Hi!
I agree to almost everything, except:
The handling of /etc/fstab is a true mess. Maybe other config files are handles
similarly, but I haven't discovered.
For some reason SLES does not set up a German keyboard in the mergency shell
(just to make things worse). I had opened a service
Am 28.08.19 um 19:11 schrieb Andrei Borzenkov:
> The problem is that systemd is used to do things it was never intended
> to do.
>
> systemd was created to do one and only one single task - start static
> list of services during system boot (and stop them during shutdown but
> that is
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:59 PM Ville Syrjälä
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:50:51PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 01:34:07PM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote:
> > > It looks like this patch got lost at some point:
> > >
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 08:50:51PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 01:34:07PM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote:
> > It looks like this patch got lost at some point:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/902126/#1138115
> >
> > but it seems to still be a problem and I'd like
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 01:34:07PM -0400, Dan Streetman wrote:
> It looks like this patch got lost at some point:
> https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/902126/#1138115
>
> but it seems to still be a problem and I'd like to pull it into Ubuntu:
>
It looks like this patch got lost at some point:
https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/902126/#1138115
but it seems to still be a problem and I'd like to pull it into Ubuntu:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1759836
Ville, did you ever follow up with a v2 for that patch
28.08.2019 11:38, Ulrich Windl пишет:
>
> Some design concepts in systemd are just insane, the fstab issue being a good
> example for that.
>
The problem is that systemd is used to do things it was never intended
to do.
systemd was created to do one and only one single task - start static
Does systemd-networkd provide any way to specify 'self' instead of
'master' so that the bridge host can have an ip on one of the vlans? I
think that's the missing link to the puzzle. The equivalent of
|bridge vlan add dev mybridge vid 3 self |||ip link add mybridge.3 link
mybridge type vlan
On 28-08-19 14:41, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mi, 28.08.19 09:33, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote:
Hi!
systemd in SLES 12 is causing endless frustration here:
Yesterday I was migrating some filesystems to a new device (multipath, MD-RAID,
LVM, filesystem,
On Mi, 28.08.19 10:46, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote:
> a good start for a discussion as always :-)
>
> just the topic "/etc/fstab obsolete?" alone makes one puke given that
> /etc/fstab is mentioned dozens of times in the manuals and yes you get
> generated units for years now,
On Mi, 28.08.19 09:33, Ulrich Windl (ulrich.wi...@rz.uni-regensburg.de) wrote:
> Hi!
>
> systemd in SLES 12 is causing endless frustration here:
>
> Yesterday I was migrating some filesystems to a new device (multipath,
> MD-RAID, LVM, filesystem, mountpoints, etc.), updating /etc/fstab and
On 28-08-19 11:54, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 28.08.19 um 11:24 schrieb Frans de Boer:
Unnecessary use of shaming and hurting words. Although the intention was
good, systemd is - in my view - overly complex. And yes, when starting
with it, one should read the manuals at least once, as a matter of
Ulrich,
I also wasn't happy when SLES switched to systemd because it meant
that I had to learn a lot of new stuff and forget many of the
knowledge that I head collected over the years for system V.
But before I switched all my SLES/D 11 systems to SLE 12 I ran
a test host for about half a year
>>> Frans de Boer schrieb am 28.08.2019 um 11:24 in Nachricht
<46281377-9749-7f60-f818-fa8b5d3f4...@fransdb.nl>:
[...]
>>> That is why I hate systemd!
>> believe it: systemd hates you too
Yeah, I feel it was written especially for me! ;-)
[...]
> righteous posture of some people, just because
Am 28.08.19 um 11:24 schrieb Frans de Boer:
> Unnecessary use of shaming and hurting words. Although the intention was
> good, systemd is - in my view - overly complex. And yes, when starting
> with it, one should read the manuals at least once, as a matter of
> preparation. But I also understand
Am 28.08.19 um 10:38 schrieb Ulrich Windl:
> So far the time systemd saves during boot or shutdown is in no reasonable
> proportion to the many hours of extra work it caused for the administrator
> (me)
> to get a system up that systemd downed.
but the problem here is you and not systemd
*
Am 28.08.19 um 09:33 schrieb Ulrich Windl:
> systemd in SLES 12 is causing endless frustration here:
a good start for a discussion as always :-)
just the topic "/etc/fstab obsolete?" alone makes one puke given that
/etc/fstab is mentioned dozens of times in the manuals and yes you get
>>> František Šumšal schrieb am 28.08.2019 um 10:18 in
Nachricht :
> On 8/28/19 9:33 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> systemd in SLES 12 is causing endless frustration here:
>>
>> Yesterday I was migrating some filesystems to a new device (multipath,
> MD-RAID, LVM, filesystem,
On 8/28/19 9:33 AM, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> Hi!
>
> systemd in SLES 12 is causing endless frustration here:
>
> Yesterday I was migrating some filesystems to a new device (multipath,
> MD-RAID, LVM, filesystem, mountpoints, etc.), updating /etc/fstab and other
> files as needed.
> After
Hi!
systemd in SLES 12 is causing endless frustration here:
Yesterday I was migrating some filesystems to a new device (multipath, MD-RAID,
LVM, filesystem, mountpoints, etc.), updating /etc/fstab and other files as
needed.
After migration was successful, I also cleaned up the now obsolete
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