Re: [systemd-devel] systemd fails to boot OLPC XO-1.5

2011-05-09 Thread Daniel Drake
On 7 May 2011 23:43, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 7 May 2011 23:30, Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org wrote: You need capabilities in your kernel, or comment its use out, in the service file. I think I have capabilities in my kernel: CONFIG_SECURITY=y which means

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] src/util.h: include `stdarg.h`

2011-05-09 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Dienstag, den 03.05.2011, 00:39 +0200 schrieb Kay Sievers: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 00:20, Paul Menzel wrote: Am Montag, den 02.05.2011, 19:26 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering: Hmm, this should be enough to include in util.c, not util.h, right? I tried adding it just to `util.c` and it

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Angstrom support

2011-05-09 Thread Koen Kooi
Op 5 mei 2011, om 19:54 heeft Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri het volgende geschreven: On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Harald Hoyer harald.ho...@gmail.com wrote: diff --git a/src/util.c b/src/util.c index f0051ee..5af9161 100644 --- a/src/util.c +++ b/src/util.c @@ -3426,6 +3426,18 @@ void

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd fails to boot OLPC XO-1.5

2011-05-09 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 10:52, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 7 May 2011 23:43, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On 7 May 2011 23:30, Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org wrote: You need capabilities in your kernel, or comment its use out, in the service file. I think I have

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread microcai
于 2011年05月10日 00:10, Scott James Remnant 写道: Hey, I've been reading through the documentation on systemd and the Mailing List Archives and have had some questions, so I figured I'd post them here. These might be fairly complicated or unusual cases, and there may be no good answers now, and

[systemd-devel] device units rely on udev rules?

2011-05-09 Thread Scott James Remnant
Another question I wasn't able to find an answer to in the documentation I've read so far. The use of device units seems to very much rely on udevd running on the system, and not only that, udev rules having been parsed for the device and a systemd tag set in the udevdb. udev obviously starts

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
Hi Scott, Some answers below, but consider reading Lennart's reply first. I'll try to cover some points he did not in his reply. On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Scott James Remnant sc...@netsplit.comwrote: Hey, I've been reading through the documentation on systemd and the Mailing List

[systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s (was: Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?)

2011-05-09 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Montag, den 09.05.2011, 20:04 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering: […] We can now boot a reasonably complete GNOME userspace in less than 1s. Is there a demo image for that? What are the hardware specs? Will you be on the LinuxTag? coreboot will be demoing systems, e. g., Lenovo X60/T60,

Re: [systemd-devel] device units rely on udev rules?

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 11:53, Scott James Remnant (sc...@netsplit.com) wrote: Another question I wasn't able to find an answer to in the documentation I've read so far. The use of device units seems to very much rely on udevd running on the system, and not only that, udev rules having been parsed

Re: [systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s (was: Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?)

2011-05-09 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Paul Menzel paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Am Montag, den 09.05.2011, 20:04 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering: […] We can now boot a reasonably complete GNOME userspace in less than 1s. Is there a demo image for that? What are the hardware specs?

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 16:16, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri (barbi...@profusion.mobi) wrote: But I do agree with you an a way to state our priorities would be awesome. This is what Lennart said about a future way to feed it to kernel. I suggested some hackish way some time ago: I actually discussed

Re: [systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s (was: Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?)

2011-05-09 Thread Peter Stuge
Paul Menzel wrote: We can now boot a reasonably complete GNOME userspace in less than 1s. Is there a demo image for that? What are the hardware specs? Yes, a short and sweet way to reproduce these results would be lovely. I was hoping to build a userspace with systemd for the machines, but

Re: [systemd-devel] device units rely on udev rules?

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 21:51, Koen Kooi (k...@dominion.thruhere.net) wrote: This means there are a large number of devices already known to the kernel at the point that systemd starts, especially if you build the drivers into the kernel for those devices. It's possible to get going straight away

Re: [systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s (was: Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?)

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 21:29, Paul Menzel (paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net) wrote: Am Montag, den 09.05.2011, 20:04 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering: […] We can now boot a reasonably complete GNOME userspace in less than 1s. Is there a demo image for that? What are the hardware specs?

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 16:16, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri (barbi...@profusion.mobi) wrote: Well, right now let's make clear that Firefox/Chromium or other X clients won't be started by systemd as they are user session applications, and systemd itself will just deal with system context (ie: up to

Re: [systemd-devel] device units rely on udev rules?

2011-05-09 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 22:08, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: On Mon, 09.05.11 22:02, Lennart Poettering (lenn...@poettering.net) wrote: It's still in the 10 second range on a 600MHz cortex-a8 machine booting from an SD card. I need to dig out my 400MHz arm920t to see how

Re: [systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s

2011-05-09 Thread Paul Menzel
Am Montag, den 09.05.2011, 22:17 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Mon, 09.05.11 21:29, Paul Menzel (paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net) wrote: Am Montag, den 09.05.2011, 20:04 +0200 schrieb Lennart Poettering: […] We can now boot a reasonably complete GNOME userspace in less

Re: [systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 22:35, Paul Menzel (paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net) wrote: But quite frankly I won't have the time to do spend time on that, sorry. Surely you will come by for a few minutes to see with your own eyes what you hear from all the visitors about that awesome user experience

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Enable plymouth for Frugalware

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 08.05.11 13:39, Miklos Vajna (vmik...@frugalware.org) wrote: Hi, See the attached patch - we recently switched to Plymouth, this patch enables the plymouth bits in systemd for Frugalware. Thanks. Thanks, applied. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

[systemd-devel] Failed to connect to socket /org/freedesktop/systemd1/private

2011-05-09 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, Another systemd error I am encountering is: Failed to get D-Bus connection: Failed to connect to socket /org/freedesktop/systemd1/private: Connection refused The message appears a lot throughout boot, full logs here: http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/20110509/systemd-boot.txt It also means I

Re: [systemd-devel] user space boot time 1s

2011-05-09 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 22:39, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: On Mon, 09.05.11 22:35, Paul Menzel (paulepan...@users.sourceforge.net) wrote: But quite frankly I won't have the time to do spend time on that, sorry. Surely you will come by for a few minutes to see with your

Re: [systemd-devel] I need a killall.service in beta fc 15 (systemd installed by default)

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 08.05.11 13:01, floydsm...@aol.com (floydsm...@aol.com) wrote: I guess this might be somthing like: cd / ln -sf ../../../lib/systemd/system/3.target etc/systemd/system/default.target but with 3 replaced by 6 (for shutdown). I need such a service so that I on shutdown I can have a

Re: [systemd-devel] Parallel startup with sockets and without killing the machine?

2011-05-09 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: On Mon, 09.05.11 16:16, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri (barbi...@profusion.mobi) wrote: Well, right now let's make clear that Firefox/Chromium or other X clients won't be started by systemd as they are user session

Re: [systemd-devel] /run DoS

2011-05-09 Thread Karel Zak
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 11:45:51PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: 2011/4/3 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de: On Sun, 03.04.11 23:28, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: But for /dev/shm I see no quick fix... do you? Unfortunately not. No one foresaw that quota support on

Re: [systemd-devel] Failed to connect to socket /org/freedesktop/systemd1/private

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
: http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/20110509/systemd-boot.txt You are lacking autofs4 support in the kernel. You should fix this first. Your udev in your initrd is a different version than on your system. You should really fix that too. /etc/mtab is not a symlink to /proc/mounts. Please fix. Your systemd

Re: [systemd-devel] /run DoS

2011-05-09 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/5/9 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de: On Mon, 09.05.11 23:31, Karel Zak (k...@redhat.com) wrote: On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 11:45:51PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: 2011/4/3 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de: On Sun, 03.04.11 23:28, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:

Re: [systemd-devel] Communicating need

2011-05-09 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Scott James Remnant sc...@netsplit.comwrote: Thanks for your answers so far, I haven't had a chance to fully read and digest them yet, but will do so before replying on those threads (if I even need to, it's likely your responses are complete in of themselves).

Re: [systemd-devel] Communicating need

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 13:13, Scott James Remnant (sc...@netsplit.com) wrote: The System Daemon seems to be where systemd is much more clever; a Bluetooth device unit would want the System Daemon, but that could be joined with socket/D-Bus Activation right? So the presence of the device creates the

Re: [systemd-devel] Communicating need

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 09.05.11 19:27, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri (barbi...@profusion.mobi) wrote: So I was curious how these problems would be solved in the systemd world? Reading through the documentation I came up with the following: The Kernel Driver is still going to get loaded regardless, because

Re: [systemd-devel] [Patch V2] Angstrom support

2011-05-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 06.05.11 09:19, Koen Kooi (k...@dominion.thruhere.net) wrote: This commit consists of the initial work to include Angstrom as a ported distribution for systemd. Angstrom tries to follow the debian way as much as possible, but deviates where it doesn't make sense for 'embedded'.

Re: [systemd-devel] device units rely on udev rules?

2011-05-09 Thread microcai
于 2011年05月10日 03:51, Koen Kooi 写道: Op 9 mei 2011, om 21:43 heeft Lennart Poettering het volgende geschreven: On Mon, 09.05.11 11:53, Scott James Remnant (sc...@netsplit.com) wrote: Another question I wasn't able to find an answer to in the documentation I've read so far. The use of