>I'm terribly pressed for time, but thought this may be of interest. >A minor correction to Hakan. I live in a National Forest, not a >National Park. > > >http://www.reason.com/rb/rb121802.shtml > >Best, >Motie
... by "Ronald Bailey, Reason's science correspondent, is the editor of Global Warming and Other Eco Myths (Prima Publishing) and Earth Report 2000: Revisiting the True State of the Planet(McGraw-Hill)." We talked about him before, remember? When you posted this: "Mommy, There's A Monster Under My Bed! (A Review Of Global Warming And Other Eco-Myths) (Thought Provoking Book Review)." Wise Use, stuff, radical right anti-environment lobby, corporate-funded but claims to be independent, closely linked with all the others and their astroturf groups and so on. There were some responses, to which you replied (below). Ramjee said this: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote>> > >>Mommy, There's A Monster Under My Bed! (A Review Of Global Warming > >>And Other Eco-Myths) ><snip> > >Probably the subject line should have read 'provocative book review!' ;-) > >I guess, an Indian edition/context of the book would include a >lengthy chapter on greed (oops, green) revolution by that >illustrious agri scientist of India called MS Swaminathan, who is >the Norman Borlaug's equivalent in India. The cutest thing is that >this scientist has now started talking about 'sustainable' farming >etc - probably because, this would get suffient funding, in these >days of enlightened benefactors! Anyway, a few quotes that I >harvested are in order here: > >Do not become archivists of facts. Try to penetrate to the secret of >their occurrence, persistently search for the laws which govern them. >-- Ivan Pavlov >It is not necessary to understand things in order to argue about them. >-- Caron de Beaumarchais > >So Motie, please forgive Ron Bailey - he knows naught what he is doing. ;-) Thor said this: >I have read sections of similar publications by Bailey >before. There is some useful information therein, and >undoubtedly it is always good to hear a different >opinion. But my impression, after going through the >contents posted at >http://www.nrbookservice.com/bookpage.asp?prod_cd=C5961 >is that this publication is largely greenwash, as is >most of what the CEI puts out. > >I don't care what experts Bailey has lined up. You >can always find an expert who disagrees with other >experts. What is important is that CEI has a strong >ideological grounding, that has nothing itself to do >with science. They believe in free markets and >limited government. They pick and choose science to >suit their point of view, not in any quest for >"objective truth." > >Two examples from CEI's "The Environmental Source >2002" at >http://www.cei.org/gencon/026,01623.cfm > >1. on energy policy: >"CAFE does not reduce gasoline consumption." >enough said > >2. the section on Agricultural Biotechnology looks as >if it has been written by Monsanto. Talk about shoddy >science and lack of empirical grounding. It dismisses >legitimate ecological concerns (laregely by not >mentioning them) about the potential consequences of >introducing GMOs into the environment. It claims that >labeling of GMO foods will raise the cost of food for >poor people--by how much they don't say, and they >don't mention that it won't raise the cost of food >that DOESN'T contain GMOs. and on and on > >What is remarkable about CEI's work is that, although >they extoll the free market, they say nothing about >the role played by corporations (e.g. large market >actors) in influencing public policy and regulation. >You'd think the only ones out there doing lobbying >were misguided environmental organizations and >activist groups. Also, they selectively promote >consumer welfare; that is, they support the purported >desire of consumers to have the lowest priced goods no >matter what the ecological, ethical, human rights, or >economic impacts of the production, distribution, or >consumption of those products, but they generally >oppose consumer education and choice through labeling >and certification, or anything else that would expose >these impacts or reflect them in pricing. > >In short, it's largely a load of crap, but >nevertheless probably an interesting read in parts. > >best to all, > >thor skov I said this: >Motie, if you don't mind, this is total BS. Ronald Bailey, FCOL! When >it comes to sheer hard facts, Mr Bailey, the Competitive Enterprise >Institute and Reason Magazine are right up there with Denis Avery, >Michael Fumento, Bjorn Lomborg and, indeed, the one and only David >Pimentel - hooray for these torch-bearers of perverted truth, >talented liars one and all who would save us from ourselves! Sheesh! > >The Competitive Enterprise Institute 'postures as an advocate of >"sound science" in the development of public policy. In fact, it is >an ideologically-driven, well-funded front for corporations opposed >to safety and environmental regulations that affect the way they do >business.' Simply that, spinners one and all, very much including Mr >Bailey: > >"Ronald Bailey (1993) is the author of a 1993 book titled Eco-Scam: >The False Prophets of Ecological Apocalypse and a contributing editor >to Reason magazine. In 1995, CEI published a book edited by Bailey >titled The True State of the Planet, written to counter to the >Worldwatch Institute's influential annual State of the World reports. >Contributors to The True State of the Planet included a who's-who of >the libertarian right: Dennis Avery of the Hudson Institute, Terry L. >Anderson of the Political Economy Research Center, Nicholas Eberstadt >of the American Enterprise Institute, Kent Jeffreys of the Heritage >foundation, Stephen Moore of the Cato Institute." >http://www.prwatch.org/improp/cei.html >Competitive Enterprise Institute >Impropaganda Review - A Rogue's Gallery of Industry Front Groups and >Anti-Environmental Think Tanks (Center for Media & Democracy) > >"Organic farming could kill billions of people", wrote Mr Bailey in >an article titled "Organic Alchemy" in Reason Magazine (June 5, >2002). Ho-hum. On the other hand, his co-author in this "Thought >Provoking Book", Norman Borlaug, is accused of doing just that, with >some reason. > > >Other chapters recount the DDT charade, including the ongoing costs > >in human life resulting from its ban; the illogical debate over > >energy supplies and "alternative" sources; the widespread acceptance > >of the "Precautionary Principle", whose main object is to stop the > > development of the human race. > >Stop the rampant "development" of the corporate bottom-line maybe, at >the expense of everything else, including the planet. DDT is >essential to controlling the spread of malaria - BS. (One reason >malaria's spreading is the spreading of the effects of global warming >- not BS.) Norman Borlaug, father of the Green Revolution? He still >has some semblance of credibility outside of the Monsanto boardroom? >Amazing. All the usual suspects. > >Hey, guys, we're all being "illogical" with this childish nonsense >over biodiesel and so on - Love Big Oil! And all will be well. Trust >me. > >Er, Motie, you were joking, right? > >Try this instead: > >#737 - Environmental Trends -- Part 1, 11-08-01 >http://www.rachel.org/bulletin/bulletin.cfm?Issue_ID=2114&bulletin_ID=48 > >#738 - Environmental Trends -- Part 2, 11-22-01 >http://www.rachel.org/bulletin/bulletin.cfm?Issue_ID=2116&bulletin_ID=48 > >Please, no more Mr Bailey, nor Messrs Avery, Lomborg, etc. And you said this: > Keith and all, > My sincere apologies! It wasn't meant to be a joke, just thought >provoking. I confess I didn't research it. It came in my email, and I >passed it on without knowing it's History, or researching it. >To be honest, I am embarrassed, particularly after my recent tirades >against those who pass on debunked 'studies'. > I do now have a better understanding as to how it can happen. > >Feeling Humble, >Motie Bailey's a deliberate liar, Motie, we can do without him thankyou. And so can you! Regards Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
