Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-17 Thread MH
It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster. If the green house deal comes about, it will likely kill most the population off-- less

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-17 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:52:47PM -0600, MH wrote: The danger to wetlands would come from dryness as well as heat. W. Carter Johnson, professor of ecology at South Dakota State University, found that if temperatures increase 3.6¡F to 7¡F, precipitation would have to increase 10 to 25

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-15 Thread Richard Morgan
It looks like everyone is debating a self correcting problem, at least on the fuel/oil use. If we don't want to use the oil products, they are going to run out of them sooner or later-- use them faster. If the green house deal comes about, it will likely kill most the population off-- less

RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-15 Thread kirk
. Clueless by and large. End of rant Kirk -Original Message- From: Richard Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:24 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms It looks like

RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-14 Thread Anton Berteaux
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:14 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms Wait a minute! I thought that most accidents were alcohol induced according to National statistics. Let's just

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-14 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Anton Berteaux To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 15:05 Subject: RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms How about a class action lawsuit against all the suv's driving around

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-14 Thread greg
that was tried in the 1930`s - Original Message - From: studio53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms Wait a minute! I thought

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-14 Thread studio53
Wait a minute! I thought that most accidents were alcohol induced according to National statistics. Let's just outlaw alcohol8) ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-14 Thread Greg and April
Fine by me. - Original Message - From: Anton Berteaux Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 16:25 Subject: RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms and requiring all citizens to carry guns, so that noone is at a disadvantage. anton

RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-14 Thread Anton Berteaux
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:53 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms Fine by me. - Original Message - From: Anton Berteaux Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 16:25 Subject: RE

RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-14 Thread r . p . kurz
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms Wait a minute! I thought that most accidents were alcohol induced according to National statistics. Let's just outlaw alcohol8) ref http:// Jesse Parris

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-14 Thread Appal Energy
, 2002 9:34 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens,pitting conservationists against soccer moms how about a class action suit against people who want to further limit the rights of people who want to do as they please. isn't the government doing enough damage to our

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-13 Thread Richard Morgan
It seems to me if a person wanted to cut fuel use all they would have to do is change the system of public transport. Instead of charging a set amount for city busses, charge a nickel between numbered mile stops. A person is more likely to run for bread in a bus for ten cents than get

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-13 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Richard Morgan Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 09:00 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms It seems to me if a person wanted to cut fuel use all they would have to do is change

RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-13 Thread Rawls Moore
9:21 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms - Original Message - From: Richard Morgan Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 09:00 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-13 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: Rawls Moore Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 18:09 Subject: RE: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms I am sorry to hear about the poor bus system Greg. I live in Portland, OR and the bus system here

Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms

2002-03-13 Thread Harmon Seaver
against soccer moms - Original Message - From: Richard Morgan Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 09:00 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms It seems to me if a person wanted to cut fuel use all they would