Re: [Sword-TAP] Key Changes and Justifications
Apologies for the event spam post, but below is a related effort in terms of dealing with scholarly systems. I plan on attending and just wondering if anyone else might be going? Perhaps an opportunity for an informal chat about SWORD or rather all things 'beyond PDF'? /dff > -Original Message- Details are firming up for the ScholarlyHTML BtPDF hackfest in Cambridge on March12/13 and afterwards. For details follow the web page http://www-pmr.ch.cam.ac.uk/wiki/Scholarly_HTML One main thrust of the hackfest will be to create a "data journal" initially based on crystallography but extensible to other areas of science where objects can be created in semantic form. I have blogged this - see: http://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2011/03/04/scholarly-html-hackfest-and-visit-of-peter-sefton-and-martin-fenner/ Here is the gist: The general plan is to CREATE something during the time that Peter Sefton is here. PS runs a world class team in University of Southern Queensland which has created a proven Open toolset based on WordPress for high quality scholarly documents (e.g. course materials, papers, theses). Martin has likewise pioneered many plugins for WordPress. We shall invite Peter and Martin to give presentations (but this will need to be on a weekday) The theme is Scholarly HTML with particular emphasis on data publication. It is to give authors the freedom to author as they wish, not as they are constrained but the recipient. A consequence is that all data should be semantic (i.e. understandable by machine). This means that bitmaps such as PNG should be replaced or augmented by - say - SVG or HTML5. Much of the impetus for the meeting came from "Beyond the PDF" run by Phil Bourne and Anita de Waard. In general we would like to be able to publish: * Semantic (mainly rectangular) tables where columns have defined semantics * Semantic graphs where axes are semantic and points, lines, bars etc are first-class objects * Maths (MathML) * Semantic bibliography (technically solved, but we'd like to include online OPEN resources (e.g. from Open Bibliography) * Scalable diagrams (probably SVG) * Chemistry/crystallography as CML There will be many ideas but as a focus we have come up with a unifying project. After discussion with Simon Hodson (JISC) and Brian McMahon (IUCr) we plan to implement the following idea in our JISCXYZ project and to start this during the hackfest. (Simon and Brian hope to be present for some of the time). A data-journal for crystallography Every week Crystaleye aggregates (automatically) a few hundred structures and creates fully semantic CML. These are currently published as HTML pages with embedded CML and PNGs (http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/crystaleye) . A typical page (there are ca 250,000) is http://wwmm.ch.cam.ac.uk/crystaleye/summary/acta/c/2008/01-00/data/av3113/av3113sup1_I/av3113sup1_I.cif.summary.html (you can twiddle the molecule and create the unit cell by clicking). We wish to create a "data publication" from this material. The proposed data journal will automatically select ca 10 interesting structures per week and publish these as a Scholarly HTML blog. The hackfest will educate us to the best ways of representing these as Scholarly HTML and allowing the best modes of presentation. Because we shall be using a blog readers can comment on these structures using the blog mechanism and also add their own ideas about interesting structures that we have not included. In this way we hope to build up a sense of publication and comment. There is also the possibility for readers to submit their own structures which will be automatically validated during the submission process. We'll work very closely with the IUCr during this. We can add to the interest by having ranking tables for authors or contributors and having various "records" such as largest structure. All are welcome. It's hands-on. Let us know if you are interested. P. -- Peter Murray-Rust Reader in Molecular Informatics Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry University of Cambridge CB2 1EW, UK +44-1223-763069 -- What You Don't Know About Data Connectivity CAN Hurt You This paper provides an overview of data connectivity, details its effect on application quality, and explores various alternative solutions. http://p.sf.net/sfu/progress-d2d ___ Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app-techadvisorypanel
Re: [Sword-TAP] Key Changes and Justifications
FWIW I wrote a post comparing (very superficially) CMIS/GData/SWORD: http://oapeon.blogspot.com/2011/01/cmis-vs-google-documents-api-vs-sword.html All the best, Tim. On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:19:35 -, Stuart Lewis wrote: > Hi Ed, > > On 26/01/2011, at 7:31 AM, Ed Summers wrote: > >> Do we have a tracker for tracking any of these issues? Are we planning >> on starting up some regular skype calls to discuss them? I'm finding >> it a bit hard to track the discussion. > > We're hoping to get a blog post written in the next few days summarizing > the key points that need agreeing. Perhaps then, if a few people are > interested, we could arrange a Skype call to try and come to some > decisions. > > Thanks, > > > Stuart > -- > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better > price-free! > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d > ___ > Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app-techadvisorypanel -- All the best, Tim. -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app-techadvisorypanel
Re: [Sword-TAP] Key Changes and Justifications
I say a straw poll from all on tech list, based on the options laid out from the summary digest. Even if it is as simple as saying 'no contest' - it would just be good to know what people are thinking so SWORDv2 can get some code laid down so we can do some real world testing against an instance? /dff > -Original Message- > From: Robert D. Sanderson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 25 January 2011 21:51 > To: Stuart Lewis > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Sword-TAP] Key Changes and Justifications > > > An actual issue tracker would be useful, though might divert discussion > to > the issue comments rather than the mailing list. > > I agree with Ed regarding it being hard to follow. It would be nice if > the individual issues could be separated out for discussion. > > R > > > Hi Ed, > > > > On 26/01/2011, at 7:31 AM, Ed Summers wrote: > > > >> Do we have a tracker for tracking any of these issues? Are we > planning > >> on starting up some regular skype calls to discuss them? I'm finding > >> it a bit hard to track the discussion. > > > > We're hoping to get a blog post written in the next few days > summarizing > > the key points that need agreeing. Perhaps then, if a few people are > > interested, we could arrange a Skype call to try and come to some > > decisions. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Stuart > > - > - > > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! > > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better > > price-free! > > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires > > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d > > ___ > > Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app- > techadvisorypanel > > > > > --- > --- > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price- > free! > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d > ___ > Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app- > techadvisorypanel -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app-techadvisorypanel
Re: [Sword-TAP] Key Changes and Justifications
An actual issue tracker would be useful, though might divert discussion to the issue comments rather than the mailing list. I agree with Ed regarding it being hard to follow. It would be nice if the individual issues could be separated out for discussion. R > Hi Ed, > > On 26/01/2011, at 7:31 AM, Ed Summers wrote: > >> Do we have a tracker for tracking any of these issues? Are we planning >> on starting up some regular skype calls to discuss them? I'm finding >> it a bit hard to track the discussion. > > We're hoping to get a blog post written in the next few days summarizing > the key points that need agreeing. Perhaps then, if a few people are > interested, we could arrange a Skype call to try and come to some > decisions. > > Thanks, > > > Stuart > -- > Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better > price-free! > Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires > February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d > ___ > Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app-techadvisorypanel > -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app-techadvisorypanel
Re: [Sword-TAP] Key Changes and Justifications
Hi Ed, On 26/01/2011, at 7:31 AM, Ed Summers wrote: > Do we have a tracker for tracking any of these issues? Are we planning > on starting up some regular skype calls to discuss them? I'm finding > it a bit hard to track the discussion. We're hoping to get a blog post written in the next few days summarizing the key points that need agreeing. Perhaps then, if a few people are interested, we could arrange a Skype call to try and come to some decisions. Thanks, Stuart -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app-techadvisorypanel
Re: [Sword-TAP] Key Changes and Justifications
Do we have a tracker for tracking any of these issues? Are we planning on starting up some regular skype calls to discuss them? I'm finding it a bit hard to track the discussion. //Ed - Hide quoted text - On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Graham Triggs wrote: > On 21 January 2011 14:54, Tim Brody wrote: >> >> I don't think bundling things into a .zip saves you work because it just >> moves the complexity into a different domain. You will get 90% of the way >> to moving objects from one system to another with low loss by using Atom + >> Dublin Core + a feed of media resources. If you require more complexity >> but >> in a limited scope use a private MIME type. >> > > Hmm. I'm going to step in here with regards to metadata. From doing (real, > live) publisher to repository deposits - and from discussions in the DSpace > community about what we want to be able to do with our repositories - Dublin > Core or even SWAP simply doesn't cut it. As a publisher, we have more > metadata available that we would want to pass to the repositories, which > they have told us they want to take, and is needed to properly support > export functionality from the repository that is desired. > G -- Special Offer-- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE (a $49 USD value)! Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better price-free! Download using promo code Free_Logger_4_Dev2Dev. Offer expires February 28th, so secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsight-sfd2d ___ Sword-app-techadvisorypanel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sword-app-techadvisorypanel
