Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-11 Thread Jason J. Hellenthal
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:00 -, rwatson wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Remko Lodder wrote: I agree with that; it would (!) help the bugbusting team in gathering required information. If there is an way to automate crashdumps and proper reporting and stick that in /var/crash/crash.$date or

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Jason J. Hellenthal jas...@dataix.net writes: If I may, I would like to introduce a distributed targeting system to this conversation in addition to crashinfo. Given with the above conversations I cant help but think that in a case like this it would be helpful to setup a central database for

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-11 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday 11 September 2009 2:00:58 am Jason J. Hellenthal wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:00 -, rwatson wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Remko Lodder wrote: I agree with that; it would (!) help the bugbusting team in gathering required information. If there is an way to automate

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-11 Thread Jason J. Hellenthal
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:22 -, des wrote: Jason J. Hellenthal jas...@dataix.net writes: If I may, I would like to introduce a distributed targeting system to this conversation in addition to crashinfo. Given with the above conversations I cant help but think that in a case like this it would

svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Ken Smith
Author: kensmith Date: Thu Sep 10 14:04:00 2009 New Revision: 197065 URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/197065 Log: Remove extra debugging support that is turned on for head but turned off for stable branches: - shift to MALLOC_PRODUCTION - turn off automatic crash

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday 10 September 2009 10:04:00 am Ken Smith wrote: Author: kensmith Date: Thu Sep 10 14:04:00 2009 New Revision: 197065 URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/197065 Log: Remove extra debugging support that is turned on for head but turned off for stable branches:

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Ken Smith
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 10:23 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: --- stable/8/etc/defaults/rc.conf Thu Sep 10 13:20:27 2009 (r197064) +++ stable/8/etc/defaults/rc.conf Thu Sep 10 14:04:00 2009 (r197065) @@ -549,7 +549,7 @@ lpd_flags= # Flags to lpd (if enabled

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Gavin Atkinson
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 14:04 +, Ken Smith wrote: Author: kensmith Date: Thu Sep 10 14:04:00 2009 New Revision: 197065 URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/197065 Log: Remove extra debugging support that is turned on for head but turned off for stable branches: [...]

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Ivan Voras
2009/9/10 Gavin Atkinson ga...@freebsd.org: This seems like a step backwards to me: crash dumps have been left enabled in 7.x and have proved very useful from the point of view of improved quality of received PRs.  I'm not aware of any problems relating to leaving them enabled. I'd

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Ken Smith
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 15:29 +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 14:04 +, Ken Smith wrote: Author: kensmith Date: Thu Sep 10 14:04:00 2009 New Revision: 197065 URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/197065 Log: Remove extra debugging support that is turned

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday 10 September 2009 10:32:29 am Ken Smith wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 10:23 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: --- stable/8/etc/defaults/rc.conf Thu Sep 10 13:20:27 2009 (r197064) +++ stable/8/etc/defaults/rc.conf Thu Sep 10 14:04:00 2009 (r197065) @@ -549,7

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Ken Smith
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 11:18 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: Having the debug symbols present is probably enough for that though since it is fairly easy to enable crashdumps in rc.conf vs. having to build a new kernel just to get debug symbols. Should we change the default behavior in 7? I was

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Ivan Voras
2009/9/10 Ken Smith kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu: On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 15:29 +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: This seems like a step backwards to me: crash dumps have been left enabled in 7.x and have proved very useful from the point of view of improved quality of received PRs.  I'm not aware of

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Alexander
- Message from kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu - Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:17:19 -0400 From: Ken Smith kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu Subject: Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: It has been pointed out to me on the mailing lists that leaving it on for stable/7 was an oversight, it is off on previous branches. I can understand the motivation for it. In a data center full of production machines crash dumps cause reboots to

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Remko Lodder
On Sep 10, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Robert Watson wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, John Baldwin wrote: It has been pointed out to me on the mailing lists that leaving it on for stable/7 was an oversight, it is off on previous branches. I can understand the motivation for it. In a data center full

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Remko Lodder wrote: I agree with that; it would (!) help the bugbusting team in gathering required information. If there is an way to automate crashdumps and proper reporting and stick that in /var/crash/crash.$date or something and tell people that they can report their

Re: svn commit: r197065 - in stable/8: etc/defaults lib/libc/stdlib sys/amd64/conf sys/i386/conf sys/ia64/conf sys/pc98/conf sys/powerpc/conf sys/sparc64/conf

2009-09-10 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 05:36:56PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote: 2009/9/10 Ken Smith kensm...@cse.buffalo.edu: On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 15:29 +0100, Gavin Atkinson wrote: This seems like a step backwards to me: crash dumps have been left enabled in 7.x and have proved very useful from the point