Re: [Biofuel] diesel, is it cleaner?

2005-03-26 Thread DB


much betterall around .supposidly it is less toxic than table salt and more 
biodegradible than suger.
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Back in the 80's there was a report published about the findings of number 
of independant scientists investigating the effects of burning diesel fuel 
and the connection to the big increase of asthma in children. Not only did 
they find the two very much connected, they also claimed diesel was 
responsible for causing cancer. Do you know anybody who has died from lung 
cancer that didn't smoke? It also went on to state it was one of the most 
dangerous substances known to man because of the increasing volume of usage. 
Does anybody remember this report?. I know several people who do- they all 
own diesel powered cars. It's funny how we all think that nothing is going 
to happen to us, just to the other bloke. Does anyone know of any research 
done on the effects of biodiesel on the human body? Is it less harmfull? I 
hope it is as i intend to make some.  regards  AT.

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Re: [Biofuel] diesel, is it cleaner?

2005-03-22 Thread Jan Warnqvist

Hi Andrew  Tracy.
There is a Swedish survey performed by Motor Test Center, in which FAME is
compared with Swedish diesel oil Mk 1 and other similar fuels. The survey is
focusing on the cancerogenity of the particulants of the fuel respectively.
The results suggest that the semi-violate phase from biodiesel is more
carcinogenic than the correspondent from diesel fuel. But, on the other hand
that phase is much smaller from biodiesel than from diesel fuel, so it makes
diesel fuel more dangerous anyway.
http://www.mtc.se/eng/freport.htm
Emissions from Use of RME Compared to Environmental Class 1 Diesel Fuel in
a HD Vehicle
It should be pointed out that this report has not brought much attention to
itself.
Best regards
Jan

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AGERATEC AB

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From: Andrew  Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Biofuel] diesel, is it cleaner?


Back in the 80's there was a report published about the findings of number
of independant scientists investigating the effects of burning diesel fuel
and the connection to the big increase of asthma in children. Not only did
they find the two very much connected, they also claimed diesel was
responsible for causing cancer. Do you know anybody who has died from lung
cancer that didn't smoke? It also went on to state it was one of the most
dangerous substances known to man because of the increasing volume of usage.
Does anybody remember this report?. I know several people who do- they all
own diesel powered cars. It's funny how we all think that nothing is going
to happen to us, just to the other bloke. Does anyone know of any research
done on the effects of biodiesel on the human body? Is it less harmfull? I
hope it is as i intend to make some.  regards  AT.
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Re: [Biofuel] diesel, is it cleaner?

2005-03-22 Thread John Hayes



Hi Andrew  Tracy.
There is a Swedish survey performed by Motor Test Center, in which FAME is
compared with Swedish diesel oil Mk 1 and other similar fuels. The survey is
focusing on the cancerogenity of the particulants of the fuel respectively.
The results suggest that the semi-violate phase from biodiesel is more
carcinogenic than the correspondent from diesel fuel. But, on the other hand
that phase is much smaller from biodiesel than from diesel fuel, so it makes
diesel fuel more dangerous anyway.
http://www.mtc.se/eng/freport.htm
Emissions from Use of RME Compared to Environmental Class 1 Diesel Fuel in
a HD Vehicle
It should be pointed out that this report has not brought much attention to
itself.
Best regards
Jan


Is that the infamous frying pan study?

Anyway, I'd counter that the US DoE/USDA research finds that pure 
biodiesel reduces exhaust carcinogenicity by 94% while B20 reduces it by 
27%.


Here's the 2 page flyer - don't have the url to the full report handy.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/cleancities/blends/pdfs/5450.pdf

jh



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