: murdoch To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 2:03 PM Subject: [biofuel] location of girl mark workshops On Mon

[biofuel] outdoor cooking to save on indoor cooling costs, and for other reasons

2004-05-25 Thread murdoch
Blessings, Kim At 01:19 AM 5/25/2004, you wrote: Dear Murdoch, It seems to me that it is better to cook where you find the most ease or joy. It occurs to me that if the outside temperature is 90 F and the inside is 76 F, it would not take very many trips to add enough heat and moisture

[biofuel] great history channel spot on the tzero

2004-05-24 Thread murdoch
The show is From Tactical To Practical. This particular show, they were examining all sorts of hybrids and alt-fuel vehicles. After the Prius-Insight hybrid segment, they did a segment on the tzero, where they had it do a 1/4 mile drag against a 500 hp Dodge Viper. The tzero won. At the end,

Re: [biofuel] great history channel spot on the tzero

2004-05-24 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 24 May 2004 12:21:58 -0400, you wrote: murdoch wrote: The show is From Tactical To Practical. This particular show, they were examining all sorts of hybrids and alt-fuel vehicles. After the Prius-Insight hybrid segment, they did a segment on the tzero, where they had it do a 1/4

Re: [biofuel] Saudi Oil Is Secure and Plentiful, Say Officials

2004-05-24 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 24 May 2004 04:17:30 +0900, you wrote: Hi Hoagy Anyone see this? No but thank you Keith and speaking of real men and what they have to say I thought this excerpt from the article pasted below would be of possible future interest -- Finally, we learn from Bob Woodward that, as

[biofuel] location of girl mark workshops

2004-05-24 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 24 May 2004 19:37:55 -, you wrote: Curious where Girl Mark does these workshops? Is it in Calfifornia someplace. Would love to attend one. Is there any upcoming classes and where? tj

Re: [biofuel] Real Men Reduce Oil Demand

2004-05-23 Thread murdoch
On Sun, 23 May 2004 07:30:03 +0900, you wrote: Real Men Reduce Oil Demand New York Times Editorial Board May 19, 2004 By focusing on the supply-side role of OPEC, the candidates are confusing the issue about oil and gas prices. The answer lies in transforming our economy to be more energy

Re: [biofuel] Ratifying the Kyoto Protocol

2004-05-23 Thread murdoch
I pay little or no attention to Kyoto and haven't for some time. I believe that if Global Warming really is a threat to be taken seriously, and I think it is, that it will take virtually all people on Earth to engage in climate pre-remediating energy consideration (for want of better words) that

Re: [biofuel] It has happened twice now.

2004-05-23 Thread murdoch
I just had this conversation with Girl Mark yesterday at her excellent class. She had some 90% (not 100%) KOH and gave a very general guideline that if it were 100%, we'd start with something like 4.9 to 6 g for our calculations, and then add whatever we'd calculated from our Titration process

[biofuel] When driving is a living, gas prices hit even harder

2004-05-23 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=677e=1u=/usatoday/20040521/bs_usatoday/whendrivingisalivinggaspriceshitevenharder When driving is a living, gas prices hit even harder Fri May 21, 6:25 AM ET Add Business - USATODAY.com to My Yahoo! By Chris Woodyard and Gary Stoller, USA

Re: [biofuel] waste to energy on an industrial scale

2004-05-23 Thread murdoch
you may see some German media footage of the plant operating on our website www.untechservices.com/products I was unable to get your link to work. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with

Re: [biofuel] Re: Soy vs. RME comment

2004-05-23 Thread murdoch
In addition to what you've written (it's mostly over my head, but interesting) Not over your head, and since you've been learning biodiesel you should know this too, it's easy. Ok, I liked your explanation as to where some of our exploration is of the Euro and American issues. I think you're

Re: murdoch: Re: [biofuel] Ratifying the Kyoto Protocol

2004-05-23 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 24 May 2004 04:17:50 +0900, you wrote: --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pay little or no attention to Kyoto and haven't for some time. I believe that if Global Warming really is a threat to be taken seriously, and I think it is, that it will take

[biofuel] German Biodiesel

2004-05-21 Thread murdoch
Great link, thanks Jens. I like the discussion of the recent standards. DIN EN 14214. On Fri, 21 May 2004 10:42:50 -, you wrote: This english brochure has lots of useful information about the status of biodiesel in Germany/Europe: http://www.ufop.de/download/FlowerPower.pdf Some

Re: [biofuel] Energy Star Ratings and cars and Trucks?

2004-05-21 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 20 May 2004 13:17:04 -0400, you wrote: It's a good point. I've been investigating Energy Star ratings for buildings. Why not vehicles? On May 20, 2004, at 12:39 PM, murdoch wrote: I am spending some time today researching energy star rated appliances at www.Energystar.gov

[biofuel] European Biofuel Issues

2004-05-20 Thread murdoch
Thanks NTSL and Craig and bwelch. Looks like some comments worth discussing. I'm passing on Craig's comments especially to Keith Addison's biofuels list, which is here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ as there may be some further hashing out of this information there. The more we

[biofuel] Energy Star Ratings and cars and Trucks?

2004-05-20 Thread murdoch
I am spending some time today researching energy star rated appliances at www.Energystar.gov It is quite fun to see the efforts being made or apparently being made by some manufacturers to allow some folks to buy appliances which will assist them in their financial and environmental conservation

[biofuel] (fwd) Saving time at the gas pump with a hybrid

2004-05-20 Thread murdoch
I particularly like this one. We consumers so seldom have anyone make an effort to put a value on our time. And isn't our time important to us? And so much has been made over the years over the issue of lengthy recharge times for EVs. With fast-charging those EV fueling times are coming

[biofuel] Least Costly Cars To Own.... according to one study's methodology

2004-05-20 Thread murdoch
According to this study's methodology, fuel efficiency is important, though obviously not the only factor. The top 5 cars include an assortment of approaches, including the Hybrid Prius, the Non-Hybrid Civic and the VW TDI. http://money.cnn.com/2004/05/18/pf/autos/efficient_cost_to_own/ The

[biofuel] The Vegan Car: Greasel, not diesel...

2004-05-20 Thread murdoch
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/laweekly/20040514/lo_laweekly/53474 Fri May 14, 7:49 PM ET Add Local - Los Angeles Weekly to My Yahoo! By Joshuah Bearman LA Weekly Writer A sticker on the blue Dodge read: ask me about veggie power. The truck belonged to Joel Wolf, a rancher,

[biofuel] crossposting?

2004-05-20 Thread murdoch
CAFE standards worse now than 15 years ago, etc etc etc. It would be hard to find a better case for illustrating that all the wrong people are calling all the wrong tunes for all the wrong reasons. The more we all use the net to stay in touch with each other, the more transparent we can make

[biofuel] Diesel VWs: High Mileage Vehicles, Well Kept Secrets?

2004-05-19 Thread murdoch
I have collected four testimonials to high-mileage VW Diesels that came up in discussion. I have seen many such testimonials over the years, but I have been meaning to make a few points in response to them. These came up recently, in response to reports that the two gasoline hybrids have not

Re: [biofuel] Diesel VWs: High Mileage Vehicles, Well Kept Secrets?

2004-05-19 Thread murdoch
Thanks for the info. I wonder if we can push for that certification in the United States, and what it will take, both from the company and the government and others? On Wed, 19 May 2004 20:35:51 +0200, you wrote: MM, You asked about VW, Europe and biodiesel. In Europe the VW diesels are

[biofuel] Oyama, British Columbia: biofuel business to make ethanol and feed cattle?

2004-05-19 Thread murdoch
I am curious for opinions here not as to the likelihood of making money in investment (anyone can see that's extremely unlikely), but as to their particular technological plans and whether there is good or bad in them. I have copied and pasted part of the quarterly starting with a description of

Re: [biofuel] Anyone know of a good list for saving energy in the home?

2004-05-18 Thread murdoch
Thanks, these look like good ideas, and I do think that, with concommittant behaviour modification, the sort of thing that might save me a little on cooling costs. I think that a lot of conservation efforts require a little effort to learn something a new way, and in some (not all) cases they

[biofuel] USDA: Cattle Brains May Be Turned Into Biofuels

2004-05-18 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=585e=3u=/nm/20040517/sc_nm/madcow_waste_dc USDA: Cattle Brains May Be Turned Into Biofuels Mon May 17, 5:36 PM ET Add Science - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Richard Cowan WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Cattle brains and other remains that may carry the

Re: [biofuel] Book: Sunshine To Dollars

2004-05-17 Thread murdoch
I wonder why he doesn't seem to talk about biofuels. I wish some folks would at least half-address that biofuels are arguably a product of harvesting solar energy and using it. He does mention biomass as an area he's into, in discussing his general areas of expertise. On Mon, 17 May 2004

[biofuel] OT: (fwd) Articles on EVs, PHEVs, batteries from LA Weekly special section

2004-05-16 Thread murdoch
http://www.laweekly.com/ MAY 15 - 21, 2004 Three articles from The Auto Show: Green Machines Hijacked by Hybrids Two local manufacturers hope to win back EV enthusiasts by Rick Kennedy The death of the battery-powered car has been proclaimed far and wide. President Bush tried to make it

[biofuel] Re: Marin County Manure Generator

2004-05-15 Thread murdoch
Thanks for posting this Mage. I was going to. I really liked this article. MM On Fri, 14 May 2004 12:29:00 -0600, you wrote: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/05/14/BAGJG6LG3R15.DTL AGRICULTURE 270 cows generating electricity for farm Methane digester also breaks down

[biofuel] Record drought dims hydropower outlook in US Northwest

2004-05-15 Thread murdoch
The thing is: I don't see any discussion groups where we are making some of the connections that should perhaps be made, so I'll take a shot: 1. Is this drought global warming related? If so, does burning more fossil fuel to satisfy the shortfall in hydroelectric power actually in some way

[biofuel] Hybrid Mileage Comes Up Short

2004-05-15 Thread murdoch
In my view, it is long overdue that the EPA should improve its tests to reflect real-world mileage and not their out-of-touch lab work. http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,63413,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_1 Hybrid cars are hot, but not as hot as their owners, who complain that their gas

[biofuel] Ford CEO sees upside to higher U.S. gas prices

2004-05-14 Thread murdoch
Wonder if they'll note that EVs and PHEVs can perhaps get better mileage than any vehicle anywhere. Probably they'll get around to it. And maybe they'll also note the excellent-mileage biodiesel-burning diesel vehicles. Eventually. http://www.forbes.com/newswire/2004/05/13/rtr1370745.html

Re: [biofuel] Catastrophe has hit!

2004-05-13 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 12 May 2004 17:26:29 +0900, you wrote: Steve Spence seems to have solved his problems. - Keith Yes, that seemed sudden, although I don't think we've heard the last of those problems if they involved job loss and medical issues. Not to minimize the sort of odd pendulum swing you seem to

[biofuel] Toyota

2004-05-12 Thread murdoch
Thanks for passing on this anecdote relating the opinion of a person at Toyota. I think it's of some use to try to piece together what some executives at these companies are thinking and seeing. As I think this out, I'm not sure, but I think it may be the first time I've ever seen any executive

[biofuel] I wonder if Biodiesel would work well in these (Claimed) Low-emission High-Efficiency Hybrid Train Locomotives?

2004-05-12 Thread murdoch
http://www.railpower.com/greengoat.php For those curious, their stock symbol on yahoo is p.to, the 'to' standing for the toronto stock exchange. MM Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70

Re: [biofuel] In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community - biofuel advice needed

2004-05-11 Thread murdoch
On Sun, 9 May 2004 15:05:24 -0500, you wrote: In the works: OFF Grid College and Retirement Community A small group of families have gone together to purchase a decommissioned radar base on the thumb of MI. It is being converted into an off-grid college campus and retirement community that

[biofuel] EPA to Finalize Diesel Pollution Rules Tuesday

2004-05-11 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=585e=1u=/nm/20040510/sc_nm/environment_diesel_dc 2 hours, 18 minutes ago Add Science - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Chris Baltimore WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Bush administration will finalize rules on Tuesday to cut air pollution from tractors,

[biofuel] Re: [Appropriate Community] Catastrophe has hit!

2004-05-11 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 10 May 2004 16:21:23 -, you wrote: Steve and Linda need help, please see http://www.green-trust.org for particulars. When you move into a new house, there are a lot of immediate challenges. Although you have a lot of those cool technologies already installed, I'm sure there will be

Re: [biofuel] EPA to Finalize Diesel Pollution Rules Tuesday

2004-05-11 Thread murdoch
. Chris murdoch wrote: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=585e=1u=/nm/20040510/sc_nm/environment_diesel_dc Fuel refiners will be required to produce diesel fuel by 2012 that is 99 percent free of smog-causing nitrogen oxides under the new rules, which the EPA proposed a year ago

Re: [biofuel] Re: smartcar

2004-05-10 Thread murdoch
here. Isn't Smart SUV an oxymoron? I'm thinking that the name of the company says it all when it comes to why they're not selling in the US. No market for such a product here. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 May 2004 17

Re: [biofuel] city density versus per capita travel energy used

2004-05-09 Thread murdoch
My comment: I read Keith Addison's forward to the biofuel list a week or two ago, from the homestead list with what I thought of as a somewhat one-sided predictive view of what will or would happen in a fuel pricing crisis. This person was very focused on using wood in cars, and how society's

[biofuel] Will rising gas prices change our habits?

2004-05-09 Thread murdoch
This one from San Diego County, by an economist apparently, was more in depth than the usual analysis. The author actually pointed out the difficulty of changing vehicles, and that some studies do indicate that the price of gas is playing some role in car-buying habits, even if it is not a

[biofuel] smartcar, mini convertible

2004-05-09 Thread murdoch
In addition to this immediate good buzz over the Smartcar, I want to add that I saw a news blurb on the Mini Convertible the other day that made me want to go out and buy one *immediately*. My reaction was basically: Oh *YEAH*! The blurb (or was it an ad?) showed the MiniCon on a cleared-away

Re: [biofuel] Our new off grid home

2004-05-09 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 10 May 2004 01:09:49 +0900, you wrote: I have exciting news to share. Today we closed on our off grid home in 5 acres of woods. PV, Wind, Rain Water filled Cistern, Veggie Oil powered VW Rabbit generator, wood heat, etc. Paradise! I will be sharing photo's and construction articles as we

[biofuel] city density versus per capita travel energy used

2004-05-08 Thread murdoch
Was cleaning up my hard drive today, and ran across this document. Don't know where I got it, but I found it useful. I posted it as a file here: http://f6.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/QDydQJJxKKBOUr2w8qz2p3UNNIzESJFi-hZ5CIUQGJUP9qg9xwbUX3ObpGJeD0rtb2g2aJN2oILGnPapJjTW/City%20Density%20V%20Travel.doc

Re: [biofuel] smartcar

2004-05-06 Thread murdoch
I've driven a version of this equipped with exotic batteries instead of an engine. One thing is that they're warm batteries. Top speed in that particular version was 75 mph, more-than-peppy acceleration don't quite recall the range. I doubt they'll being making those available any time

[biofuel] Re: smartcar

2004-05-06 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 06 May 2004 11:00:29 -0700, you wrote: I think it's pretty much a sure thing it will be coming to the US next year isn't it? I will believe it when I see it. Not one or two or 2000, but widely readily available, without hassle at a reasonable price? It will, I predict, meet stiff

Re: [biofuel] smartcar

2004-05-06 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 6 May 2004 15:27:50 -0500, you wrote: Ed, I just spoke to a VW sales person a few moments ago while pricing out a rebuilt manual transmission for my '86 Golf. He stated that the Lupo isn't on the horizon for import into the US. Isn't this partly an issue of Ultra-Low-Sulfur Diesel not

Re: [biofuel] sound file: radio show interview: make your own biodiesel

2004-05-06 Thread murdoch
IMO Jeff Rense needs to interview some of the folks in the open-source home-brew biodiesel movement. Keith, are you up for it? Who me? Do you think I have the right orientation? We're mostly into 3rd World village stuff. Ump. Maybe, if he's prepared to fly to Japan in a flying boat. :-) Don't

Re: [biofuel] smartcar

2004-05-06 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 6 May 2004 17:11:34 -0500, you wrote: Murdoch, Isn't this partly an issue of Ultra-Low-Sulfur Diesel not being commonly available here, yet, the way it is in Europe? If the fuel appropriate to how they designed the engine were common, wouldn't they be more inclined to sell

[biofuel] sound file: radio show interview: make your own biodiesel

2004-05-05 Thread murdoch
http://evworld.com/view.cfm?section=articlestoryid=687 You have to click on the Windows Media Player link. I am unable to make the real player link work, though that may be my setup. Once you start listening, there is about 1 minute of worthless music, and then the radio show begins. I'm

[biofuel] USDA Limits Green Payments, Is Accused of Skimping

2004-05-05 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=585e=4u=/nm/20040504/sc_nm/environment_farm_dc Tue May 4,11:26 AM ET Add Science - Reuters to My Yahoo! By Charles Abbott WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. government will choose 3,000 to 5,000 farmers in several river drainage areas to receive

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel business

2004-05-05 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 03 May 2004 15:32:47 -0400, you wrote: Sorry if that last email got sent... Anyway, Hello I'm currently a student (studying business) and I want to make some money with biodiesel. For starteers, I want to convince my school to run their diesel fleet off bio. However, i have absolutly

[biofuel] (fwd) Two Thumbs Down for Climate Change

2004-05-05 Thread murdoch
I didn't know about this movie until I saw this post, so I guess it will be interesting if the movie is well done and has some credibility or not. MM On Wed, 05 May 2004 09:52:39 -0700, Jason Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All: As you may know, on Memorial Day weekend the first Hollywood

[biofuel] Study: Shoppers Deserting Supermarkets

2004-05-03 Thread murdoch
With Apologies to Mr. Dreyfuss for quoting the whole thing, but AP does a poor job through yahoo of archiving articles, and I don't want this to be deleted after a few weeks, which is their wont. Some interesting introductory thinking to how American consumers are presently seeing the motor

Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *#

2004-05-03 Thread murdoch
If you are able to follow through on this, or even if you are not able to do so, and find that it just takes the fire out of you, I for one will be extremely interested to read of your efforts, or of any further info you can pass on to us, about the NYC area. I am acquainted with the guy who

[biofuel] New Mexico Officials to Test Use of Waste Wood to Run Power Plants

2004-05-03 Thread murdoch
http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/6/6/54988966.html ZUNI, N.M., Apr 19, 2004 (Albuquerque Journal - Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News via COMTEX) -- Soaring natural gas and propane prices have stoked a fire under state and private developers who see wood and wood byproducts as an energy

[biofuel] ethanol car fuel from wood waste, larger-scale project in Japan

2004-05-03 Thread murdoch
http://www.co2e.com/News/story.asp?StoryID=1628 01/04/2004: Taisei, Marubeni to Turn Construction Waste Into Car Biofuel: Asia Pulse Pte Ltd TOKYO, April 1 Asia Pulse - Five companies, including general contractor Taisei Corp. (TSE:1801) and trading house Marubeni Corp. (TSE:8002), will

Re: [biofuel] (fwd) (fwd) First day driving the ACPropulsion car

2004-05-02 Thread murdoch
I've spoken with Doug a few times and if I understood his WWII point correctly, I am complete agreement with the basics of it: the U.S. is not behaving as though it is at war, sacrifices are not being asked of its citizens to the extent that would happen in a very serious life and death struggle,

[biofuel] (fwd) First day driving the ACPropulsion car

2004-05-02 Thread murdoch
Thanks for the clarification. Indeed, what you point out is interesting. For example, now that the U.S. is, in a way, more like the Europeans were during WWII, where we have more of an OIl deficit (I think we're still close to being the #1 producer, but our production does not equal even 50% of

[biofuel] Truckers Protest High Diesel Prices, Some Arrested

2004-05-01 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=519ncid=718e=8u=/ap/20040501/ap_on_re_us/trucker_protest Truckers Block L.A. Freeway in Protest 5 minutes ago Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo! By ROBERT JABLON, Associated Press Writer LOS ANGELES - Truckers parked their rigs on a busy

[biofuel] (fwd) (fwd) First day driving the ACPropulsion car

2004-05-01 Thread murdoch
On Sat, 01 May 2004 12:24:45 -0700, Doug Korthof [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is it a time of oil emergency supposedly severe enough to justify environmental waivers and foreign wars? The need for oil is supposedly to keep our economy running, a national security issue. But is it really so?

[biofuel] Energy Use Per Capita, Worldwide and in the U.S.

2004-04-29 Thread murdoch
It has been on my mind to follow up a bit on Paul Scott's open-question/personal project to inquire into per capita energy use, in the U.S. and worldwide. The post that we have from the Homestead list, about one person's predictions for what Americans and other oil-addicted will do when we run

Re: [biofuel] Energy Use Per Capita, Worldwide and in the U.S.

2004-04-29 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:38:00 +0200, you wrote: MM, These are very interesting figures, but to really see the range, it is also very interesting the look at the spread and it is some developing where the US citizens are using 40 to 50 times more per capita. I'm not sure if I understand your

Re: [biofuel] Energy Policy: Supreme Court Hears Cheney Secrecy Case

2004-04-28 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:21:38 +0900, you wrote: Hi MM Very much agree with you, but it would be nice to see the guy getting a legal roasting for it, along with his pals - he's probably not going to get an electoral one, sad to say. Not very likely either, I know. Some of the ins and outs are

Re: [biofuel] OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology or Conservation Investments

2004-04-28 Thread murdoch
A good one, in my view. I seem to recall having run across them some months or years ago, but in any event only got to re-examining them a day or two ago. Part of the problem has been that it has been very slow going, over the years, in getting access to information to (and the ability to

Re: [biofuel] NYT Article - US Farm Subsidies Impact Developing World

2004-04-28 Thread murdoch
good one On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:45:35 +, you wrote: Those Illegal Farm Subsidies Published: April 28, 2004 http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/28/opinion/28WED1.html?th America's lavish handouts to its farmers harvest poverty throughout the developing world. And they are illegal as well.

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-28 Thread murdoch
Is that the one that former CIA director Woolsey had something to do with? I'm not asking to be cynical, but to clarify. It seemed to me that after leaving Gov't direct service, and in being a very vocal supporter of biofuels, I had heard that he had taken an interest in one of the biofuel

Re: [biofuel] Re: Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-28 Thread murdoch
@yahoogroups.com, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have also been trying to keep half an eye on them (Iogen itself is not publicly traded, which makes this a bit of a challenge, even if some of its investors apparently are), and on Genencor (stock symbol GCOR here in the US

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology or Conservation Investments

2004-04-27 Thread murdoch
Have been catching bits and pieces of solar news here in Arizona. The 2nd largest PV installation in the world is in Springerville (3 or 4 MW I think the largest is in Italy) and I did see an interesting news release about a planned thermal solar project somewhere around here. Not the

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: auto safety tips

2004-04-27 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 02:56:35 -, you wrote: --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To what you're written I would add some mention of public transportation, which in the end I'm guessing is dramatically safer per passenger-mile traveled, in addition perhaps

Re: [biofuel] OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology or Conservation Investments

2004-04-27 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 18:00:13 -0700, you wrote: Does anyone here have any ideas for investments in stocks (anywhere in the world... does *not* have to be North America) that have a good sustainable technology or energy technology or conservation angle? In the course of my research, ran across

[biofuel] Energy Policy: Supreme Court Hears Cheney Secrecy Case

2004-04-27 Thread murdoch
My point of view on the immediate legal question is that I do not think that private meetings should be made public. I don't see how government researchers can carry out candid research if that is to take place. Meanwhile, three years later, what I think of as part of the real issue is still

Re: [biofuel] Energy Policy: Supreme Court Hears Cheney Secrecy Case

2004-04-27 Thread murdoch
For some reason it bothers me to have posted this. I'm glad to be able to make an attempt to dissect what I think are the issues here (trying to bring out the difference between what is illegal and, additionally, what I think should be criticized whether it is found illegal or not), but for some

Re: [biofuel] OT: auto safety tips

2004-04-26 Thread murdoch
To what you're written I would add some mention of public transportation, which in the end I'm guessing is dramatically safer per passenger-mile traveled, in addition perhaps to having some different uses of fuel per passeger-mile traveled, and perhaps having some different 'valuation' of those

Re: [biofuel] Big and Bad: How The SUV ran over automotive safety

2004-04-26 Thread murdoch
In addition to the other answers you've received, I will put in my two cents, which is that, in this rural part of Southern Arizona, I have looked around in a parking lot recently where it was hard to find too many cars. This helps bring to our attention the connection between the pickup trucks

Re: [biofuel] Cellulose-Alcohol story.

2004-04-25 Thread murdoch
I have also been trying to keep half an eye on them (Iogen itself is not publicly traded, which makes this a bit of a challenge, even if some of its investors apparently are), and on Genencor (stock symbol GCOR here in the US), and although riored's question was blunt, it does sort of summarize

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