Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:31:45AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: Alternately, is there some all devices have been probed, nothing new will appear unless it is hot-plugged event. That would be equally useful (and probably mirrors what hardware-RAID cards do). No, there's no way to ever know this in

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] udev: use bit as unit for network card speeds

2013-11-12 Thread David Timothy Strauss
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Jan Engelhardt jeng...@inai.de wrote: In any case, even if the ethtool structures awkwardly specified the use of bytes, the user-visible part should be in bits, and this patch was to give an impetus. I won't commit the patch unless there's clarity that

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:10:28 -0800 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:31:45AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: Alternately, is there some all devices have been probed, nothing new will appear unless it is hot-plugged event. That would be equally useful (and

Re: [systemd-devel] Adding an option to prefix date time when journal forwards messages to console

2013-11-12 Thread Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
-Original Message- From: Kay Sievers [mailto:k...@vrfy.org] Sent: den 11 november 2013 16:31 To: Umut Tezduyar Lindskog Cc: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Adding an option to prefix date time when journal forwards messages to console On Mon,

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 06:16:24PM +0900, Greg KH wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 07:54:42PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:10:28 -0800 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:31:45AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: Alternately, is there some all

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 07:54:42PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:10:28 -0800 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:31:45AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: Alternately, is there some all devices have been probed, nothing new will appear unless it

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Provide infrastructure to include udev hwdb files.

2013-11-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
This is needed to provide keyboard support for some models of keyboard which have now been converted over to the new format. --- dracut-functions.sh | 29 + dracut.sh | 3 +++ 2 files changed, 32 insertions(+) diff --git a/dracut-functions.sh

[systemd-devel] [PATCH 0/2] (dracut) hwdb needed in early boot for some keyboards

2013-11-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
Hi, In this bug report https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 a user is unable to enter their encrypted root password via a wireless keyboard connected with a Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver. This information has moved from a 95-keymap.rules in the olden days to the hwdb infrastructure

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:16:24 +0900 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 07:54:42PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:10:28 -0800 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:31:45AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 0/2] (dracut) hwdb needed in early boot for some keyboards

2013-11-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Colin Guthrie co...@mageia.org wrote: In this bug report https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 a user is unable to enter their encrypted root password via a wireless keyboard connected with a Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver. This sounds weird. Why

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 0/2] (dracut) hwdb needed in early boot for some keyboards

2013-11-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Kay Sievers at 12/11/13 11:28 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Colin Guthrie co...@mageia.org wrote: In this bug report https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 a user is unable to enter their encrypted root password via a wireless keyboard

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 09:17:19PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:16:24 +0900 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: Not for USB, sorry. The USB bus just announces devices when it finds them, there is no all is quiet type signal or detection. Same for PCI hotplug,

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] man: wording and grammar updates

2013-11-12 Thread Michael Biebl
2013/11/12 Jan Engelhardt jeng...@inai.de: Important this time: /lib was changed to /usr/lib, since that is what most distros seem to use for their systemd/udev file location. That paths shouldn't be hard-coded but rather be set the values the package was actually compiled with [1]. Zbyszek

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] SMACK: assign * label to /tmp when using SMACK.

2013-11-12 Thread Karel Zak
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 03:16:17PM +0100, Karel Zak wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 09:19:27AM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Karel Zak k...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 01:20:18PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: BTW, for SELinux we remove

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] man: wording and grammar updates

2013-11-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Michael Biebl mbi...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/11/12 Jan Engelhardt jeng...@inai.de: Important this time: /lib was changed to /usr/lib, since that is what most distros seem to use for their systemd/udev file location. That paths shouldn't be hard-coded but rather

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
В Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:17:19 +1100 NeilBrown ne...@suse.de пишет: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:16:24 +0900 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 07:54:42PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:10:28 -0800 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote:

Re: [systemd-devel] Adding an option to prefix date time when journal forwards messages to console

2013-11-12 Thread Kay Sievers
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog We think being able to see the journal message timestamps on console is important. A locked up embedded system where we only have the output of console would be even more useful if we were to know when things went wrong. For this

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd + ExecStart + python script

2013-11-12 Thread Abdelghani Ouchabane
On 11/11/13 17:32, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 04:55:05PM +0100, Abdelghani Ouchabane wrote: ExecStart=/usr/bin/python /opt/cyclades/bin/t_idl.pyo |-1377 /bin/sh -c if [ ! -e /home/x/taskconfig/screensaver ]; then /bin/mkdir -p /home/x/taskconfig ;

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] SMACK: assign * label to /tmp when using SMACK.

2013-11-12 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Nov 12, 2013 6:16 AM, Karel Zak k...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 09:19:27AM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Karel Zak k...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 01:20:18PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: BTW, for SELinux we remove

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd + ExecStart + python script

2013-11-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 06:14:30PM +0100, Abdelghani Ouchabane wrote: On 11/11/13 17:32, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 04:55:05PM +0100, Abdelghani Ouchabane wrote: ExecStart=/usr/bin/python /opt/cyclades/bin/t_idl.pyo |-1377 /bin/sh -c if [ ! -e

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and NeilBrown at 12/11/13 11:17 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:16:24 +0900 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 07:54:42PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 00:10:28 -0800 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue,

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 11/12/2013 11:49 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote: It seems to me that doing this automatically is a bad idea if someone simply forgot to plug in a drive... or, and this has happened to me (tho' I stress not *by* me!), removes the wrong drive. I guess I'm in two minds on this one as I can see the

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] build-sys: Add --disable-networkd option

2013-11-12 Thread Colin Walters
For GNOME (Continuous), we are unlikely to require or want systemd-networkd in the near term future; all of the tools and code are targeting NetworkManager. The long term story is still an open question of course, but for now, there's no reason for gnome-continuous to build or ship this. ---

[systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-12 Thread Dan Williams
Hi, Having watched the discussion over the past week or so, I'm left with a few questions: 1) what is lacking in other userspace solutions (NetworkManager, ConnMan, wicked, initscripts, etc) that requires yet-another-network-daemon? 2) do you expect that systemd-networkd will grow to include

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build-sys: Add --disable-networkd option

2013-11-12 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org wrote: For GNOME (Continuous), we are unlikely to require or want systemd-networkd in the near term future; all of the tools and code are targeting NetworkManager. The long term story is still an open question of course, but

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-12 Thread Tom Gundersen
Hi Dan, On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: 1) what is lacking in other userspace solutions (NetworkManager, ConnMan, wicked, initscripts, etc) that requires yet-another-network-daemon? Without criticizing any of the existing solutions, some of the things

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] build-sys: Add --disable-networkd option

2013-11-12 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 22:48 +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: I also made the man pages conditional, please have a look if that works for you. Looks right. (Wow, make-man-rules.py is some nice magic) For what it's worth, if shipping or running networkd has any adverse effect (apart from space

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-12 Thread Holger Winkelmann [TP]
Hi Dan, - Original Message - Hi, Having watched the discussion over the past week or so, I'm left with a few questions: 1) what is lacking in other userspace solutions (NetworkManager, ConnMan, wicked, initscripts, etc) that requires yet-another-network-daemon? 2) do you

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd questions

2013-11-12 Thread Holger Winkelmann [TP]
sorry for double post after bounce and the huge signature, messed up my mail client config a bit.. Holger We asked our self the same questions, and alternatives exists even from the embedded camp [1] which often comes close to the server use case. Even if [1] does not have a Dbus interface,

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 03:03:44 +0100 (CET) Jan Engelhardt jeng...@inai.de wrote: On Tuesday 2013-11-12 01:31, NeilBrown wrote: mdadm is quite good at assembling arrays incrementally. udev runs mdadm -I for each new device and mdadm gathers them into arrays and activates the array once all

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] udev: use bit as unit for network card speeds

2013-11-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 12.11.13 05:49, Jan Engelhardt (jeng...@inai.de) wrote: Given a card that can do 100 Mbit/s, that would be about 12.5 MByte/s, but you cannot seriously expect me to use that value. Although it is quite compelling for 40 Gbit/s because that divides nicely to 5 GByte/sec, and we will be

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:52:43 +0100 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 09:17:19PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:16:24 +0900 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: Not for USB, sorry. The USB bus just announces devices

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:01:49 +0400 Andrey Borzenkov arvidj...@gmail.com wrote: В Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:17:19 +1100 NeilBrown ne...@suse.de пишет: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:16:24 +0900 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 07:54:42PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:

Re: [systemd-devel] Need help with a systemd/mdadm interaction.

2013-11-12 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:49:34 +0100 Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and NeilBrown at 12/11/13 11:17 did gyre and gimble: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:16:24 +0900 Greg KH gre...@linuxfoundation.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 07:54:42PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: On

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] udev: use bit as unit for network card speeds

2013-11-12 Thread David Timothy Strauss
+1 on the unit in the value. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 0/2] (dracut) hwdb needed in early boot for some keyboards

2013-11-12 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Colin Guthrie wrote: Hi, In this bug report https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11645 a user is unable to enter their encrypted root password via a wireless keyboard connected with a Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver. Just in case, I do have the same model of wireless keyboard and will