SSH - RE: [Syslog] Re: Threat model and charter

2006-01-11 Thread Chris Lonvick

Hi,

I forgot to address the use of SSH for authentication.  The isms WG is 
trying to use SSH to provide security for SNMPv3.  This can be done by 
having the devices authenticate by having a username and credential 
(password, public key, etc.).  Again, this sounds to me like it's getting 
further away from the ease of deployment for syslog than we'd like. 
However, Rainer mentioned that he thought some people were already using 
SSH to transport syslog.  I need to ask:  How many people have 
implementations that use SSH, and how many are planning this?


Thanks,
Chris

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RE: SSH - RE: [Syslog] Re: Threat model and charter

2006-01-11 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Just for the records, we (Adiscon - WinSyslog, MonitorWare, rsyslog) do
not plan to support SSH either. We plan native TLS first in rsyslog and
later in the Windows product. I guess we'll try to make it compatible to
syslog-ng no matter if this will be an IETF or industry standard. I
expect this to be fairly easy (AFIK our products interoperate via the
stunnel hack over SSL).

Rainer

 -Original Message-
 From: Balazs Scheidler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:40 PM
 To: Chris Lonvick
 Cc: Rainer Gerhards; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: SSH - RE: [Syslog] Re: Threat model and charter
 
 On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 06:29 -0800, Chris Lonvick wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I forgot to address the use of SSH for authentication.  The 
 isms WG is 
  trying to use SSH to provide security for SNMPv3.  This can 
 be done by 
  having the devices authenticate by having a username and credential 
  (password, public key, etc.).  Again, this sounds to me 
 like it's getting 
  further away from the ease of deployment for syslog than we'd like. 
  However, Rainer mentioned that he thought some people were 
 already using 
  SSH to transport syslog.  I need to ask:  How many people have 
  implementations that use SSH, and how many are planning this?
 
 I for one (syslog-ng) don't plan to add native support to 
 SSH, although
 SSH can be integrated into syslog-ng by using the program destination,
 something like this:
 
 program(ssh -i /etc/syslog-ng/ssh.key [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 /usr/bin/logger -f);
 
 However I don't see this as a very good solution. On the 
 other hand I'm 
 planning on adding TLS natively (instead of using stunnel 
 style hacks).
 
 -- 
 Bazsi
 
 

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