Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-12 Thread Stef Bon
2013/2/11 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net: On Mon, 11.02.13 12:59, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: And since you say it's simple by just make the call, can you just describe what to do to make a plugable device like the UD-160-A/M turn into a dockingstation? loginctl attach

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-12 Thread poma
On 02/11/13 21:30, Lennart Poettering wrote: […] Of course, doing this via the command line is not user-frienldy, but maybe this will one day get fixed and somebody writes a proper UI for it... Regarding 'loginctl attach seat0 sysfs', the only thing really missing is the 'sys' path

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 12.02.13 15:50, poma (pomidorabelis...@gmail.com) wrote: On 02/11/13 21:30, Lennart Poettering wrote: […] Of course, doing this via the command line is not user-frienldy, but maybe this will one day get fixed and somebody writes a proper UI for it... Regarding 'loginctl

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-12 Thread poma
On 02/13/13 00:10, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 12.02.13 15:50, poma (pomidorabelis...@gmail.com) wrote: On 02/11/13 21:30, Lennart Poettering wrote: […] Of course, doing this via the command line is not user-frienldy, but maybe this will one day get fixed and somebody writes a proper

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-11 Thread Stef Bon
2013/2/8 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net: On Fri, 08.02.13 12:27, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: No, udev contains the information which devices together make up a seat. Hence, it is also udev where it is stored whether something is used in docking station style or in new

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-11 Thread Stef Bon
2013/2/11 Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie: 'Twas brillig, and Stef Bon at 11/02/13 08:45 did gyre and gimble: Look this is getting us nowhere. You do not seem to understand my point. How does this rule look like? I'm asking because I cannot immagine one. But calling those methods will

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.02.13 09:45, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: 2013/2/8 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net: On Fri, 08.02.13 12:27, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: No, udev contains the information which devices together make up a seat. Hence, it is also udev where it is

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.02.13 09:39, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: I'm not sure about unique ids, but I would have thought that the pluggable devices would have been easier to identify individually via serial numbers that were actually different in each device precisely for this reason.

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.02.13 12:59, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: Huh?? I do care since I think the way these plugable devices are not handled optimal, especially from the point if view from the user. And since you say it's simple by just make the call, can you just describe what to do to make a

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-11 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 09:16:08PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: a) we need to treat all devices of the same type the same, a logic depending on the order of discovery is not possible. Can we treat devices depending on which USB port they are connected to? If so, there could be

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.02.13 21:32, Tomasz Torcz (to...@pipebreaker.pl) wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 09:16:08PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: a) we need to treat all devices of the same type the same, a logic depending on the order of discovery is not possible. Can we treat devices

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-08 Thread Stef Bon
2013/2/8 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net: On Wed, 06.02.13 14:24, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: Ok, when logind sends out a message (after seat added or removed) it's up to the services like gdm(?) what to do with it: use it as docking station or to start a new session (eg a

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 08.02.13 12:27, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: 2013/2/8 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net: On Wed, 06.02.13 14:24, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: Ok, when logind sends out a message (after seat added or removed) it's up to the services like gdm(?) what to do

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-02-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 06.02.13 14:24, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: Ok, when logind sends out a message (after seat added or removed) it's up to the services like gdm(?) what to do with it: use it as docking station or to start a new session (eg a real seat) ( when it comes to adding). No, udev

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-29 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 29.01.13 13:28, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: Defaults? No I don't think so. I think this is a discussion about flexibility and let users decide what to do with these devices. Right now in the 71-seat.rules : # 'Plugable' USB hub, sound, network, graphics adapter

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-28 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 27.01.13 11:40, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: I think that it depends on the type of docking station. Things like Plugable UD-160-* are mostly used to create a new session. Well yes most likely, but not always. I know users and can imagine situations (as describe above)

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-25 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:39:46AM +, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Stef Bon at 23/01/13 10:28 did gyre and gimble: what should the gui toolkit be? Gtk3? I prefer that over qt, which is not my favorite. And is there a location to store the project? I can of course get one

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-23 Thread Stef Bon
Hi, Thanks what should the gui toolkit be? Gtk3? I prefer that over qt, which is not my favorite. And is there a location to store the project? I can of course get one at github or something like that, but maybe there is a better one? Stef ___

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 21.01.13 15:25, Stef Bon (stef...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi, I'm experimenting with the plugable ud-160-A as seat extender. I'm borrowing it from Hans de Goede. Now it works very good, only with new monitors using the newest EDID technique it blocks. Hans has already posted a patch.

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 21.01.13 21:56, poma (pomidorabelis...@gmail.com) wrote: This is contradictory to what I have experienced with DisplayLink DL-165 based device[1]. *Without engaging multiseat(udev's rule)* picture is garbled on the connected monitor, regardless of whether monitor(DVI) comes with the

[systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-21 Thread Stef Bon
Hi, I'm experimenting with the plugable ud-160-A as seat extender. I'm borrowing it from Hans de Goede. Now it works very good, only with new monitors using the newest EDID technique it blocks. Hans has already posted a patch. But with an older monitor it works great!! Now I would like

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-21 Thread Colin Guthrie
Hi, 'Twas brillig, and Stef Bon at 21/01/13 14:25 did gyre and gimble: I'm experimenting with the plugable ud-160-A as seat extender. I'm borrowing it from Hans de Goede. Now it works very good, only with new monitors using the newest EDID technique it blocks. Hans has already posted a

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-21 Thread Stef Bon
Lennart wrote here: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/multi-seat.html (Later on we'll probably have a graphical setup utility for additional seats, but that's not a pressing issue we believe, as the plug-n-play multi-seat support with the Plugable devices is so awesomely nice.) Fourth alinea.

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-21 Thread poma
On 01/21/2013 03:25 PM, Stef Bon wrote: Hi, I'm experimenting with the plugable ud-160-A as seat extender. I'm borrowing it from Hans de Goede. Now it works very good, only with new monitors using the newest EDID technique it blocks. Hans has already posted a patch. But with an older

Re: [systemd-devel] Someone working on gui for multiseat?

2013-01-21 Thread Stef Bon
Hi, First I'm talking about ud-160-A. Second the patch: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=894299 It's a patch for the displaylink driver. Third: have you tried to connect the monitor using the vga adapter? That should work. Stef And please do not mail to a lot of people. That