Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what does "available" mean?)

2015-11-24 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:37:46PM -0500, Anne Mulhern wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Greg KH" > > To: "Anne Mulhern" > > Cc: "David Herrmann" , "systemd" > > > >

Re: [systemd-devel] Question for Private* options in systemd.exec

2015-11-24 Thread Sungbae Yoo
> Typically this is because they are only useful for whole system containers, > rather than service or application containment. > > What services are you running that you want to be able to isolate this with? I want a sandbox, which doen't allow to communicate between inside and outside. At

Re: [systemd-devel] Question for Private* options in systemd.exec

2015-11-24 Thread Sungbae Yoo
> systemd servies ar enot supposed to be a container environment. Hence > they only expose namespacing options that slightly rearrange things, > take rights way and suchlike but do not make structural changes to the > whole system, they don't create a completely new virtualized machine > for the

Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what does "available" mean?)

2015-11-24 Thread Anne Mulhern
- Original Message - > From: "Greg KH" > To: "Anne Mulhern" > Cc: "David Herrmann" , "systemd" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:42:21 AM > Subject: Re: [systemd-devel]

Re: [systemd-devel] network interface renaming

2015-11-24 Thread Steve Abner
On 11/23/2015 10:10 AM, Steven Abner wrote: systemd-networkd[260]: wlan0 : found matching network '/etc/systemd/network/11-dhcp-wlan0.network', based on potentially unpredictable ifname I assume its harmless message, but someone went to trouble of issuing warning in

Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what does "available" mean?)

2015-11-24 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:37:08AM -0500, Anne Mulhern wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "David Herrmann" > > To: "Anne Mulhern" > > Cc: "systemd" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015

Re: [systemd-devel] general systemd behavior question

2015-11-24 Thread Jesse Cobra
> Sure; just look as "man systemd" how to enable debug output. How embarrassing for me ;) Thank you, exactly what I needed to continue. I narrowed it down to a service, of which I do not need. Problem solved. Thanks again and apologies for not just checking the man page! On Mon, Nov 23,

[systemd-devel] Question for Private* options in systemd.exec

2015-11-24 Thread Sungbae Yoo
Hi, I want to use namespaces in systemd services, so I'm trying to use Private* (such as PrivateNetwork, PrivateTmp) options. But, I wonder that there are no PrivateIPC, PrivateUTS, and PrivateUser. How can the service has its own private ipc/uts/user namespace by just using systemd.exec

Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what does "available" mean?)

2015-11-24 Thread David Herrmann
Hi On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Anne Mulhern wrote: >> From: "David Herrmann" >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Anne Mulhern wrote: >> > libudev has some cooperating procedures that return the keys for a bunch of >> >

Re: [systemd-devel] vt-less session switching

2015-11-24 Thread David Herrmann
Hi On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 4:02 PM, SGT. Garcia wrote: > > hello, > > in kmscon cdev-session was removed before dvdherm stopped working on it in > favour of libuvt and systemd-logind; so reads the commit logs. > > i wonder if anyone here has managed to run X (or any

Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what does "available" mean?)

2015-11-24 Thread Anne Mulhern
- Original Message - > From: "David Herrmann" > To: "Anne Mulhern" > Cc: "systemd" > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 4:43:24 AM > Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what

Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what does "available" mean?)

2015-11-24 Thread David Herrmann
Hi On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Anne Mulhern wrote: >> From: "David Herrmann" >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Anne Mulhern wrote: >> >> From: "David Herrmann" >> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 5:35

Re: [systemd-devel] Question for Private* options in systemd.exec

2015-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 24.11.15 09:13, Sungbae Yoo (sungbae@samsung.com) wrote: > Hi, > > I want to use namespaces in systemd services, > so I'm trying to use Private* (such as PrivateNetwork, PrivateTmp) options. > > But, I wonder that there are no PrivateIPC, PrivateUTS, and PrivateUser. > How can the

Re: [systemd-devel] Question for Private* options in systemd.exec

2015-11-24 Thread Richard Maw
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 09:13:47AM +, Sungbae Yoo wrote: > Hi, > > I want to use namespaces in systemd services, > so I'm trying to use Private* (such as PrivateNetwork, PrivateTmp) options. > > But, I wonder that there are no PrivateIPC, PrivateUTS, and PrivateUser. Typically this is

Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what does "available" mean?)

2015-11-24 Thread Anne Mulhern
- Original Message - > From: "David Herrmann" > To: "Anne Mulhern" > Cc: "systemd" > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 10:15:05 AM > Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what

Re: [systemd-devel] libudev: subdirectories in sysfs (what does "available" mean?)

2015-11-24 Thread David Herrmann
Hi On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Anne Mulhern wrote: >> From: "David Herrmann" >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Anne Mulhern wrote: >> >> From: "David Herrmann" >> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:57

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-networkd transaction destructive

2015-11-24 Thread Steve Abner
On 11/23/2015 11:25 PM, Andrei Borzenkov wrote: systemd-networkd is socket activated on RTNETLINK messages; apparently after networkd is shut down more events come (I suppose wpa_supplicant shutdown may well trigger LINK event). To this extent this is probably cosmetic, although annoying.