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, not an abstract one.
It seems like MozillaSVG doesn't respect it either way. It just
ignores multiple subsequent
spaces.
Not sure how to work around that though. Perhaps using a character
the glyph of which is nothing but that isn't a space?
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Opera now supports client side XSLT , yay
Yeah, with this release Opera is arguably the best browser available.
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constraints work) I would expect that it would live in a
specification separate from SVG so that it could be reused elsewhere
(I sure have at times wanted to use something like that with HTML/CSS
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that is of higher
quality and that works on mobile devices? I'd be happy to contribute
a few simple rules, or else Björn's profile XSLT could be used.
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also plan to do the other variants, especially the non-deprecated ones?
- seeing your results against the SVG test suite, however short it
is, would be nice.
But I'm picking nits really. Opera: you kick ass!
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of
interesting discussions and help-giving tends to take place IMHO.
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they need it.
We certainly are not suffering from that as much as SWF/Flash, which
thanks to improvements in browsers is increasingly cornered into its
role as glorified animated GIF for ads :)
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elements of the document.
getElementsByTagNameNS() called on an element only searches the
descendants of that element.
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On Dec 17, 2005, at 19:32, Ronan Oger wrote:
SVG only supports mouse events.
SVG supports all sorts of events that are not mouse events.
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is broken. Can you show
us the document?
Anybody knows what should be installed in order to render SVGT?
You could also try Tinyline.
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it would also help them find bugs earlier.
And since they seem to be having hiring problems, if it's good it
might also entice quality people to apply for positions there.
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the one that's a terrible pain in the ass to use over the one I can
easily handle already.
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(ISO)
including ISO 15930, PDF/X and ISO 19005, PDF/A. That makes it
TOTALLY
OPEN and INTERNATIONALLY approved.
Being an ISO standard can be a useful selling argument, but given how
terribly bad some ISO specs are it's certainly not a guarantee of
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/mozzie
But I surely agree that SVG doesn't need either of MS or Adobe to do
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Type header is still right. If you were using Apache that fix would
work, and there would be an easy way to throw in a .htaccess file to
make .svgz work, but I don't know about IIS.
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commit to supporting SVG authoring the better for
all of us. I know you're not making the call yourself but you might
be able to pass it on. I'd be surprised if we were the only ones
developing mobile apps to face such questions from our customers.
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On Dec 05, 2005, at 03:28, Francis Hemsher wrote:
I'll give you thirty(30) days to post an FF demo that runs:
http://www.mobiusPortal.com/AvianFlu/viewPort_AF.asp
There seems to be no way of accessing it if you don't have IE anyway...
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inside other XML vocabularies and building on top of an
existing system, and you've done a brilliant job.
You guys rock the Web,
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back then.
Note that if the implementation you're using supports DOM 3 or the
uDOM then you don't want to use fooElem.firstChild.data (which is
wrong and will blow up in a number of cases) but rather
fooElem.textContent which will do what you really want most of the time.
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, or
running a vector tracing program on a GIF.
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the FF folks haven't
yet implemented it
- declare the fact that you have an ID in the internal subset of
your DOCTYPE. There's a bunch of examples out there.
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(which isn't small). If you had a daemon process handle
conversions it would already be a lot faster (whether fast enough for
your needs or not, I don't know).
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in the top left corner.
How easy does it get? What are people complaining about? Why ask that
highly infrastructural standards to change when you can stop, think for
half a second, and come up with a seven line solution?
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the behaviour in text/html mode comes from, but
there's no way around their behaviour in XML compliance mode. The DOM is
clear and strict on this.
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or with XML 2006 for next fall (don't know where it'll be, but in the US
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be in French as it would serve the purpose of spreading good
words about SVG (and we can do similar events in other countries).
Whatever happens, I'll be there and offer to present!
Me too!
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day that it took Microsoft 8 years to get XML everywhere that Microsoft
products are, which to many seems an eternity. It's becoming
increasingly difficult to not have SVG everywhere you have a mobile
phone, how long can it take for desktops to catch up? ;)
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benign goals.
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directly in a
foreign namespace (eg SMIL, XForms) is one of the approaches used for
that. I'm not saying there are zero issues -- otherwise there'd be zero
work going on -- but there's much more that works than doesn't work.
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spreading rumours and false information.
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It's a hard problem no matter which way you go about it. Doing it by
committee in a standards organisation or doing it by committee in a
behemoth company isn't likely to make much of a difference.
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, and doing the same
with other methods would be either impossible or quite hackish.
You mention using DOM methods to handle events, but I'm not sure what
you mean as addEventListener *is* the DOM way of setting event listeners.
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, it doesnt work. anyone got any clue?
If node is an array object, the method name you're looking for is
shift(), not shit().
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so others could take a look?
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into, that way the nodes it creates will
already be in the right document.
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a_spit_wad wrote:
How do you think Adobe purchasing Macromedia will affect their support
of the SVG plugin and SVG support in their products?
It is too early to tell but I would expect positive impacts in the
deployment of SVG.
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from this consolidation, and it would seem a bit daft from Adobe not to
take advantage of it to make more money and to build an impregnable
fortification against Microsoft's upcoming forays into this space. But
then, big companies are daft sometimes :)
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on the W3C's site. The next version (which is much more powerful)
is very close to being done.
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be the
impetus needed to get broader-based, multiplatform, multi-browser
support for SVG.
Have you seen http://svg.org/story/2005/2/21/163451/008 ?
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Philippe Lhoste wrote:
Robin Berjon wrote:
So when they say OK they really haven't checked anything, when they say
NOT OK they might be on crack, and like all namespace-unaware things
they're a dead branch of the XML tree. But feel free to use them anyway :)
So, I suppose I should remove
been well summarized in the other answer to this mail.
Can somebody build a little clip file in textpad (a great text editor,
at textpad.com), to reflect best SVG practices?
Textpad is great indeed but I don't have time to write a clip file.
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no success using x:link to 'inherit' a group and it's sub-items... Any
pointers?
Have you tried:
g id='foo'
...stuff...
/g
And later:
use xlink:href='#foo' x='897' y='87'/
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Use DTDs for validation if you want (they won't validate much but it's a
start) but don't use DOCTYPE. It's useless.
The most accessible validator is the one provided at validator.w3.org
with an XML
processor without having to reference the DTD in the DOCTYPE. In fact
it's better that way as you can choose various DTDs.
Use DTDs for validation if you want (they won't validate much but it's a
start) but don't use DOCTYPE. It's useless.
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supports 1.1, it's not really a new version, rather a
modularization so it'll work well. SVG 1.2 isn't a Rec yet but once it
is you'll find plugins.
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modularization so it'll work well. SVG 1.2 isn't a Rec yet but once it
is you'll find plugins.
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With no namespace declaration. The DOCTYPE is totally irrelevant (most
processors are not validating parsers in any way), maybe harmful, and
really, really should be avoided. There's no reason to have one, it only
adds bytes to the document. SVG 1.2 will in fact not have a DOCTYPE at all.
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, but a) it's
very dated, and b) SVG 1.2 won't even have a DTD(?)).
It's simple, don't use the DOCTYPE ever, and always use the namespace
declaration.
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once again more than polite enough in
answering him.
I must say that I'm sad to see a company that did so much cool stuff for
many years having fallen so low.
And in case you hadn't noticed, SVG has gained and continues to gain
significant traction. It's the darling of the mobile world.
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if it bothers you, but appeasement didn't work. Being
kind didn't work. Ignoring him didn't work. I'm also sorry if you think
I am being aggressive but nothing bothers me more than someone
deliberately pushing misinformation as JD does.
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from
since. Heck there's money for you guys to make, have you lost all
ability to adapt? That would be sad... :(
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that it was several years ago or have you
guys entirely given up on the mobile Web? As a former Macromedia user I
wish I could get back to using your products, but alas you seem to
stubbornly refuse industry standards.
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has a pattern and somehow fill it with (with
animation and all) or turn filtered subtrees into rasters. It would be
an interesting tool, but very hard to write completely.
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Thomas DeWeese wrote:
Thomas DeWeese wrote:
No Batik does not support foreignObjects. I'm not
sure what you would expect Batik to do with a foreignObject.
Robin Berjon wrote:
Allow people to register classes that would get a canvas to draw to
which Batik would then composite where the fO
will accept it
and it'll be in the DOM.
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be in the least surprised to
see XML Spy fall into that category...
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. In effect it's libraries.
It is also the best way to plan your code so that you can use sXBL when
it comes out.
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not quite widespread
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the above routines matches the SVG-Tiny set...
Has it been through major updates in the past few months? Last I looked
it was doing ridiculously less than Tiny.
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skatethere wrote:
But if you do so, you'll have to manually create a list of unicode
values and corresponding glyph-name from the SVG font. A list of the
glyph-names can be obtained from the SVG font (in a non-XML-aware
fashion) by:
perl -ne
Ronan Oger wrote:
On Thursday 04 November 2004 16.24, Robin Berjon wrote:
Ronan: I don't see what you find wrong with SVGTimer, it's just a
standardisation of ad hoc methods that already exist, minus their flaws
and plus coherent design -- nothing special, and almost no extra work
will (rightly) reject the document otherwise.
- when you create your own vocabulary, you can just put the elements
in your namespace, you don't have to put the attributes on them in the
namespace as well. I suggest just dropping the namespace on them.
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are not implemented yet (moz)
- svgDocument is an obvious error (you)
- you create elements with createElement() instead of
createElementNS(), which means the elements are not in the SVG
namespace (you).
After fixing that it works, even though the filters don't render.
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the DOM in general doesn't react to the default namespace at all.
So given that you can't assume a default namespace, not giving one means
you don't get one. Try it yourself: create an element with
createElement() and look at its namespaceURI field, it'll be null.
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not a super coder, I'm
sure there are tons of simple tasks that would help a lot.
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