Re: [systemd-devel] udev firmware loading

2013-11-27 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Richard Hughes at 27/11/13 09:31 did gyre and gimble: Hi all, I've been porting a lot of the gnome-packagekit functionality to gnome-software these last few months. One thing that used to work well, but I've not seen a bugreport about in *years* is the

Re: [systemd-devel] udev firmware loading

2013-11-27 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: I've been porting a lot of the gnome-packagekit functionality to gnome-software these last few months. One thing that used to work well, but I've not seen a bugreport about in *years* is the

Re: [systemd-devel] udev firmware loading

2013-11-27 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Kay Sievers [2013-11-27 12:47 +0100]: All of that is gone and will not come back, udev has no idea about device firmware and does no longer want to know about it. There is no way to tell these days what firmware was

Re: [systemd-devel] udev firmware loading

2013-11-27 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote: Kay Sievers [2013-11-27 12:47 +0100]: All of that is gone and will not come back, udev has no idea about device firmware and does no longer want to know about it. There is no way to tell these days what firmware was

Re: [systemd-devel] udev firmware loading

2013-11-27 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 1:02 PM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: Couldn't the kernel simply log (one of these new fance structured log messages it now supports) whenever it fails to load a piece of firmware? Yes, drivers could explicitly log fatal failures, ones they cannot recover from

Re: [systemd-devel] udev firmware loading

2013-11-27 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 13:11 +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: It would need a MESSSAGE_ID= and a few key/value pairs with the file name, the driver name and such to send out. The journal could get a service activation feature by message id ... Where does that stand, btw ? Hasn't

Re: [systemd-devel] udev firmware loading

2013-11-27 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-11-27 at 13:11 +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: It would need a MESSSAGE_ID= and a few key/value pairs with the file name, the driver name and such to send out. The journal could get a service activation feature