Re: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-23 Thread Darren J Moffat
David Harrington wrote: Hi Darren, [posting as a contributor] I don't know GSSAPI or SASL well enough to evaluate their approriateness for securing syslog. Are you willing to write one or two drafts proposing these as possible solutions so the WG can evaluate them as alternatives? [posting as

RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread David Harrington
David Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:14 AM > To: Miao Fuyou > Cc: 'David Harrington'; 'Rainer Gerhards'; [EMAIL P

RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread Anton Okmianski \(aokmians\)
rington'; 'Rainer Gerhards'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives > > > Hi, > > IMO, most current security protocols(TLS, DTLS, SSH, IPsec) > provide similiar > security service for application, such as confidentiality, i

Re: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread Darren Reed
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RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread David Harrington
rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 6:14 AM > To: Miao Fuyou > Cc: 'David Harrington'; 'Rainer Gerhards'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives > > Miao Fuyou wrote: > > rea

RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread Moehrke, John \(GE Healthcare\)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives > > Tom, > > I have to admit I have overlooked this item. I agree that we > (especially > me) were very TLS-minded. My memories tell me we > intentionally left the > door open for other transports, but

RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread Rainer Gerhards
; To: Rainer Gerhards; David Harrington; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives > > Rainer > > Looking at the outstanding milestones, I see > > Nov 2006Submit Syslog UDP Transport Mapping to the IESG > for consideration as > a PROPOS

Re: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread Tom Petch
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives Tom, > But, in all seriousness, changing from TLS to anything is a > charter change that > I think needs the approval of the IESG, and should require &g

Re: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread Darren J Moffat
Miao Fuyou wrote: real "general" security mechanisms(except IPsec, but it is not application-friendly). So, IMHO the primary criteria for selection is: is it convenient for the application to invoke the security service provided by the security protocol? That to me sounds like GSSAPI or SASL.

RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Tom, > But, in all seriousness, changing from TLS to anything is a > charter change that > I think needs the approval of the IESG, and should require > commitment, similar > to that given at the turn of the year, to produce conformant products. I do not agree here. We have deliberately not used

Re: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread Tom Petch
David You will know, and the archives show, that I spent much time in 2005 arguing for SSH as the transport for isms and, happily, the WG agreed. The archives also show that my efforts in syslog were to no avail and the WG overwhelmingly chose TLS. The argument in favour was the marketing one -

RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-22 Thread Rainer Gerhards
ursday, June 22, 2006 7:49 AM > To: 'David Harrington'; Rainer Gerhards; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives > > > Hi, > > IMO, most current security protocols(TLS, DTLS, SSH, IPsec) > provide similiar > security service

RE: [Syslog] Secure transport alternatives

2006-06-21 Thread Miao Fuyou
Hi, IMO, most current security protocols(TLS, DTLS, SSH, IPsec) provide similiar security service for application, such as confidentiality, integrity, anti-replay and peer identity authentication. In the same time, most of the applications share similiar security threats, such as hijacking, MITM