Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-25 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 25 Apr 2017 at 09:55:16 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > If you now > introduce a third set of search paths /usr/lib/systemd/session, then > you'll open an entirely new can of worms, as no apps install their > unit files there, and you'd have to convince every single one of them > to do

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-25 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 24.04.17 20:09, Benno Fünfstück (benno.fuenfstu...@gmail.com) wrote: > Thank you Lennart for taking the time to answer my question. It does make > sense that you wouldn't want to support multiple sessions in big desktop > environments like Gnome or KDE or any complex software. > >

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-25 Thread Benno Fünfstück
> > Increased complexity in *all* software — each and every thing you start > must > support multiple sessions. > Oh, why is that? I wasn't suggesting to replace the existing systemd --user instance, only to add a new one for each session. So software that does not support multiple sessions still

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 08:09:00PM +, Benno Fünfstück wrote: > Thank you Lennart for taking the time to answer my question. It does make > sense that you wouldn't want to support multiple sessions in big desktop > environments like Gnome or KDE or any complex software. > > However, it seems

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-24 Thread Benno Fünfstück
Thank you Lennart for taking the time to answer my question. It does make sense that you wouldn't want to support multiple sessions in big desktop environments like Gnome or KDE or any complex software. However, it seems to me that there would be quite some usecases that fall outside these where

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 22.04.17 14:07, Benno Fünfstück (benno.fuenfstu...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hello list, > > currenty, systemd runs a system instance and a per-user one. However, > sometimes it would be nice to have a per-session instance, for example for > users of lightweight desktop environments that don't

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 06:19:16PM +, Benno Fünfstück wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 02:07:49PM +, Benno Fünfstück wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > currenty, systemd runs a system instance and a per-user one. However, > > > sometimes it would be nice to have a per-session

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-23 Thread Benno Fünfstück
> > On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 02:07:49PM +, Benno Fünfstück wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > currenty, systemd runs a system instance and a per-user one. However, > > sometimes it would be nice to have a per-session instance, for example > for > > users of lightweight desktop environments that

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 02:07:49PM +, Benno Fünfstück wrote: > Hello list, > > currenty, systemd runs a system instance and a per-user one. However, > sometimes it would be nice to have a per-session instance, for example for > users of lightweight desktop environments that don't have their

[systemd-devel] Systemd --session instance?

2017-04-22 Thread Benno Fünfstück
Hello list, currenty, systemd runs a system instance and a per-user one. However, sometimes it would be nice to have a per-session instance, for example for users of lightweight desktop environments that don't have their own service manager. Then you could use systemd to spawn things like panels