Re: [Syslog] formal Consultation prior to concluding the working group

2005-11-17 Thread Darren Reed
 
 2) Is there another charter under which the working group would better
be able to make progress?

I believe the answer to this is yes.

There is very relevant work this group could do and should do.

If you look at what the community at large has done with implementing
syslog in recent years, the only conclusion that you can draw is that
what it has been doing, apart from 3164, has been quite distant from
what this should have been doing.

Darren

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RE: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete?

2005-11-17 Thread Eric Hibbard
My mistake. I mis-interpreted the WG description, ...At a minimum this
group will address providing authenticity, integrity and confidentiality
of Syslog messages as they traverse the network. I guess I'll shift
this discussion to INCITS/CS1.

Thanks for the bandwidth.

-Eric 

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From: Darren Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: Re: [Syslog] Charter revision / WG obsolete?

 As one of the many lurkers on this list, I have been monitoring this
 WG's activities and I'm a bit concerned with the recent posts. I had
 high hopes that some form of logging standardization might
materialize,
 but that now seems to be in question.

That is outside the scope of this WG.  We're trying to concentrate on
the protocol used to convey log information - that's all.

 Recent regulations within the U.S. (e.g., SOX, HIPAA, SEC, FDA, etc.)
 and other countries are forcing organizations to implement
 accountability measures. Audit logging (as well as authentication
and
 authorization) is a critical element of these accountability measures.
 Seems to me that this WG might want to step up and standardize the way
 this gets handled. If nothing else, it could give the WG a little more
 focus.

That information _may_ be placed in syslog messages but the scope
of what you're talking about includes much more than just sending
data between daemons.  For now, we have other more basic problems
to solve and as tempting as it is to try and solve these too, it
would just be a distraction and stop the WG from achieving what
it needs to achieve.

Darren

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