[swinog] Re: How to destroy data effectively?

2022-12-06 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen via swinog
Martin Ebnoether via swinog wrote:

> Hi all.
> 
> As some of you know, I work at a money laund... financial
> company. Some time ago, the question arose, how to effectively
> destroy data safely and securely in an easy way?

When I worked in money laun... finance myself, in the 1980s, we used
_large_ electromagnets.  



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[swinog] mail.protection.outlook.com said: 451 4.7.500 Server busy. Please try again later

2021-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Does anyone have any idea what sort of rate limits are used by
Office365 ?  We seem to be hitting $SUBJ more and more often, so we
have been scaling back delivery frequencies.  It just seems a bit
random and arbitrary. 



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Re: [swinog] emergency connection with a Huawei GSM modem ?

2018-06-12 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

> A customer with a flooded telephone cable is trying to re-establish
> the internet connection over a GSM modem - the mobile operator is
> Swisscom.
> He is not getting any inbound traffic, e.g. SMTP on port 25.  I was
> just wondering if this might be blocked?

Question answered, many thanks.  Customer isn't much happier, but we're
working on that :-) 


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[swinog] emergency connection with a Huawei GSM modem ?

2018-06-12 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
A customer with a flooded telephone cable is trying to re-establish the
internet connection over a GSM modem - the mobile operator is Swisscom. 
He is not getting any inbound traffic, e.g. SMTP on port 25.  I was
just wondering if this might be blocked? 



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Re: [swinog] PTR records with CNAME ?

2018-05-31 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Tobi wrote:

> Am 30.05.2018 um 17:35 schrieb Per Jessen:
>> Okay, thanks for clarifying that - I was wondering.  I don't why my
>> postfixes come up with host name 'unknown'.
> 
> afaik postfix logs "unknown" as well if it is not a FcrRDNS means the
> hostname retrieved from a PTR query should forward resolve again to
> the ip address.
> 

Yes, that is correct.  Provided postfix works with a PTR with a CNAME,
that bit is okay.  



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Re: [swinog] PTR records with CNAME ?

2018-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Jeroen Massar wrote:

> On 2018-05-30 16:44, Per Jessen wrote:
>> According to RFC1034 and 2181, a PTR record using a CNAME is not
>> permitted.  I believe this to still be correct, postfix certainly
>> doesn't work with a CNAME when it does a reverse lookup.
> 
> Postfix certainly does as:
> 
> $ dig +short 50.131.144.213.in-addr.arpa. ptr
> 50.63-28.131.144.213.in-addr.arpa.
> citadel.ch.unfix.org.
> 
> would otherwise not work and that trick of CNAME'ing in-addr.arpa
> space is used a lot by ISPs to delegate space (as per the above
> example where init7 forwards them to my nameservers).
> 
> There is also a nice RFC on that:
>  https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2317.txt

Okay, thanks for clarifying that - I was wondering.  I don't why my
postfixes come up with host name 'unknown'.


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[swinog] PTR records with CNAME ?

2018-05-30 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
According to RFC1034 and 2181, a PTR record using a CNAME is not
permitted.  I believe this to still be correct, postfix certainly
doesn't work with a CNAME when it does a reverse lookup.  


Any comments?


thanks. 
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Re: [swinog] Bluewin Error: Der MX-Eintrag fuer die Domaene aerni.com kann nicht verifiziert werden

2018-01-12 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Benoit Panizzon wrote:

> Dear List
> 
> Ok, thank you for the replies as they all point out an apparent PTR
> Problem, let me reply to the list.
> 
> According to my knowledge of the DNS rfcs (I did not look it up
> right now).
> 
> A Host resource may point to an A record another host resource is
> already pointing to. A Host resource could also point to multiple A
> records (DNS round robin).
> 
> A in-addr.arpa resource can only point to one PTR record.

In _can_ in fact have multiple, but it makes no sense and usually only
the first one is used. 



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Re: [swinog] UPC Mailservers problems with greylisting

2017-01-04 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Viktor Steinmann wrote:

> On 04.01.2017 08:54, Per Jessen wrote:
>>
>> Is there any point in greylisting genuine mailservers?  We only
>> greylist dodgy-looking setups.
>>
>>
>> /Per
>>
> I don't see how this approach would scale. 

To my knowledge, it scales quite well. We maintain a list of regex
server-name patterns that we consider 'dodgy' as well as a whitelist. 
If a reverse lookup matches one of these patterns, we greylist.  There
are some more checks, e.g. on the HELO, but the reverse mapping is the
main one.  We run this on a cluster of some 45-46 boxes.  The list of
patterns is fairly stable. 


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Re: [swinog] UPC Mailservers problems with greylisting

2017-01-03 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Mike Kellenberger wrote:

> Hi
> 
> We are seeing problems with greylisting in mails coming from UPC
> mailservers. After receiving our "451 Greylisting" response, we never
> see a retry of the mail again. The sender does not receive an NDR. We
> have seen this behaviour from the servers at 84.116.36.xxx. Other
> servers for example the ones in the range 62.179.121.xxx are retrying
> correctly.
> 
> Anybody from UPC here to help sort this out or is anyone else seeing
> the same problem or is no one using greylisting anymore these days?

Is there any point in greylisting genuine mailservers?  We only greylist
dodgy-looking setups. 


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Re: [swinog] hotmail issues since 18/1 ?

2016-01-25 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Gregor Riepl wrote:

>> It is truly weird.  Using the same sender and same path, one email
>> to "some.u...@hotmail.com" is accepted, another
>> to "postmas...@hotmail.com" is rejected.
> 
> They are probably ramping up rejection rates slowly, as suggested
> here: https://dmarc.org/overview/

After I filed a support request with Microsoft, they got back to me
fairly quickly and said one of our IP-ranges was "a candidate for
mitigation".  No other explanation offered.  I don't see this being a
dmarc issue at all, but some sort of internal M$ "reputation list". 

Thanks for everyone's suggestions!


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Re: [swinog] hotmail issues since 18/1 ?

2016-01-22 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

> Hoi zäme
> 
> I have a couple of customers complaining they are unable to send
> emails to hotmail - typically they see rejects such as this:
> 
>> 550 SC-001 (BAY004-MC5F11) Unfortunately, messages from
>> 88.198.198.124 weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service
>> provider since part of their network is on our block list.

It is truly weird.  Using the same sender and same path, one email
to "some.u...@hotmail.com" is accepted, another
to "postmas...@hotmail.com" is rejected. 



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[swinog] hotmail issues since 18/1 ?

2016-01-21 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Hoi zäme

I have a couple of customers complaining they are unable to send emails
to hotmail - typically they see rejects such as this:

> 550 SC-001 (BAY004-MC5F11) Unfortunately, messages from 88.198.198.124
> weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part
> of their network is on our block list.   

It doesn't affect all customers and checking our logs, it appears to
have started 18/1.  Prior to that we had no problems delivering
outbound mails to hotmail, since then I see 149 bounces with the
message above). 

The customers are on dynamic ranges from Swisscom, UPC and e.g. Virgin
(in the UK).  Has anyone seen something similar? 


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Re: [swinog] hotmail issues since 18/1 ?

2016-01-21 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Saverio Proto wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> it could be that you problem is related to DMARC.
> 
> big changes are coming, big email providers like gmail,yahoo and I
> guess also hotmail are implemeting DMARC. Use of Strict DMARC Policies
> will make this big providers reject emails.
> 
>https://dmarc.org/2015/10/global-mailbox-providers-deploying-dmarc-to-protect-users/

The senders have not published any DMARC entries - also, sometimes it
works, sometimes it doesn't. I have just tried sending mails
to "postmas...@hotmail.com" from a couple of our servers at Hetzner,
same error message.  Other messages go through fine.  (28 today sofar).


/Per


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[swinog] UPC rejecting mails as spam?

2015-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Does anyone @UPC happen to know what this means:

host mx.hispeed.ch [213.46.255.2]: 552 5.2.0 rl4b1r00p3kCCMl01l4bgK
automated process detected unsolicited content

The email is being sent from a UPC connection, via Hostpoint
(mail.hostpoint.ch) to a user @swissonline.ch. 

The user has tried getting an explanation from UPC, but sofar no luck. 




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Re: [swinog] IPv6 Business Conference in Zurich, June 18, 2015 - Swinog Member Discount

2015-04-18 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Silvia Hagen wrote:

 Silvia Hagen
 Chair Swiss IPv6 Council

Hi Silvia,

FYI, the website http://www.swissipv6council.ch/ seems to only show a
welcome page (from iway).  On many other pages I get a 404.  For
instance http://www.swissipv6council.ch/en/membership/register


Gruss
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[swinog] Bluewin IP blacklists ?

2015-03-18 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Does anyone happen to know which blacklists Bluewin uses to reject
emails up front?

One of my customers is complaining he is unable to communicate with
Bluewin users:

delivery temporarily suspended: host
mxzhh.bluewin.ch[195.186.227.50] refused to talk to me: 
451 Connection not accepted from blacklisted IP address [74.55.86.74]

The IP address belongs to Webfaction.com, they would like to investigate
the matter.


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Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?

2014-11-13 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

 Per, I propose that first you actually try it before telling. 

Hi Stanislav

you're right, I haven't tried receiving an SMS with Asterisk yet, but do
you see any reason why I shouldn't be able to receive SMS on my fixnet
line (when it's been correctly set up in Asterisk) ? For the last 2-3
years, I have been getting the occasional message read out to me by
Swisscom.


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Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?

2014-11-13 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

 well, last time I tried, it was only possible to send an SMS from a
 Swisscom mobile to a Swisscom fixline. 

We send SMS'es every day the other way, i.e. from fixline to mobile. 
This is via ISDN though.

 SIP providers were out of scope, and non-Swisscom GSM providers were
 too. Probably it's slightly changed, but I don't see any SMS offering
 from any SIP provider in Switzerland.

Sorry, I missed out that this was with SIP. 

I've just reviewed our Asterisk config, and we do have a config for
receiving SMS'es, but it's been inactive for a couple of years. I also
don't see any way of distinguishing between a voice call and an SMS,
but I'll have to look closer.


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Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?

2014-11-13 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:
 
 well, last time I tried, it was only possible to send an SMS from a
 Swisscom mobile to a Swisscom fixline.
 
 We send SMS'es every day the other way, i.e. from fixline to mobile.
 This is via ISDN though.
 
 SIP providers were out of scope, and non-Swisscom GSM providers were
 too. Probably it's slightly changed, but I don't see any SMS offering
 from any SIP provider in Switzerland.
 
 Sorry, I missed out that this was with SIP.
 
 I've just reviewed our Asterisk config, and we do have a config for
 receiving SMS'es, but it's been inactive for a couple of years. I also
 don't see any way of distinguishing between a voice call and an SMS,
 but I'll have to look closer.

Incoming callerid == SMSC.



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Re: [swinog] Virtual numbers for receiving SMS and voice?

2014-11-12 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

 hi all,
 
 I need to have a Swiss phone number which can receive SMS and voice
 calls and forward them to my PBX. I know I can build a gateway with a
 GSM modem, but I'd rather prefer a service from a provider.

Any fixnet line with Asterisk on will also do it. 



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Re: [swinog] Lösung für eine SMS-Notfallalarmierung und Statuswebseite

2014-04-17 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Jeroen Massar wrote:

 On 2014-04-17 10:24 , Andy Christen wrote:
 Grüezi und hoi
 
 Wir suchen für unsere Firma eine Lösung für eine
 SMS-Notfallalarmierung. Leider haben wir für diese Situation kein
 passendes öffentliches Angebot finden können,
 darum gelange ich an die Swinog-Mailingliste und hoffe, dass jemand
 von Ihnen/euch eine annähernd gleiche Lösung für sich selbst oder
 Kunden im Einsatz  hat.

Wir versenden solche Notfallalarmen über Asterisk und das Swisscom fixed
line SMSC.  Alarmen werden als Emails generiert und an unser Asterisk
Server weitergeleitet. Dort werden die in smsq Befehle umgewandelt,
und als Dateien in /var/spool/asterisk/motx/ geschrieben und
automatisch von Asterisk gesendet.


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Re: [swinog] Carrier Grade NAT – A Look at the Tradeoffs

2013-02-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Fabian Wenk wrote:

 Hello
 
 I just stumbled over the article Carrier Grade NAT – A Look at
 the Tradeoffs [1] (from Owen DeLong, Hurricane Electric) at Data
 Center Knowledge. I hope this helps to speed up the deployment of
 IPv6.

I'm still waiting for iWay to provide my company with an IPv6 range on
meifi.net.  Dunno why it is taking them so long. 



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Re: [swinog] New list for jobs

2011-08-23 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Pascal Gloor wrote:

 To answer some little unhappyness from Viktor, Per and Stanislav,
 
 It is to allow more offers to be posted, especially from job-agencies.
 We have done this because we were asked by an agency to regularly post
 on the general list and we refused. 

Okay, that makes a lot more sense.  Perhaps the list would have been
better named jobads :-)



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Re: [swinog] New list for jobs

2011-08-22 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
ro...@mgz.ch wrote:

 well a list doesn't cost anything.
 I think as well a software developer doesn't like his inbox filled up
 with law or ciso tips but maybe is interessted to job offers .. and
 some Tie addicted managers maybe like to offer jobs without read tech
 messages ;) i would say its a enrichment to have that list.

Lists may be cheap, but that is irrelevant.  I second Viktors view -
splitting the group too much only splits/destroys the group.  Besides,
a software developer who does not know how to filter SwiNOG mail into a
separate folder, well ... :-)



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Re: [swinog] Efficient ADSL2 Bridges nowdays

2011-02-02 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Attila Kinali wrote:

 I had a similar problem like you and decided that it is easier
 if i have all together in one box. Thus i got myself a Solos ADSL Card
 from Traverse. They work like a charm in Linux. I guess the support
 for *BSD is equally good. You can get those in europe from kd85.com.

Very nice - doesn't look like they do a VDSL version too?


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Re: [swinog] 6 months logs... no, that's not enough :)

2011-01-18 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Andreas Fink wrote:

 one year is already in law for telecommunication (voice calls, SMS
 etc). My daily headake to keep logs of 3 billion messages

lzma compression plus 3Tb harddrives :-)



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Re: [swinog] SMS from analog modem

2010-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
julien mabillard wrote:

 Hi,
 does anyone here remember or uses an analog modem connected
 to PSTN to send SMS?

We used to use sms_client for that, yes. 

 It is not for GSM modem, but plain old analog modem.
 What were the AT instructions to send?

Nothing inparticular.

 What Swisscom gateway phone number do you use?

I'm using landline SMS'ing now, but otherwise I think it was 
079 499 9000 at 30Rp/SMS.


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Re: [swinog] SMS from analog modem

2010-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 but otherwise I think it was
 079 499 9000 at 30Rp/SMS.

Sorry, the number Mike Kellenberger posted is the correct one. 
sms_client also uses ucp. 


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Re: [swinog] SMS from analog modem

2010-12-10 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
julien mabillard wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 06:02:32AM -0800, Stanislav Sinyagin typed:
 :: why not using a Siemens GSM terminal?
 :: It has the same RS232 port and AT command set, and you don't
 :: need a copper line (you would of course need a SIM card).
 
 I don't get GSM signal reliably from the data center, so I just
 use a couple of left analog lines. :)
 
 But I found sms_client source code archive and I got what I wanted.
 

Julien,

IIRC, we had to fix the code such that the origin phone-number could be
set correctly.  You might not need it, but by adding a digit to the
originating number, we made the mobile phones make different beeps
depending on the type of alert.



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Re: [swinog] The ISP Association: one for all, all for one

2010-10-28 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
JIm Romaguera wrote:

 Hi Pascal,
 
 I'm not saying I'm against your below list - haven't thought about it
 enough yet - but an ISP association seems to imply ISPs - Internet
 Service Providers. Your list might be tending to an Internet
 association (it depends on what so on means I guess). It would be
 good to have an ISP association to stand up for ISPs.
 
 An ISP to me means being obligated to register at BAKOM as a
 telecommunications provider (Registrierung als gemeldete
 Fernmeldedienstanbieterin) *because* one is offering some sort of
 public Internet services. 

AFAIK, the BAKOM obligation applies if you are providing internet
_access_ services.  public Internet services is a much wider
definition. 


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Re: [swinog] reject_unknown_client_hostname

2010-09-30 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Martin Blapp wrote:

   Hi,
 
 Does anybody know whether the Postfix checks
 reject_unknown_client_hostname [aka Reject the request when 1) the
 client IP address-name mapping fails, 2) the name-address mapping
 fails, or 3) the name-address mapping does not match the client IP
 address] follows actually any requirement by a RFC? If so, which one?
 
 To reject any mails with errors 5XX with just ONE criterium is very
 bad behaviour anyway and will always lead to false positives.

hmm, how about unknown user :-) 

Anyway, the default postfix reject for the above is a 450 and always 450
if the failure was caused by a lookup problem.



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Re: [swinog] reject_unknown_client_hostname

2010-09-29 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Juerg Reimann wrote:

 Does anybody know whether the Postfix checks
 reject_unknown_client_hostname [aka Reject the request when 1) the
 client IP address-name mapping fails, 2) the name-address mapping
 fails, or 3) the name-address mapping does not match the client IP
 address] follows actually any requirement by a RFC? If so, which one?

I feel pretty certain it is not according to any RFC.



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Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Viktor Steinmann wrote:

 Um... after only surfing their webpage for 30 seconds I found this:
 
 Aus den Statuten:
 
 Die Stiftung bezweckt, die nötigen Grundlagen für den wirksamen
 Gebrauch moderner Methoden der Teleinformatik im Dienste der Lehre und
 Forschung in der Schweiz zu schaffen, zu fördern, anzubieten, sich an
 solchen zu beteiligen und sie zu erhalten. Die Stiftung verfolgt weder
 kommerzielle Zwecke noch ist sie auf die Realisierung eines Gewinnes
 ausgerichtet.
 (Originalauszug aus der Stiftungsurkunde, Bern, 22. Oktober 1987)
 
 So according to their own documents, they have no commercial interest
 (never laughed so hard).

In their defense, they have lowered the registration fees at least three
times in the last 8-9 years.  That does show some lack of commercial
interest. 



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Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registryswitch/nic.ch

2010-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Xaver Aerni wrote:

 You must see, switch and switchplus are two different company...
 Switch is non profitable. But switchplus could be a comercial company.
 This are two difference companys.

AFAICT, Switchplus AG is a subsidiary of SWITCH and also shares an
address with SWITCH.  They're not all that different. 



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Re: [swinog] SMS provider

2010-06-30 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
li...@rebert.name wrote:

 Dear SWINOG users,
 
 I am looking for a SMSC..
 Does anybody has an experience with one of them ?
 

We used to use the Swisscom GSM number - 0794998990 - but a couple of
months ago, it got unstable, so I took another look. Now we're using
the regular landline SMSC 062210, which works very well. 



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Re: [swinog] SMS provider

2010-06-30 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Benoit Panizzon wrote:

 Hello
 
 We used to use the Swisscom GSM number - 0794998990 - but a couple of
 months ago, it got unstable, so I took another look. Now we're using
 the regular landline SMSC 062210, which works very well.
 
 But you can only send SMS if you're a swisscom customer, so they can
 charge the SMS on your invoice.

True. 

 I belive glue.ch still offers TSP independent SMSSC Services if you
 regster at them.

Judging by http://www.swiss-sms-center.ch/, Swisscom is cheaper :-)



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Re: [swinog] Urgent request to clear DNS cache for cablecom.net

2010-06-11 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Tissieres, Jerome wrote:

 From behind SWITCH; www.cablecom.ch is not known and www.cablecom.net
 goes to a godaddy sponsor page.
 I've tried with VTX DNS, same.
  
 From Google (8.8.8.8) it seems better.
  
 I didn't read the press, what's happened?
 

http://news.community36.net/redirect/?id=3598



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[swinog] swisscom smsc 0794998990

2010-05-13 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Since the beginning of March, we seem to have been having trouble
sending SMS'es via this service-number - judging from the phone-bill,
the connection IS established, but then times out after 64 seconds and
no message is sent.  Has anyone else been having such problems?



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Re: [swinog] Geolocating IP's

2010-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stefan Renner wrote:

 hello everybody
 
 Is anybody of you aware, how the most popular services (Google,
 Zattoo, Facebook, etc) are matching geographic locations to
 ip-adresses?

So far, the most accurate data I've seen are from countries.nerd.dk -
whether they use that, I don't know.



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Re: [swinog] dirt cheap netbook at Mediamarkt

2010-02-03 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

 So, it's a pretty great value for money. Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.10
 installed smoothly from flash drive, and everything works out of the
 box. Skype, Adobe flash, video codecs were downloaded smoothly and
 worked like charm. I was pretty surprised by the quality of a modern
 Linux UI. At the back of my mind I still considered it as a server
 platform :)

Gee, Stanislav - KDE3 has been very solid for at least 3-4 years.  I've
been using nothing else since 2005 or thereabouts.


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Re: [swinog] Debian vs. Ubuntu

2010-01-31 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Peter Keel wrote:

 * on the Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 01:36:52PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
 AFAICT from that list, you'd be fine on openSUSE too.  Still, nothing
 wrong with untar+config+make :-)
 
 Yes, very wrong. Maintainability goes trough the floor. Or are you
 sure not to miss a security-relevant update in an insignificant
 program like tar? Or any other program or library which might be a
 dependancy of the software you're compiling?

When you know what you're doing, I don't see a problem. 


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Re: [swinog] Debian vs. Ubuntu

2010-01-30 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

 hi Benjamin, long time no see :)
 
 Ubuntu was the only OS distribution where all Torrus pre-requisites
 were available as packages:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/yeoxv47
 
 everywhere else one needs to compile a few things from sources.

AFAICT from that list, you'd be fine on openSUSE too.  Still, nothing
wrong with untar+config+make :-)

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Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Alexandre Egger wrote:

 By the way, that comes straight from DECIX people. Remind me that is
 DECIX? ;) That would be silly if they wouldn't try to sell their
 services undirectly in some ways... To me it sounds a but like would
 if it would be some brand of class clothes saying dress well to sign
 better contracts ads.

dress well to sign better contracts - it's not bad advice. 


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Re: [swinog] Spam and IPv6 (Was: killer app for IPv6)

2009-11-10 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Jeroen Massar wrote:

 Though I really do
 not see why one would want to block the countries where great tech
 comes from. Just use an RBL, and solely use it for scoring

Really useful stuff such as rbldnsd does not yet support IPv6 for
listings.


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Re: [swinog] language?

2009-08-01 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Steven Glogger wrote:

 if there's a discussion starting in german, and someone is asking for
 english it would be only polite to try to switch to english...

+1

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Re: [swinog] Google Safe Browsing vs DNS TCP reply

2009-07-09 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Guy Baconniere wrote:

 When the query reaches the DNS of the ISP it will reply with a DNS TCP
 reply if minimal-responses is no (default on Bind9) or with a small
 UDP DSN reply if minimal-responses is yes.

I can't quite see how that would be correct.  When a resolver issues a
query with UDP, it will expect a reply (minimal or not) via UDP.  Only
if it does not get a useful answer via UDP will it change and try a TCP
query. 

 I recommend that all ISP use minimal-responses yes or equivalent on
 their DNS server. This will save bandwidth and avoid DNS TCP reply to
 be blocked in a Firewall in the path.

When the client has issued a TCP query, any half-way decent firewall
will know not to block the reply.


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Re: [swinog] Request for school presentation on the internet

2009-07-02 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Norbert Bollow wrote:

 Hi,
   my 13 year old son will be giving a talk tomorrow in school
 about the internet.  He has decided to focus in the talk on
 the technical side, like fundamental principles of how DNS
 resolution works.  He has asked me if I could help him find
 some datacenter-type equipment that he can show off to the
 other students in his class.  For example some rackmount
 device and a bit of optical fibre, if possible.  There is no
 need for the stuff to be in working order.

No problem Norbert, give me a call. 



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Re: [swinog] Vista has broken RR DNS - comments?

2009-03-05 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Jeroen Massar wrote:

 Michael Krygier wrote:
 Any comments about what Drplokta wrote on his blog about Windows
 Vista implementing RFC3484 and breaking Round Robin DNS?
 
 It does *NOT* break Round Robin DNS, it breaks the assumption what
 people make when they setup their DNS in that manner. Slight
 difference ;)

It's old news - glibc also implemented rfc3484 in getaddrinfo(), which I
reported to novell in dec2007, and which was previous reported in
debian.

 Clients running Vista and where you have a Round-Robin DNS setup where
 the prefixes are very different will now hit the 'closest' prefix
 instead of a random one like most implementations of DNS resolvers,
 that is at first hit, when the connection to the first one fails they
 will fall back to the next closest one. If you have your hosts on the
 same subnet you won't notice the difference.

You won't get any load-distribution either. 


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Re: [swinog] IPV6 Go (lazy providers)

2009-02-26 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Nicolas Strina wrote:

 Ok the hw is quite important but
 well .. I see lots of CPE able to do the job even on DSL.
 

Nico, which manufacturers do you have in mind? 


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Re: [swinog] WG: login banner

2009-01-30 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Tonnerre Lombard wrote:

 Salut, Michael,
 
 On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:32:25 +0100, Michael Naef wrote:
 http://aeolus.ch/home/blog.php#Idioten%20Signaturen
 
 What's the problem with these disclaimers in signatures?
 
 Tonnerre
 
 DISCLAIMER: IF YOU RECEIVE THIS EMAIL IN ERROR, YOU ARE HEREBY LEGALLY
 OBLIGED TO PHYSICALLY DESTROY ALL MEDIA WHICH EVER CONTAINED THE MAIL
 (HARD DISKS, MEMORY, ETC. OF BOTH THE WORKSTATION AND THE MAIL
 SERVERS), ALONG WITH ALL MATERIAL USED TO TRANSFER, LIQUIDATE ANY
 COWORKERS WHICH MIGHT HAVE HAD A GLANCE OF THE EMAIL (ESPECIALLY THE
 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS), AND RASP YOUR HEAD OFF WITH A VERY FINE
 GRATER.

For starters, they're barely readable when they're in all-caps :-)

My personal favourite is:

By sending email to me or to a mailing list to which I subscribe, and
appending more than 4 lines of legalese at the end, you are expressly
permitting me to use your email and others coming from your domain as I
see fit; by posting you are accepting that your long legally sounding
signature is invalid.



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Re: [swinog] trouble to reach a DNS-server from a single network in switzerland

2008-11-12 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stephan Wolf wrote:

 Please do me a favor:
 try from your datacenter to resolve via this DNS
 Default server: ns1.allytech.com
 Address: 200.49.145.101#53
 
 to resolve
 mail.rebel-management.com
 

Local lookup:

dig mail.rebel-management.com

worked fine.

dig @ns1.allytech.com. mail.rebel-management.com

also worked fine.

dig @ns2.allytech.com. mail.rebel-management.com

also worked fine.


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[swinog] Could someone from Swisscom/Cybernet contact me off-line?

2008-10-27 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
We're having a problem delivering mails to a Cybernet hosted exchange
server.


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Re: [swinog] Could someone from Swisscom/Cybernet contact me off-line?

2008-10-27 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 We're having a problem delivering mails to a Cybernet hosted exchange
 server.
 

All sorted.  Thanks. 


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Re: [swinog] RBL's (again) (Was: Anyone from Green here?)

2008-10-17 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Tonnerre Lombard wrote:

 Salut, Marco,
 
 On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:22:39 +0200, Marco wrote:
 fully agreed. thats a bad argument against greylisting. if php
 scripts or other webserver stuff, like newsletter servers, etc.. use
 their own MTA which is most likely a fancy carp script, as you said,
 then its actually not the ISPs problem if a mail won't get delivered.
 
 Technically, this is perfectly right, and personally I would like to
 see everyone writing such scripts burn in hell. But if your users
 insist on receiving the mail, you will either have to disable
 greylisting or to get a better set of customers.

Another option is to disable greylisting just for that one mailserver.  


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Re: [swinog] RBL's (again) (Was: Anyone from Green here?)

2008-10-17 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Tonnerre Lombard wrote:

 Salut, Per,
 
 On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:47:48 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
 Another option is to disable greylisting just for that one
 mailserver.
 
 This implies that either you know all servers hosting broken scripts
 (NP-complete I think) or your customers will always communicate
 problems. Usually they encounter them and rant about it on their
 Stammtisch and then change provider to someone with one hell of a lot
 of SPAM.

Very true - I guess we're fortunate that our customers do tell us about
such problems.  We actively maintain a list of not-to-be-greylisted
servers, plus of course we do auto-whitelisting. 



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Re: [swinog] open source illusions (was: Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?))

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Tonnerre Lombard wrote:

 Salut, Per,
 
 On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:01:24 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
 fixing something yourself is also pretty much an illusion, except for
 those few people who are sufficiently involved.  When have you last
 _had_ to fix anything yourself in a stable release of any open source
 project?
 
 Being a member of the security scene, I write patches for Open Source
 software almost every day. And what about you?
 

I am 99% an open source _user_, and I have only written very few
patches.  Which proves my point, I think. 



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Re: [swinog] open source illusions

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Silvan Gebhardt wrote:

 I guess it's not about Fixing but also expanding
 
 small example: I use a extension to my gnome panel called SSH Menu
 
 
 I can add hosts which it opens me a ssh session in a terminal just by
 clicking on the menu entry.
 
 now I wanted to expand that to include RDP Sessions - okay - took the
 code, and have it rewritten.
 so that IS actually an advantage! and I did not have to consult the
 developers at all, I just checked out the code

Sure, this is very possible with open source, and it's certainly one of
the advantages - nonetheless, most open source users still do not make
use of this possibility.  Which is why it is mostly an illusion.


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[swinog] open source illusions (was: Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?))

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Tonnerre Lombard wrote:

 I think that the advantage of Open Source does indeed lie in the fact
 that you have the ability to fix things yourself, 

Hi Tonnerre

fixing something yourself is also pretty much an illusion, except for
those few people who are sufficiently involved.  When have you last
_had_ to fix anything yourself in a stable release of any open source
project? 


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Re: [swinog] open source illusions

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Marc Balmer wrote:

 actually indent(1), a program to indent and format C program source
 bears a copyright from 1976:
 
  * Copyright (c) 1976 Board of Trustees of the University of Illinois.
 
 32 years.  And still useful.  And this is the oldest copyright I could
 find in an operating system (OpenBSD) that still ships today.

You probably don't have the access anywhere, but try looking at IBMs TPF
and you'll find stuff dating back to the early sixties.  Surprisingly,
TPF has always been open source - for license holders. 


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Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-06 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Jeroen Massar wrote:

 And of course, with Open Source: did you check every single line of
 the source, and that of the compiler, and all the tools that that was
 made with etc etc etc? Ah, indeed you didn't, thus please don't claim
 that Open Source is more secure because you have the source,
 because it is impossible to check.

The idea of open source is not so much that you get to check it
yourself, but much more that it is open for hundreds of thousands of
other people to check.  If for instance the quality/security of a piece
of code is proportional to the number of times it's been reviewed, then
yes, open source is quite possibly more secure. 


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[swinog] Anyone from Green here?

2008-09-11 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
One of my customers has just been told he needs to pay to get a DNS
reverse map entry for thei Green ADSL line with fixed IP.
Is that really true?? 


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Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?

2008-09-11 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Marc SCHAEFER wrote:

 On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
 One of my customers has just been told he needs to pay to get a DNS
 reverse map entry for thei Green ADSL line with fixed IP.
 Is that really true??
 
 I had a similar query lately, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied that
 with MPS1 (1 IP address) they won't do it, they will do it only for
 MPS8 and with a delegation.

That's the answer my customer got too.

 
 That's a pity, but it's how marketing works.

It's not only very poor marketing, it's incredibly arrogant. Selling a
static IP and then charging extra for the reverse mapping ...


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Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?

2008-09-11 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

 Anyway, who's going to send email directly from a broadband
 connection, instead of using the ISP's relay? :-)
 

Provided everything is properly set up, why shouldn't they? 



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Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?

2008-09-11 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote:

 If the reverse mapping points to some valid A record, why
 do you need to change it?

In this case, the reverse lookup returns something like 

zux000-nnn-nnn.adsl.green.ch. 

The customer is (quite reasonably) running a mailserver on it, and would
like the reverse mapping to be set up properly. 


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Re: [swinog] name-server slowdown?

2008-07-16 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Claudio Jeker wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:44:46AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
 Starting Monday this week, we've seen a significant delays and
 timeouts
 on our upstream name-servers.  We saw something similar on our
 Hetzner servers, but it seems to have gone away now. Has anyone else
 seen/experienced name-server issues in the last 2-3 days?
 
 I know about the BIND patch from last week, could that somehow be
 involved?
 
 
 Not sure if this is your problem but the bind patch was released
 mostly untested. The new mode allocates tons of filedescriptors and
 fails in various freaky ways. The result is delayed resolving and
 various other failures plus an increased load on the nameserver
 itself.

Thanks, that sounds very possible - I'll have to check with the guys
running the upstream servers.



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Re: [swinog] Has Bluewin a DNS Problem

2008-03-26 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Franco Hug wrote:

 Step 1:
 ==
 Bluewin does a reverse DNS lookup on your IP (195.141.232.78),
 which returns the following:
 
 # nslookup
 195.141.232.78
 ;; Truncated, retrying in TCP mode.
 Server: www.multipop.ch.
 Address:195.141.232.253#53
 
 78.232.141.195.in-addr.arpa name = mailhost.aa795.ch.
 78.232.141.195.in-addr.arpa name = mailhost.aerni.net.

plus another 20 hosts 

This is a silly reverse setup.  A reverse lookup should only return one
hostname, not 20. 


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RE: [swinog] Has Bluewin a DNS Problem

2008-03-26 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Kurt A. Schumacher wrote:

 ...
 This is a silly reverse setup.  A reverse lookup should only return
 one hostname, not 20.
 ...
 
 Well, tend to agree.
 
 What about the most stupid wanabe Spam-fighter which are very unhappy
 as in place (e.g. the third-party service provider systems acting with
 some SC subsidiaries...) which high rate valid messages if certain
 brain-dead conditions like PTR not matching MX don't match?

Trying to work around them with a dodgy DNS setup is not the right
course of action, IMHO.

 If this approach works out, it could be considered. It is not illegal.

Correct - it's just silly and it doesn't work as expected.

1) a properly working resolver library will return multiple records
rotated once for every lookup, so you're never guaranteed to get the
same answer to a reverse lookup.
2) most applications, e.g. mail-servers, that do reverse lookups do not
expect more than one reply, and will always only process the first one. 

 It's just against what we are used to over the last 20+ years.  

Plus it doesn't work. 



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RE: [swinog] VDSL/Zyxel P2802 HWL not strong enough for a small company LAN?

2008-03-05 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Olivier Mueller wrote:

 
 I see no traffic peaks, just these disconnects...
 

If it's any help to you - we've also been seeing many disconnects in the
last 1-2 weeks.  Not on VDSL, just plain ADSL.  Typically every day we
would have 3-4 quick disconnects during the night, then maybe a few in
the morning too.  It has stopped since the weekend I think. 


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Re: [swinog] anyone from netstream (netvs.ch) listening here?

2008-02-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 We've got a customer whose emails (from other people but filtered by
 us) are frequently being rejected by Netstreams harsh SPF-check.  I've
 asked Netstream to add our servers to their whitelist, but nothing has
 happened.

I was just wondering - 

1) how many of you guys use SPF to reject emails when the SPF-check
returns '-all' ?
2) have a list of exceptions for the above?


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Re: [swinog] anyone from netstream (netvs.ch) listening here?

2008-02-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Daniel Roethlisberger wrote:

 Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-02-05:
 We've got a customer whose emails (from other people but filtered by
 us) are frequently being rejected by Netstreams harsh SPF-check. 
 I've asked Netstream to add our servers to their whitelist, but
 nothing has happened.
 
 As a more generic alternative, you could implement SRS in order to
 handle forwarding in an ``SPF compliant'' way.  This will fix the
 problem for all receivers which use SPF for scoring or rejection.

We have been thinking about SRS for a while - I'm wondering if  SRS
is safe for mailservers that don't implement SPF/SRS?  (I'll do my
research anyway, but just in case you know right away).



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Re: [swinog] anyone from netstream (netvs.ch) listening here?

2008-02-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 We have been thinking about SRS for a while - I'm wondering if  SRS
 is safe for mailservers that don't implement SPF/SRS?  (I'll do my
 research anyway, but just in case you know right away).

Looking at the status of libsrs2, I'm not very impressed.  Also, we're a
postfix site, and postfix seems to be very poorly supported wrt SRS. 



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[swinog] anyone from netstream (netvs.ch) listening here?

2008-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
We've got a customer whose emails (from other people but filtered by us)
are frequently being rejected by Netstreams harsh SPF-check.  I've
asked Netstream to add our servers to their whitelist, but nothing has
happened. 


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Re: [swinog] sms_client originator patch

2008-01-30 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 it's a very simple patch:
 http://jessen.ch/files/smsclient-originator-patch

Wow.  That was obviously a very sought-after patch.  Since my posting, 
my weblog has about 60 unique IP-addresses for just this patch :-)



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Re: [swinog] sms_client originator patch

2008-01-29 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Andre Keller wrote:

 Hi swinoggers
 
 I'm searching for a possibility to set the originator in sms_client...
 (somewhere in ucp.c i asume).
 
 I saw in the mailinglist of smsclient, that Per Jessen wrote about
 that in August 2004. Are these patches still around?

Yep, I've still got it somewhere.  Give me a couple of minutes to find
it. 




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Re: [swinog] sms_client originator patch

2008-01-29 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 it's a very simple patch:
 http://jessen.ch/files/smsclient-originator-patch

Correction:

http://jessen.ch/patches/smsclient-originator-patch



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Re: [swinog] sms_client originator patch

2008-01-29 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 Andre Keller wrote:
 
 Hi swinoggers
 
 I'm searching for a possibility to set the originator in
 sms_client... (somewhere in ucp.c i asume).
 
 I saw in the mailinglist of smsclient, that Per Jessen wrote about
 that in August 2004. Are these patches still around?
 
 Yep, I've still got it somewhere.  Give me a couple of minutes to find
 it.

Andre,

it's a very simple patch:
http://jessen.ch/files/smsclient-originator-patch

Just change the from to whatever number you need. 



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Re: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Mike Kellenberger wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Anbody else having problems to reach large websites, such as
 www.microsoft.com or www.dell.com? Problems in or to the akamai
 network?

I've been unable to get to www.dell.ch since sometime yesterday at
least.

 

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Re: AW: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Mike Kellenberger wrote:

 was ok a few minutes ago, now the problem is back...
 

Access to dell.ch, ikea.com and sf.tv are now all fine from here
(easynet).



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[swinog] Some of you might agree with this

2008-01-21 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
I have just read and signed the online petition:

   Use free standards

hosted on the web by PetitionOnline.com, the free online petition
service, at:

   http://www.PetitionOnline.com/lortow3/

I personally agree with what this petition says, and I think you might
agree, too.  If you can spare a moment, please take a look, and consider
signing yourself.


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Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-17 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Claus v. Wolfhausen wrote:

 Perhaps you don't know that i took over the UCEPROTECT-Project in
 June 2007, so if you had any problems with UCEPROTECT some
 years ago, then you had differences with my predecessor and not with
 me.
 
 Many things have changed here since i am responsible for the project.

It does seem somewhat problematic that you would list someone for having
a poorly configured auto-responder.  How does that fit in with the
blacklist policy for Level1? 


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Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-17 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote:

 This has been a known problem for a long time already:

http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=gpstechnik.chsubmitted=1033063711table=abuse
 
 Sometimes I'm tempted to use rfc-ignorant.org as a blacklist.

I know you won't, but be careful anyway - whois.rfc-ignorant also lists
165 TLDs (.dk, .de, .eu ...) due to no WHOIS server or incomplete data
in server.  


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Re: [swinog] green.ch rogue?

2007-12-04 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Bernhard Schmidt wrote:

 Hello everyone,
 
 we (AS12816, LRZ Leibniz Computing Centre Munich, a regional network
 for scientific and educational entities in the Munich area) are being
 hit by regular spamruns originated from 80.253.80.0/24 for several
 months now. This network belongs to

We have seen the same throughout November, but nothing since 30nov.

 Unfortunately they are not listed on major RBLs yet because most of
 them seem not to accept submissions but rather rely on their own
 spamtraps.
 I've done some survey among the DENOG users and found that while some
 of the users have no hit at all, other destinations are heavily
 targetted. Users outside of the german speaking area don't seem to be
 affected at all. I'm trying to find a way to submit them to Spamhaus
 (which we have a paid feed for), but this might take some time.

We use greylisting, which took care of all of it. 



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Re: [swinog] gprs01.swisscom-mobile.ch. - 193.247.250.1

2007-11-28 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Benoit Panizzon wrote:

 They know perfectly well that masses of spam are being sent via gprs
 and that their ip is well blacklisted.

I was pretty certain that was the case.  Thanks.



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Re: [swinog] zyxel 2802 as bridge

2007-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Flavio Tischhauser wrote:

 On Nov 21, 2007 7:56 PM, Silvan Gebhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 hello swinog
 has anyone collected experience with a zyxel 2802 ROuter used as
 modem (mode bridge)?

 I can't get it to work, with routing it finally works, but as bridge
 with my old good pfsense it won't work

 
 Have you tried contacting studerus support? They are very fast and
 extremely helpful.

Yep, Studerus is good, but Zyxel is not always so good.  Not always -
I've been waiting for more than three years for a permanent fix for a
Zyxel ADSL router.  :-(


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[swinog] cybernet/swisscom - anti-spam measures and blacklists

2007-11-14 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Is anyone else getting emails rejected by cybernet/Swisscom with this
message:

2007-11-14T09:54:49+0100 louiswu72 postfix1/error[8302]: 1FD0D2B0FA:
to=nn, relay=none, delay=2.4, delays=2.4/0/0/0.01,
dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: host
mail.-.ch[212.90.199.8] refused to talk to me: 421-We are not
currently accepting connections from 88.198.198.123. 421-Reason for
temporary block: sending us spam 421 Please try again later. We're
terminating this connection now.)



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Re: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist (Update)

2007-11-13 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Markus Wild wrote:

 UCE Protect is one of those lists who suffer from a very odd sense of
 reality.. whoever uses that list to protect his mail servers must be
 aware that he'll get a lot of false positives (ie.valid mail won't get
 thru). 

No-one is likely to use uceprotect level3 to block emails, but they
might very well use it for scoring. 


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Re: [swinog] poor routing and VoIP latency issues

2007-11-13 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Mario Iseli wrote:

 Hi list :)
 
 Please try to use more significant subjects for the threads here... 

ACK.



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RE: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist -- join the club

2007-11-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Charles Buckley wrote:

 And then there is SORBS, which the ETH use, who have chosen to put the
 shared server I use for mail on a blacklist for some reason.

mail.mauto.com is indeed listed by sorbs - I would check that your
server hasn't been compromised.  Look for traces of an ssh brute force
attack perhaps. 

 Everyone is going crazy about security, so you're likely to see a
 proliferation of providers offering to maintain blacklists, who will
 do it badly.

There is already plenty of such lists - I don't think the number is
likely to grow a awful lot.  

 Much better would be to let the users determine what is spam and what
 is not, getting the ISP out of the role of having to play judge on a
 topic they don't master.

Nah, leave the spam-filtering to us :-)
The user and the ISP both have better things to do.



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RE: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist -- join the club

2007-11-07 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 Charles Buckley wrote:
 
 And then there is SORBS, which the ETH use, who have chosen to put
 the shared server I use for mail on a blacklist for some reason.
 
 mail.mauto.com is indeed listed by sorbs - I would check that your
 server hasn't been compromised.  Look for traces of an ssh brute force
 attack perhaps.

Uh, sorry - I overlooked that you said shared.  Well, according to
SORBS, the server got listed because mail was sent to a spamtrap on 13
August.  It could be one of your co-sharers ...  if I were you, I'd
talk to q-x.ch, and ask them what they're doing about it.



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Re: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist

2007-11-04 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Peter Keel wrote:

 * on the Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 02:00:15PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
 I would be interested to know why you find UCEprotect to be
 unreliable and unprofessional?
 
 Because of their delisting-procedure. How many networks will end
 up in there which have been sending spam at some time, but don't
 ever sent spam since then, because their admins fixed the problem,
 or the net got reassigned or whatever? 

UCEprotect level1 and -2 both include automatic delisting.  Only level3
does not seem to have automatic delisting.  

 With UCEprotect, I estimate about 30% of their entries being
 listed are such false positives, and this will of course raise
 and raise..

I ran some stats on our traffic (we use UCEprotect 1,2,3) for all
of october - false positives per level:

level1 = 0.75%
level2 = 2.06%
level3 = 0.96%  (we have been using level3 experimentally for the last
third of october)

false positive = non-spam email sent by levelX listed server.


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Re: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist

2007-11-04 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Xaver Aerni wrote:

 Is possible in the international Trafic you have less false positives.
 But here in Switzerland is it possble till 30 % false possitives
 Mails.
 

Hello Xaver

I have not looked at how much traffic we have coming from Sunrise (for
example), but you're right - if we had lots of Sunrise traffic, we
would also see more FPs from UCEprotect level3.  From our point of
view, it wouldn't change  much as we only allocate 0.4 points for a
level3 hit. 

I don't have any stats on how much international vs. how much Swiss
traffic we have.  Interesting question - I'll have to look into that.


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Re: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist

2007-11-03 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Daniel Kamm wrote:

 On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 21:46 +0100, Marco Meile wrote:
 We have some Problems with the UCEProtect.net blacklist.
 
 We considered UCEprotect as absolutely unreliable and unprofessional
 and are ignoring listings there. And I think so are 'the big swiss
 ones'. 

Hi Daniel,

I would be interested to know why you find UCEprotect to be unreliable
and unprofessional?  

 IMO any postmaster who blockes mails upon one blacklist entry is ...
 (what was that polite description of moron?) ;)

There is no shortage of incompetent postmasters and mail-admins. :-(



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Re: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist

2007-11-03 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Xaver Aerni wrote:

 Wy is unproffesional,
 UCEprotect is blocking AS I think this isn't proffesional. 

Actually, UCEprotect is not blocking anything.  They only provide the
means for other people to do so.  Anyone who uses UCEprotect level3
have been duly warned. 


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Re: [swinog] Kennt jemand das Uceprotect Spamliste

2007-10-21 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Xaver Aerni wrote:

 Did someone know the http://www.uceprotect.net/en/
 I find it verry strong that they are blocking a complete AS in the
 Spam list. At the Moment is the Sunrise AS Blocked.

It would be more correct to say that they are _listing_ an entire AS -
after all, they're not blocking anything. 

We use uceprotect level1 and -2, but not for blocking, only scoring.


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Re: [swinog] Eines der ersten Urteile gegen Spamer ist draussen

2007-09-04 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Elvis Altherr wrote:

 Ok i agree to fight against spammers, but this is only a fight against
 windmills (it's my personel oppion)

Perhaps to some degree - but in Denmark for instance, similar
legislation has already led to heavy fines for a number of companies.
Most recently a distributor got fined SFr5000 for sending out 5000
email invitations.  (to existing or former customers).



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Re: [swinog] Skype

2007-08-17 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Xaver Aerni wrote:

 Sorry Yann,
 It isn't only the difference between Skype and Telco.
 Whe have had internal an old TVA (mechanic). Since 1 Year we have a
 Siemens Hicom system. The old is now running by my brother. and it is
 working fine. (since 10 years now)
 The Hicom, has everytimes problemes. Sometime the Phones doesn't ring
 etc.

We moved to an Aastra box just before Christmas last year. Not a big
one, 10-12 extensions. 
Before then end of January I had shifted everything to a box running
Asterisk.  Far more flexible.



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Re: [swinog] SMS alerting solution

2007-08-03 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote:

 Yes, that would be interesting - according to aspsms.ch:
 
 ASPSMS allows you to send SMS over the TCP/IP protocol from any
 program that can use ActiveX/OLE components ...
 
 We can't do ActiveX, but a command line php client would be quite
 useful.


never mind, I've just found their email interface:

http://www.aspsms.com/smtp/



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Re: [swinog] SMS alerting solution

2007-08-03 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Patrick Feisthammel wrote:

   http://www.aspsms.ch/instruction/prices.asp
 
 They provide also a webservice interface which is very easy to use.
 A plus: reports about successful delivery of the sms.
 
 I can give you a perl and php client example which works with aspsms,
 if you are interested.

Yes, that would be interesting - according to aspsms.ch: 

ASPSMS allows you to send SMS over the TCP/IP protocol from any program
that can use ActiveX/OLE components ...

We can't do ActiveX, but a command line php client would be quite
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Re: [swinog] spamhaus.org

2007-06-23 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Roger Buchwalder wrote:

 b] I don't unterstand admins who trust any lists 100%
 [(I _was_ one of them) 

Agree - the only lists I trust 100% are my own. 

 c] I don't unterstand why _Spam_haus take care 
 [about phishing (how about Phishinghaus?)

Well, maybe they're geting bored and needed to think of something else
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