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Reuters Point Carbon
New Zealand’s greenhouse gas emissions are set to rise nearly 50 per cent
by 2040,
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20130823/SMALLBIZ/130829952
Buyers unmoved by Sandy's reclaimed wood
Busted boardwalks and homes delivered tropical hardwoods and popular pine
to the reclamation market. But buyers are picky, and demolition crews know
one person's trash is another's gold.
BY
http://www.yesmagazine.org/new-economy/could-biofuels-mean-a-new-deal-for-appalachia-s-forests
A New Deal for Appalachia’s Forests: Growing Biofuels?
The mine-ravaged communities of Eastern Kentucky have been increasingly
abandoned by the coal economy. Could growing biofuels jumpstart a new
that were taken from more than 70 redwoods and giant sequoias. NASA
engineer Steve Craft, who helped arrange for David Milarch to address an
agency gathering, said research shows that those species hold much more
carbon than other varieties.
The challenge is to find places to put the trees, people
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/12/opinion/why-trees-matter.html?_r=0
Why Trees Matter
By JIM ROBBINS
Published: April 11, 2012
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TREES are on the front lines of our changing climate. And when the oldest
trees in the world suddenly start dying, it’s time to pay attention.
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American actress Lily Tomlin is credited with
Shimano used to have something called the biopace chainring. The chainrings
where oblong, so that you would get a more powerful downstroke.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biopace
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Sent:
Don't farmers have the right to sell their corn to whoever they want to
sell it too? Even if corn is going to make ethanol, so? So the world
has increased its demand for oil, and that means that oil costs more,
that means that we need to find ways to offset that, so we make corn
into ethanol,
I don't think I've seen anything on this aspect, and as I'm kind of new
to make BD, I don' t know if knowing how much soap you're producing
would help correct the problem or not, but the place I get my
isopropanol from has a link now mentioning soap titration, so I thought
I'd share.
Maybe he's working with a group of guys to make it. Maybe he owns a
delivery truck. Maybe he owns a company that has 12 trucks in its
fleet. Maybe he has a hole in his storage tank.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Keith Addison
Sent:
Ya just never know ;)
This is almost as intriguing a mystery as all those feet washing up in
canada.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Keith Addison
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:03 PM
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re:
.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Thomas Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 5:36 AM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel test batch question
Steve,
Have your test batches passed the quality test?
I do my
I think (but I'm not sure) that methanol will evaporate at 140, is that
correct? If it is, then keeping the temp below that would become very
important too.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Thomas Kelly
Sent: Mon 4/28/2008 6:39 PM
To:
I do my test batches in a pot on a coleman stove out in the garage so I
can maintain the temp.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of mike
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:58 PM
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel test
I've also heard that the powerstroke is hit or miss. Anything after
2003 is going to be a lot quieter than the old diesels, there were some
new federal requirements imposed in 2003 about noise levels.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Zeke
Speed limits should not be set at the national level, it's a state or
municipal issue.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Brian Schneider
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 11:26 AM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re:
More laws don't fix a damn thing - look at the 'War on Drugs' or
Washington DC where handgun ownership is illegal and the crime is the
worst in the country.
Even more disgusting is how laws are enforced, in Denver, Co, they have
a concealed weapons ban, which conflicts with the state that
well, if the ice age is coming, then maybe we all need hummers and big trucks
to create more green house gasses ;)
55 is fine for the densely populate tracts of america (the coasts), but its
going to be a rea hard sell in the vast expanses of the middle of the
country. The federal
gee, and we're still paying farmers to leave thier feilds sit? I live in
colorado, and I have freinds that bought farms solely because the government
pays them to not grow. Great investment, getting paid to sit on your butt.
seems to me that if the shortage was really that bad, we'd stop
They use something like that in the balitmore harbor. a smallish boat with a
conveyor belt in the center and two arms that scissor horizontally across the
top of the water and have conveyor type belts on them that pull the garbage
toward the center belt. The boat floats on pontoons on the
these things
http://www.trashskimmer.com/balt.htm
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steve Moran
Sent: Sat 4/19/2008 9:38 AM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org;
sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Message In A Bottle
Hi, Can anyone give me some info on locating methanol? Just starting up
small scale biodiesel processing. thanks, Steve
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Does anyone realize that when the gov was saying there was no surplus of
crude oil and thus the high prices of gasoline Exxon's billions of
quarterly profit Dollars, there were at least 16 fully laden ships waiting
outside Bolivar Roads (entrance to Houston) refineries waiting for the
price to
Enough already! We can kick the messenger, but the message is still relevant.
By winning the Oscar, An Inconvenient Truth got lots of publicity, and just
maybe will help spread the word.
Steve
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From: Fred Oliff
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent
and as the
world's resources dwindle, there will be more and more reasons found for
creating peace!
Steve
On Wednesday 14 February 2007 04:36 pm, John Wilson wrote:
HI Peter,
So we better have figured out what to do before then
(about 4 billion years from now)!
We don't have the full 4 billion
seen one in use or even for sale, though these are designed,
developed and manufactured here.
steve
On Saturday 28 October 2006 01:18 pm, Zeke Yewdall wrote:
This is known as Cogeneration, and in the energy consulting world is
considered pretty hot. Usually it's trying to recuperate heat from small
comments. The frist night I was on there were a few and
then I got spanked for being a newbie and asking questions. Maybe I did not set
up the e-mail service to recive the good stuff. Will keep watching and
reading.
sorry about the spelling, Steve
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From:
Kirk
-58 was the engines that were in the
SR-71.
Scared to post, Steve
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From:
Paul S
Cantrell
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:10
PM
Subject: [SPAM]: Re: [Biofuel] Fuel
Help
It looks and smells like absolutely brand new
So sorry, I was thinking that the J-58 used
JP-8, Its been awhile since a was around a fuel farm.I believe that it was
JP-7 that the J-58 used. Sorry for any confusion.
Now realy scard to post, Steve
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From:
Paul S
Cantrell
To: biofuel
products from
the reaction. 2nd wash mist and mild aireation, 3rd wash, mist and strong
aireation. I think that this might work to help cut down on any emulsions in
the wash and help move the fuel in the tank around a bit on the last wash as
well. Just my thoughs on it.
Steve
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to post pictures as I go with the
consruction of the unit.
Thanks Again, Steve
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From:
Derick Giorchino
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 5:44
PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Using biodiesel in
newer truck-cars
I have
Thank for the input and info so far. Still pushing
forward with a processor, but would like to hear more from anyone that has had
trouble with the newer engines.
Please keep them coming.
Thanks, Steve
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From:
DB
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent
with the
6.6lly engine in it. Any links on the net or info about problems that I might
have running biodiesel that I have made myself in a newer computer controled
diesels would be nice. Thanks for the help.
Frist post to the list,
Steve
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!) on the pitch and
then watch what happens for the rest of the season!
Compost is a natural product. As long as the source is organic, home made
compost is better than anything you would have normally used instead.
Steve
On Monday 19 June 2006 06:11 am, DB wrote:
you don't have to grind compost
Mike,
I had to live with the guy. You have no idea the damage he did to the
state.
Steve
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From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kicking the oil habit
Unfortunately.
I
Mike,
I share your view of the Union Leader, but they do have a readership.
Steve Knox
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From: Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kicking the oil habit
My least favorite
even further the already low mpg that most cars get. We can wish and
hope that a majority of the American people are ready to face the challenge,
but I'm not convinced.
Steve Knox
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday
I believe that there is a company in Germany (CHOREN) who makes biodiesel
from wood. If my memory is correct, they're getting about 60 or so gallons
per ton. A major oil company has bought an interest in the company.
Steve
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From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED
are leaning
towards gasification. Does anyone in the group have any comments on that
technology?
Steve Knox
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From: Jan Warnqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel from wood
Hello Steve
uses a pyrolysis system
to produce bio-oil. They are working with a German company to convert the
bio-oil in biodiesel. According to a press release, initial results were
very encouraging.
Steve Knox
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From: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
softwoods just don't produce as much lye? or not
just the type of lye affects the hardness of soap? I'm beyond my realm of
knowledge at this point, so more questions than answers.
In any case, your source would be fine.
Steve
On Saturday 13 May 2006 01:57 am, Zeke Yewdall wrote:
Often all
of the progress if we threw some real
dollars at this area - like for example a fraction of the military and
defense research spending.
Steve
On Monday 08 May 2006 10:55 am, JJJN wrote:
Hello Steve,
Yea it a bummer to see our think tanks beg, but the bottom line is if
they start producing
, will take significant
funding, he and others said.
If we could get support from the state and from these local companies, there
is no reason why it would not stay here, Lin said. I see opportunity in
Iowa.
Steve
On Sunday 07 May 2006 03:35 pm, JJJN wrote:
My mother in law sent me an article by Anne
You're entitled to your opinion sexist!
Steve
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From:
Gary L.
Green
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:43
AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re:
Pollution: Where have all the baby boysgone?
Just my opinion
being close for disposal of all your gardening
'waste'.
Haven't found a way to have it power my Toyota Surf turbo diesel yet though.
--
Steve Racz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tuesday 07 March 2006 03:47 pm, Rexis Tree wrote:
Composting required aerobic condition and well balanced C-N ratio to carry
out
of different solutions at the local level with local people who
care about their local environment( and therefore the global environment). We
can't leave it to big business to solve this one because we already know
where their values are and what results that leads to.
Steve
On Wednesday 22 February
is Austin but
perhaps they can either ship parts to you or you can contact them for a
suggestoin on a closer source in Houston.
Steve
On Thursday 16 February 2006 08:43 am, Mark Kennedy wrote:
Home Depot was my first stop. I have three of them within 10 mins of my
house. the home depot's around
:14 -0500
Happy day Steve!
A neighbor has a full-size (dodge cummins I believe)one for sale... would you like me to get more info on it?
Peace
Good luck!
Felix
P.S. and I have two diesel mercedes for sale, should you be interested...
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Stan wrote "I don'tunderstand why Toyota doesn't just sell a new diesel pickup here".
Has anyone visited a Toyota dealer and asked that question. I think I will when I get back to Canada in 3 weeks. Alternatively, I wonder if they (Toyota) would have a cheaper way of importing a diesel
Any suggestions on where I can find a small to mid sized dieselpick-up truck in Ontario, Canada? In the truck trader, I only found 2 or 3 older trucks with over 300 000km.Steve Reimer
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I'm anxious to get started in learning how to make biodiesel, and some web
searches have turned up outfits like www.makebiodiesel.org, which market
complete kits. Are these things really worth it, or are they selling junk
to the uninitiated?
-Steve
I have a question that I have been debating with a biology teacher. Is
Hemp illegal to grow in the US. If it is not, where is it grown and
what are the exceptions to being allowed to grow it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of bob allen
, but if you drink the output you'll be a very unhappy camper.
-Steve
A while back, we had a discussion on simple cook stoves.
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/46479/1
I was wondering if some of the charcoal collected from the stove could be
used as a water purifier. I quickly checked
phone may find something else to take its place.
-Steve
Actually, the DOT did a study of accidents caused by distracted drivers a
few years ago. About 80% were caused by distractions outside the car
(billboards, that woman walking down the street, etc.). Of the 20% caused
by distractions
heat pump. I joined this list so I could learn how to
produce my own biodiesel, so I can power my vehicles without burning up
fossil fuels.
-Steve
Let's unravel. Climate change is only one of four interconnected and
massive problems facing the planet. If the only issue we were worried
about
for the forseeable future. I believe the answer
is for us to find alternative sources of energy that are cheap enough that
the average person will be interested.
-Steve
...much of the inefficiency within the American energy grid is from
transmission losses. Instead of nuclear, we need to invest in clean
or ethanol for my tractors and/or
trucks for my own use and possible sell excess.
Is this a process that would save me $$? Corn and soy prices are very
low so I am losing money growing them.
Poor dirt farmer in PA,
Steve Hess
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
to use to make Ethanol?
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Keith Addison
Sent: Fri 4/22/2005 11:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: [Biofuel] On-farm biodiesel or ethanol - was RE: home made
fuelcell etc
I doubt the independent retailers know about, or care about fuel
efficiency
steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of bob allen
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 10:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Acetone in fuel increases
Rob
I have a very damp basement and would be interested in your plans for
the dehumidifier.
Steve Hess
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kim Garth Travis
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel
Sent: Oct 21 2004 16:49:37
Steve
It would take too long to go over all the posts that really blow it.
There are so many of them. I'm going to stick with biofuels and
related topics, and leave it to the rest of you muckrakers. I'm not
the one who stirs stuff up
Appeal to Engineers - by V.K.DESAI
We are living in the era of engineers. Progress of science and
technology has created innumerable amenities for happy life. Much of the
comfort and luxuries created by industrial progress is due to the
dedicated efforts of thousand of engineers, technologist
Morris is right, Lovins has soot in his eyes.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Jonathan Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [Biofuels] Hydrogen or Biofuels?
Good one
I drive 50 miles to work each way. We are 15 miles from the nearest grocery
store/shopping center, 5 miles from the nearest gas station.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12
or 1600
meters are often called metric miles.
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/61126.html
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:29 AM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] fuel
The return line should get rid of air in the system for you. air will either
escape in the cylinder, or return to the tank.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 6:26 AM
Government Hydrogen programs are designed to keep oil companies happy, since
that is the source of all commercial hydrogen. Anything can look economical
if enough tax subsidies are thrown at it. Business as usual.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From
hydrogen
at home, and use it in your car, without a monumental upfront system cost.
Much more than you would pay for a VW Diesel, and a lifetime's supply of
biodiesel to run it.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Jonathan Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
is in the best interest of one country,
very often is not in the best interest of others. Depends on your POV, and
your appetite. One hopes that a country thinks of others as well as
themselves.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Ken Riznyk [EMAIL PROTECTED
engine coolant will heat DHW though a heat exchanger.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Ken Riznyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The VeggieGen is running Veggie!
Are you just
stumbling, air blockage, rough running, and stalling.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Running on B100
What would happen
It's the one coming out of the banjo bolt on top of the filter that heads
back to the fuel tank.
There are two others on top also, coming from the injectors.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
would
I be so foolish to throw away my expensive and high quality PV electric in
such a manner?
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Walt Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Short-range
My circulating tank heaters pull 1kw (there are 500 and 800 watt models). My
fuel filter pad heaters pull 68 watts.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Mel Riser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 12:05 PM
Subject: RE
Yes, that's me.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Johnston, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] The VeggieGen is running Veggie!
Congratulations! was that you in the picture
We often get filter clogs the first time bio-d is used, which is why we
install a sacrificial filter for the first few tank fills.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 8:26
Just about anything in the usa is legal, except distilling drinkable
spirits. That you need a permit for. homemade fuels for personal use have
very few restrictions.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: francisco j burgos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL
in a word, NO.
Say goodbye to your injectors and pump.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Ken Riznyk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: Was Re: [Biofuel] Changing Government/Now ethanol
Any
from svo, or wvo?
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Lyle Estill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset
Ok. Let's leave the same proposition out
yep, that was my exceptions remark.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Gregg Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel] HELP
Hi Steve,
While you can't use 100% Biodiesel
don't get caught with red diesel in your tank. passenger vehicles don't
usually get checked, though my buddy, Eddie, did with his diesel suburban.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday
My Detroit Diesel is rated for 40k hours between rebuilds.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Back to grid via WVO genset
That fellow
I suspect that expecting a fuel additive to double the life of an engine
is not such a good idea.
Steve Spence
IT Specialist
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(315) 393-3573 x.242
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Johnston, Don
Sent: Friday, October 08
The KB (solvent strength) of biodiesel is similar to #2 diesel.
Biodiesel smells like French fries, sorta.
No, you can't use Biodiesel in a petrol car (stock answer, exceptions
rule).
Steve Spence
www.green-trust.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
carbon tax does not equal pollution credits.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Kyoto clears last hurdle / Scientists
It's a '96, you don't need to change anything.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Cullen Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 6:36 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Dodge Cummins Fuel Hoses
Hello Everyone,
Forgive
Carbon trading of course is just a scam to allow you to buy polluting rights
from others while pretending everyone has a right to pollute just a little.
Carbon trading is not a good thing!
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From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Kyoto clears last hurdle / Scientists
againstBush/U.S. can end oil use
Steve Spence wrote:
Carbon trading of course is just a scam to allow you to buy polluting
rights
from others while pretending everyone has a right to pollute just a
little.
Carbon trading
Most all of us would sic like to have a section on the ballot that
says Neither candidate is suitable. Please try again.
I like that. Thank you!
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From: Peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 11:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Biofuel]
/ Scientists
againstBush/ U.S. can end oil use
Steve Spence wrote:
Carbon trading of course is just a scam to allow you to buy polluting
rights
from others while pretending everyone has a right to pollute just a
little.
Carbon trading is not a good thing!
I disagree. Cap and trade market
try some veggie with alcohol.
Steve Spence
http://www.green-trust.org
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From: Jeffrey Kumjian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 3:14 PM
Subject: [Biofuel] Model fuel
Can you make a model aircraft engine run on biofuel? Jeffrey
I wonder where he thinks they will get the hydrogen from, and how much
he thinks folks will be willing to pay for it .
Steve Spence
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Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 11:23 AM
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My '83 vw rabbit does, but my Detroit Diesel generator does not.
Steve Spence
www.green-trust.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel
1. reserves until they are depleted
2. pollutants can be separated
Those two statements are greatly deserving of thought.
Steve Spence
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At $10 / GGE equivalent, I just bet buyers will be lining up to get their
fill ...
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From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 1:01 AM
Subject: [Biofuel] Solar Hydrogen
Solar hydrogen - energy of the future
26 August
The VeggieGen is running Veggie! Sorta
Tonight we fired up on 50/50 Kerosene and Waste Vegetable Oil. The
Detroit Diesel is loving the mix and is purring like a kitten!
Smells sweet. The details of our oil filtration system are coming
shortly. Tomorrow the heat exchanger gets installed in
Environmental problems for kerosene (paraffin to you, we think paraffin is
something you can jellies with) are the same as gasoline and diesel. It's a
finite fossil fuel that produces pollution and green house gases.
Why not do yourself a favor, and run ethanol in that petrol engine, or get a
That 1980 Mercedes we converted this weekend was one of the nicest examples
of an old car that I have seen in a while. No rust, not a lot of
clutter, easy to work on.
Only 26 mpg, but it's a wagon, and heavy. With free veggie, the mpg isn't
as critical.
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