Dear all,
After the presentation of Netclean whitebox at last Swinog meeting from
Pascal Seeger and Grégoire Galland, we are pleased to announce that now two ISP
in Switzerland are using it to filter their Internet access to block pedophile
content.
Press releases (in French and German only)
do they filter the virgin killer page on Wikipedia?
just curious
Am 10.12.2008 um 09:54 schrieb Marc Hauswirth:
Dear all,
After the presentation of Netclean whitebox at last Swinog meeting
from Pascal Seeger and Grégoire Galland, we are pleased to announce
that now two ISP in
On Wednesday 10. December 2008, Silvan Gebhardt wrote:
do they filter the virgin killer page on Wikipedia?
just curious
citeDie hauptsächlichen Verfasser dieser schwarzen Listen sind
die britische Organisation Internet Watch Foundation
www.iwf.org.uk sowie die schwedische Polizei./cite
* on the Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:54:11AM +0100, Marc Hauswirth wrote:
After the presentation of Netclean whitebox at last Swinog meeting from
Pascal Seeger
and Grégoire Galland, we are pleased to announce that now two ISP in
Switzerland are
using it to filter their Internet access to
Excuse my ignorance, since I didn't make it to last SWINOG... the
description on their web site implies the system is using BGP to
distribute the black list. Assuming this just distributes IP addresses
of web servers hosting questionable content, by blocking those, will
that not block content of
On Wednesday 10 December 2008, Markus Wild wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, since I didn't make it to last SWINOG...
the description on their web site implies the system is using
BGP to distribute the black list. Assuming this just
distributes IP addresses of web servers hosting questionable
Hi
Fredy Kuenzler schrieb:
Peter Keel schrieb:
* on the Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:54:11AM +0100, Marc Hauswirth wrote:
block their Internet access to block pedophile content.
The opposite of good is good intent.
As said earlier, IMHO the authorities should purchase the system for all
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Fredy Kuenzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Peter Keel schrieb:
* on the Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:54:11AM +0100, Marc Hauswirth wrote:
After the presentation of Netclean whitebox at last Swinog
meeting from Pascal Seeger and Grégoire Galland, we are pleased to
* on the Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 05:17:54AM -0800, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
What if a whitebox is hacked, and the intruder can inject new IP addresses
and
get the hold of traffic content? There's a lot of things one could do with
that...
What a nice way to implement drive-by-injections.
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Stanislav Sinyagin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
What if a whitebox is hacked, and the intruder can inject new IP addresses
and
get the hold of traffic content? There's a lot of things one could do with
that...
Like economical/business intelligence (or lack of
Zusammen,
I quote:
@ Andreas
...by using the AntiTerror law...
Please Pony up the clause invoked in this piece of legislation so that we
can observe the context of it - if any. Whatever legislation they used is
not important, it protected a large amount of municipal UK assets. I
wouldn¹t
* on the Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 08:00:20PM +0100, Chris Gravell wrote:
a propensity for binge-drinking,
And how come the UK has much a bigger problem with that than continental
europe? Might the war-time closing times (which are still in effect since
World War I) have something to do with that?
Am Mittwoch, 10. Dezember 2008 11:17 schrieb Fredy Kuenzler:
Peter Keel schrieb:
* on the Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 09:54:11AM +0100, Marc Hauswirth
wrote:
After the presentation of Netclean whitebox at last Swinog
meeting from Pascal Seeger and Grégoire Galland, we are pleased to
announce
Am Mittwoch, den 10.12.2008, 22:10 +0100 schrieb Peter Rohrer:
Btw: It is interesting that the press release doesn't name which
providers are using that WhiteBox. If it is really that great, why
don't they say who is using it?
For me, this would be a reason to change the provider.
--
Mit
Fredy Kuenzler schrieb:
From
http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/785-Netclean-Whitebox-effektive-Methode-gegen-Kinderpornografie-im-Netz.html
Netclean Whitebox funktioniert zweistufig: 1. wird via BGP4 die Liste
der verdächtigen IP Adressen in die Routingtabelle eingepflegt.
Derzeit
On Wednesday 10. December 2008, Chris Gravell wrote:
Sounds perfectly reasonable. This is not censorship of ones¹
right to be. This is an example of criminality and the onus
would be on UBS et al to negate it.
What a new way of interpreting justice. The acused has to
proove its innocence...
i remember 25 years agow i asked an ptt guy, in front of 100 listeners .. why
the hell the cellphone net (a +b) is not at least a bit encrypted ? this way
everyone could follow the conversation... his answer was: there is a simple
solution ... its forbidden to use an receiver on those
I see this like another example of fighting evil at the wrong end.
Of course it is important to fight such content but is filtering websites the
right method ?
I don't think so.
Let be realistic, how many ISPs worldwide are gonna deploy a Whitebox ?
Filtering locally simply means stopping end
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 20:00, Chris Gravell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't have a problem with any technology that blocks objectionable
material that is non-consensual to the overriding majority. It serves no
useful purpose and does not infringe my right to be.
First, there's a right to
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Matthias Leisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It will be interesting to see how fast well-meaning politicians and
paranoid pseudo police-men will want to filter all that nasty illegal
music from the net.
Fully agree.
And how long it will be before such
Filtering locally simply means stopping end users to access illegal sites.
Ok, but the sites are still there and everybody else will still have access !
Yes, but i'm sure that the 'local' netclean box can log IPs of people who
attempted
to access such illegal sites (such as Wikipedia)
So
And how long it will be before such machinery is
mandatory for all ISPs.
The excuse that there is no technical solution is gone - it was a lie
all along the way, and most techies knew.
Hmm it's not a lightly engineered solution. it was not an obvious one.
One thing to consider is that
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