Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-23 Thread Keith Addison
Maximum 96% by distillation, 192-proof, then it stops because of azeotropism. The boiling temperature of 96% ethanol is lower than that of pure ethanol. snip With respect Keith, but if I'm not wrong, the boiling point of 96% is higher than that of pure ethanol. At that percentage the

Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-23 Thread Zeke Yewdall
So, can you just burn 192 proof ethanol in an engine? I can't see any fundamental problem, other than a little decrease in burning temperature from having an additional 4% non-combustible stuff in there. But we are already using air that has ~80% non-combustible nitrogen in it... On 9/22/05,

[Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-22 Thread Bob
Where can I buy a still that can produce fuel grade ethanol (190 proof)? I have read that the charles 803 is a poor still and I have no access to anyone knowledgable enough to build a good enough still without accurate plans. I could possibly pay someone to build one if I knew exactly what to

Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-22 Thread Keith Addison
Where can I buy a still that can produce fuel grade ethanol (190 proof)? I have read that the charles 803 is a poor still It does work, sort of, but it doesn't do what its promoters claim for it. They claim 5-7 gallons per hour of 180-190-proof ethanol, but it'll only do about 3 gallons per

Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-22 Thread Manick Harris
Hello everybody, If my knowledge of ethanol-water fractionation data serves me correctly, you cannot get 190proof alcohol by fractional distillation of alcohol-water mixture.Onlyup to170-180 proof which could be used for E85 cars. To get 100% alcohol try extraction with castor oil of fermented

Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-22 Thread Keith Addison
Greetings Manickh Hello everybody, If my knowledge of ethanol-water fractionation data serves me correctly, you cannot get 190proof alcohol by fractional distillation of alcohol-water mixture. Maximum 96% by distillation, 192-proof, then it stops because of azeotropism. The boiling

Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-22 Thread John Short
, September 22, 2005 3:11 AM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol Where can I buy a still that can produce fuel grade ethanol (190 proof)? I have read that the charles 803 is a poor still and I have no access to anyone knowledgable enough to build

Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-22 Thread Manick Harris
Hello Keith and all, My earlier posting that 190 proof is not possible is not correct. I am sorry about this but the cost of fractional distillation will be relatively high as a lot of stages are required. I checked out toluene also. It is not listed as azeotrope forming and it scrambles the

Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-22 Thread Manick Harris
Hello everybody, Here are two websites that cite ethyl acetate as auto fuel. Note the low price. I think it is viable now. Any comments on this suggestion would be welcome. Cheers ManickhKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings ManickhHello everybody,If my knowledge of ethanol-water

Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-22 Thread Manick Harris
Greetings everyone, Got 2 references for use of ethyl acetate as auto fuel and octane boosting. I believe it will be better than ethanol since it is miscible with petrol and a lot easier to make and rectify, unlike ethanol. Sorry I forgot to include their url in previous mail. Cheers. Manickh

Re: [Biofuel] Purchasing a still for ethanol

2005-09-22 Thread Pieter Koole
Maximum 96% by distillation, 192-proof, then it stops because of azeotropism. The boiling temperature of 96% ethanol is lower than that of pure ethanol. snip With respect Keith, but if I'm not wrong, the boiling point of 96% is higher than that of pure ethanol. At that percentage the boiling