Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-13 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 13.04.15 02:37, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: Now, of these the first item is a work-around for broken daemons, and this should really be better fixed in the daemons themselves. A daemon that does not require tmpfiles is a good daemon. The third item is a

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 07:19:07PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sun, 12.04.15 14:11, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: I'm wondering if we should provide better per-user tmpfiles support. For example, if we allowed a set of user tmpfiles, which would be

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-12 Thread Elias Probst
On 04/12/2015 04:11 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I'm wondering if we should provide better per-user tmpfiles support. For example, if we allowed a set of user tmpfiles, which would be executed by the system instance, but would be considered relative to the home directory and

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 11.04.15 16:21, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 02:26:57PM +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: dean deanshann...@gmail.com schrieb: Ok thanks for your prompt reply. It is my understanding the the house-keeping-plugin cleans /tmp so does it

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-12 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 03:41:31PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Sat, 11.04.15 16:21, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 02:26:57PM +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: dean deanshann...@gmail.com schrieb: Ok thanks for your prompt reply. It is

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-12 Thread Elias Probst
On 04/12/2015 05:47 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: Elias Probst m...@eliasprobst.eu schrieb: On 04/12/2015 04:11 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I'm wondering if we should provide better per-user tmpfiles support. For example, if we allowed a set of user tmpfiles, which would be executed by

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-12 Thread Kai Krakow
Elias Probst m...@eliasprobst.eu schrieb: On 04/12/2015 04:11 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I'm wondering if we should provide better per-user tmpfiles support. For example, if we allowed a set of user tmpfiles, which would be executed by the system instance, but would be considered

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 12.04.15 14:11, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@in.waw.pl) wrote: I'm wondering if we should provide better per-user tmpfiles support. For example, if we allowed a set of user tmpfiles, which would be executed by the system instance, but would be considered relative to the home

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-12 Thread Kai Krakow
Elias Probst m...@eliasprobst.eu schrieb: On 04/12/2015 05:47 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: Elias Probst m...@eliasprobst.eu schrieb: On 04/12/2015 04:11 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I'm wondering if we should provide better per-user tmpfiles support. For example, if we allowed a set of

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 12.04.15 16:46, Elias Probst (m...@eliasprobst.eu) wrote: On 04/12/2015 04:11 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: I'm wondering if we should provide better per-user tmpfiles support. For example, if we allowed a set of user tmpfiles, which would be executed by the system

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-11 Thread Kai Krakow
dean deanshann...@gmail.com schrieb: Ok thanks for your prompt reply. It is my understanding the the house-keeping-plugin cleans /tmp so does it need access? Does systemD clean its own /tmp files/folders? Yes, it does. See man tmpfiles.d, it ships with defaults for the tmp directory. The

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-11 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 02:26:57PM +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: dean deanshann...@gmail.com schrieb: Ok thanks for your prompt reply. It is my understanding the the house-keeping-plugin cleans /tmp so does it need access? That sounds wrong. First, systemd is already cleaning /tmp, so nothing

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-11 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 02:26:57PM +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: dean deanshann...@gmail.com schrieb: Ok thanks for your prompt reply. It is my understanding the the house-keeping-plugin cleans /tmp so

[systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-10 Thread dean
Hi guys, Firstly i apologize if I'm in the wrong place, tell me where to go if i am ;-). I am having some permission problems, following is some syslog entries: gnome-session[2739]: (gnome-settings-daemon:2809): housekeeping-plugin-WARNING **: Failed to enumerate children of

Re: [systemd-devel] SystemD, Gnome permission problems

2015-04-10 Thread Mantas Mikulėnas
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 1:57 AM, dean deanshann...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Firstly i apologize if I'm in the wrong place, tell me where to go if i am ;-). I am having some permission problems, following is some syslog entries: gnome-session[2739]: (gnome-settings-daemon:2809):