[systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello! I know this is a daring post. I just have one question. In the light of http://boycottsystemd.org/ http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ developing some systemd compatible services for BSD: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=articlesid=20140915064856 in the light of Debian Bug report logs -

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: I just have one question. In the light of http://boycottsystemd.org/ Please note that this is just (to the best of my knowledge), the misinformed rants of an anonymous individual (despite it appearing a lot more

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ Hm, missing content? Apparently someone attacked and wiped their website. It's mostly a trimmed-down systemd

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Michael Biebl
2014-09-21 23:52 GMT+02:00 Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no: On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote: I had it that it didn´t mount an NFS export and while in the end it was a syntax error in fstab that sysvinit happily ignored, I needed a bug report and dev

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/21/2014 01:31 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: in the light of the ongoing discussions on linux-kernel Could you provide a link to that ongoing discussion that is taking place in the kernel community regarding systemd? Did you ever ask yourself why your project provokes that amount of

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 00:15 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: Now alot of the resistance and polarity that is taking place like in the url you pointed at is hiding itself behind their misinterpretation of the so called Unix philosophy and claiming that we somehow fall short on the guidelines

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/21/2014 10:23 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 00:15 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: Now alot of the resistance and polarity that is taking place like in the url you pointed at is hiding itself behind their misinterpretation of the so called Unix philosophy and claiming that we

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 22.09.2014 um 00:48 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 09/21/2014 10:23 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 00:15 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: Now alot of the resistance and polarity that is taking place like in the url you pointed at is hiding itself behind their

Re: [systemd-devel] Implementing remote wake-up for Bluetooth

2014-09-21 Thread Bastien Nocera
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johannbg at gmail.com writes: On 09/21/2014 02:25 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: Ideas on how this should be implemented? Just make sure this gets implemented in the right place and ensure this can be disabled and is disabled by default as well as have proper permission

Re: [systemd-devel] Implementing remote wake-up for Bluetooth

2014-09-21 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sun, 2014-09-21 at 05:47 +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote: Hi Bastien, I wanted to add a toggle box like the one MacOS X has had for a long while, allowing users to wake up their system using a Bluetooth keyboard. The procedure is here:

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/21/2014 11:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 00:48 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: On 09/21/2014 10:23 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 22.09.2014 um 00:15 schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: Now alot of the resistance and polarity that is taking place like in the url you pointed at

Re: [systemd-devel] I wonder… why systemd provokes this amount of polarity and resistance

2014-09-21 Thread Uoti Urpala
On Sun, 2014-09-21 at 15:31 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Did you ever ask yourself why your project provokes that amount of resistance and polarity? Did you ever ask yourself whether this really is just resistance against anything new from people who just do not like new or whether it

[systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-21 Thread Alexander Groleau
Hello systemd users, I have been trying desperately for weeks to get my simple shutdown script for a Libvirt guest to run before libvirtd is shut down, without success. Essentially, I need the libvirt-windows.sh script to run before the libvirtd service is terminated (which occurs right after

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-21 Thread Tobias Geerinckx-Rice
On 22 September 2014 05:40, Alexander Groleau awg...@xbetanet.com wrote: Hello systemd users, Oh good. That's me! I have been trying desperately for weeks to get my simple shutdown script for a Libvirt guest to run before libvirtd is shut down, without success. Essentially, I need the

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-21 Thread Alexander Groleau
I have tried the traditional ExecStart, ExecStop all in one script with no luck (with RemainAfterExit=yes, etc.). I just can't seem to get it to run in this daemon SIGTERM section :(. I hate how on my system, libvirtd is literally the first thing to go down, making this quite tricky. What might I

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-21 Thread Andrei Borzenkov
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Alexander Groleau awg...@xbetanet.com wrote: Hello systemd users, I have been trying desperately for weeks to get my simple shutdown script for a Libvirt guest to run before libvirtd is shut down, without success. Essentially, I need the libvirt-windows.sh

Re: [systemd-devel] Cannot get Shutdown Script to Run (Libvirt Virtual Machine Shutdown)

2014-09-21 Thread Alexander Groleau
I have tried the following script as well during my adventures with no success: [Unit] Description=Start/Stop Libvirt Windows Guest Documentation=man:libvirtd(8) Documentation=http://libvirt.org After=libvirtd.service [Service] ExecStart=/usr/bin/libvirt-windows.sh start