On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:03:00AM +0100, Martin Ebnoether wrote:
On the Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 09:37:30PM +0100, Chris Meidinger blubbered:
Hi.
Whole industries depend on it. Without e-mail my business would be
dead. In todays world communication is a vital issue to the service
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:53:16PM +0100, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote:
Salut,
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:18:08PM +0100, Patrick Tybo wrote:
About the blacklist: tcpdumd/snoop and wireshark: no way, maybe
metasploit on a gray line, mostly 0day stuff floating from irc to email
to email
On Tuesday 24 March 2009, Claudio Jeker wrote:
[..]
What!?! Email is not realtime?
I guess venty meant ansynchronous versus synchromous (..phone
calls, which is the very distinction between them. A three way
handschake to make sure about something over phones ist much
faster. But just to
Am 23.3.2009 17:44 Uhr, Rainer Duffner schrieb:
Instead of educating politicians it would make more sense, if the IT
people would be more involved in politics. The IT industry is doing more
for the GDI (BIP) than the farmers, but unfortunately we are not organized.
We also have no means to
Salut,
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 05:01:08PM +0100, Ihsan Dogan wrote:
Instead of educating politicians it would make more sense, if the IT
people would be more involved in politics. The IT industry is doing more
for the GDI (BIP) than the farmers, but unfortunately we are not organized.
Am 20.3.2009 0:29 Uhr, Tonnerre Lombard schrieb:
For that it would make sense, if we would get in contact with the
political parties. At the moment, it seems that none of the parties in
the parliament have an opinion on this issue.
That is of course also very important. Firstly, politicians
Ihsan Dogan schrieb:
Instead of educating politicians it would make more sense, if the IT
people would be more involved in politics. The IT industry is doing more
for the GDI (BIP) than the farmers, but unfortunately we are not organized.
We also have no means to deliver kilo-gallons
Hi Folks,
I also thought today that even the Schools for IT should position in
this discussion... I will try to reach the BBW Winterthur which I am a
student of (and some apprentices of members of this mailinglist, too
btw)
I will also try to reach the TBZ in this purpose
I think we
On Monday 23 March 2009, Rainer Duffner wrote:
[..]
People can survive without email
I am tempted to doubt that. The reactions to mail outage suggest
the contrary ;-)
have fun,
Michi
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Michael Naef schrieb:
On Monday 23 March 2009, Rainer Duffner wrote:
[..]
People can survive without email
I am tempted to doubt that. The reactions to mail outage suggest
the contrary ;-)
Well, it depends.
I survived a week without email on my holiday.
;-)
But our
On 23.03.2009, at 18:28, Rainer Duffner wrote:
Michael Naef schrieb:
On Monday 23 March 2009, Rainer Duffner wrote:
[..]
People can survive without email
I am tempted to doubt that. The reactions to mail outage suggest
the contrary ;-)
Well, it depends.
I survived a week without
On 23.03.2009, at 21:31, Andreas Fink wrote:
On 23.03.2009, at 18:28, Rainer Duffner wrote:
Michael Naef schrieb:
On Monday 23 March 2009, Rainer Duffner wrote:
[..]
People can survive without email
I am tempted to doubt that. The reactions to mail outage suggest
the contrary ;-)
Well,
Salut,
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:46:12AM +0100, Ihsan Dogan wrote:
Instead of educating politicians it would make more sense, if the IT
people would be more involved in politics. The IT industry is doing more
for the GDI (BIP) than the farmers, but unfortunately we are not organized.
That's
Salut,
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:18:08PM +0100, Patrick Tybo wrote:
About the blacklist: tcpdumd/snoop and wireshark: no way, maybe
metasploit on a gray line, mostly 0day stuff floating from irc to email
to email etc are a real problem.
Can you give me a legal guarantee that tcpdump
Am 18.3.2009 19:43 Uhr, Norbert Bollow schrieb:
I believe that in order to agree to be bound to a treaty of this
type, there must be approval from Ständerat and Nationalrat and the
possibility of a referendum!
For that it would make sense, if we would get in contact with the
political
we have to make sure that they get aware of the issue and that it is a
big concern...
LOBBYING...
On 19.03.2009, at 10:54, Ihsan Dogan wrote:
Am 18.3.2009 19:43 Uhr, Norbert Bollow schrieb:
I believe that in order to agree to be bound to a treaty of this
type, there must be approval from
Salut, Ihsan,
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:54:28 +0100, Ihsan Dogan wrote:
For that it would make sense, if we would get in contact with the
political parties. At the moment, it seems that none of the parties in
the parliament have an opinion on this issue.
That is of course also very important.
* on the Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:36:35AM +0100, Thomas Dagonnier wrote:
It may be an idea to have a look at the treaty they have to implement
: http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Treaties/Html/185.htm
I concur, this treaty is shite. It criminalizes various tools instead
of acts, tries to
Peter Keel seeg...@discordia.ch wrote:
* on the Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:36:35AM +0100, Thomas Dagonnier wrote:
It may be an idea to have a look at the treaty they have to implement
: http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Treaties/Html/185.htm
Shame on whoever came up with this, and on
* on the Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:15:53PM +0100, Norbert Bollow wrote:
* on the Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:36:35AM +0100, Thomas Dagonnier wrote:
It may be an idea to have a look at the treaty they have to implement
: http://conventions.coe.int/Treaty/EN/Treaties/Html/185.htm
Shame on
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* on the Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:15:53PM +0100, Norbert Bollow wrote:
* on the Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 08:36:35AM +0100, Thomas Dagonnier wrote:
It may be an idea to have a look at the treaty they have to implement
: http://conventions.coe.int
Christa Pfister m...@c-pfister.ch wrote:
One important thing to keep in mind is that signatures under
international treaties are *not* a commitment to do what the
treaty says, they are only a declaration of intention to consider for
ratification that particular version of the treaty. That's
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