Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-14 Thread Thierry Parmentelat
On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: systemd.journald.forward_to_console=1 This is exactly what I was after - thanks everybody ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-13 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thierry Parmentelat thierry.parmente...@inria.fr wrote: Thanks for the feedback; I didn't know that, so it might come in handy in understanding the problem However, I'm puzzled because it looks like there's no attempt at all to launch pl_sysinit The

Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-13 Thread Thierry Parmentelat
Hi Kay; thanks for taking the time to write this down I understand what you guys are saying; and at first sight I am on the safe side here though (as the name suggests, pl_sysinit will only mount filesystems and init network interfaces and the like) However your answers do not shed any light

Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-13 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Thierry Parmentelat at 13/02/13 14:03 did gyre and gimble: Hi Kay; thanks for taking the time to write this down I understand what you guys are saying; and at first sight I am on the safe side here though (as the name suggests, pl_sysinit will only mount filesystems and

Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-13 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 13.02.13 10:56, Thierry Parmentelat (thierry.parmente...@inria.fr) wrote: Hi Lennart Thanks for the feedback; I didn't know that, so it might come in handy in understanding the problem However, I'm puzzled because it looks like there's no attempt at all to launch pl_sysinit

Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-13 Thread Thierry Parmentelat
On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Log output of services ends up in the journal these days, from both early boot and late boot. And used to end up in syslog, except for early-boot where it ended up in kmsg -- which is probably what you saw. hence, check syslog or

Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-13 Thread Thierry Parmentelat
On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Thierry Parmentelat wrote: Right now I'm using systemd.log_level=debug systemd.log_target=kmsg OK, of course, I should use log_target=console Which I just did, and that shows a brief mention to pl_sysinit: About to execute /etc/init.d/pl_sysinit^M Forked

Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-13 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 13.02.13 21:26, Thierry Parmentelat (thierry.parmente...@inria.fr) wrote: On Feb 13, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Log output of services ends up in the journal these days, from both early boot and late boot. And used to end up in syslog, except for early-boot

Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-13 Thread Thierry Parmentelat
On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Hmm? Why does syslog/journalctl require the network? Yeah, sorry, I haven't made myself very clear: I can't get into the node as I have no physical access; and the node can't talk on the network; so I can't see the output of either of

Re: [systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 11.02.13 13:37, Thierry Parmentelat (thierry.parmente...@inria.fr) wrote: Hi Feel free to redirect me to some other place if needed :) So, we have a BootCD that is intended for remotely managed machines In a nutshell, we need to redefine the whole init sequence, and what we had

[systemd-devel] troubleshooting different behaviour of systemd between f16 and f18

2013-02-11 Thread Thierry Parmentelat
Hi Feel free to redirect me to some other place if needed :) So, we have a BootCD that is intended for remotely managed machines In a nutshell, we need to redefine the whole init sequence, and what we had on f12 and f14 boxes was essentially a set of 2 init scripts, one for rough system