Re: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:26:41 -0700, you wrote: They are fully aware of U.S. court restrictions, why choose NOW to blast away? Isn't it political grandstanding? RT US court restrictions? This is new to me. What would they be? Release a name unnecessarily (before the appeals process is

t-and-f: Masback = Nathan Thurm?

With all of the back-peddling from the USATF, CEO Craig Masback is sounding more and more like Martin Short's character Nathan Thurm, the defensive, nervous, chain-smoking lawyer who always confuses the issue. No matter what the facts are, he admits nothing and never bends. DAN RATHER: "Mr

RE: t-and-f: US officials deny drug results cover-up

Bislett Games meet director Svein Hansen said he would demand that Hunter immediately return $15,000 prizemoney and an undisclosed amount of appearance money. Svein should hope that it will be easier for him to get the prize money back than it was for CJ's first wife to get her child support

t-and-f: D-II Rankings Posted

The NCAA Division II Cross-Country regional and national polls for week #3 are now posted at the D2 Cross-Country Newsletter web site. I usually have them up by late Monday night or early Tuesday morning. The URL is: http://d2rankings.homestead.com -- Brian Kavanaugh Multi-Option Systems,

t-and-f: walking and whispering

From page 68 of the July 1980 issue of Track Field News... "As one noted scholar once said, "Race walking is like the art of trying to whisper the loudest." Marty Post Senior Editor Runner's World Magazine www.runnersworld.com

t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN SYDNEY

Congratulations to Meb and Abdi on running PRs in the 10,000 meter finals. Its guys like these that the US needs to have move up to the marathon immediately...rather than wait for the downside of their careers...London or Rotterdam 2001? Mike

t-and-f: Walking and Whispering.

I agreewalking IS like trying to whisper loudly As [EMAIL PROTECTED] said Whats the point??? Surely all the swimming strokes bar the freestyle fall into the same category..breaststroke or swimming backwards just isnt the quickest way to get from A to B. Like wise whats the point of

t-and-f: best times for place, womens 5000m and marathon

best times for place for the women's 5000 meters were set for fifth (Mikitenko, 14:43.59) and sixth (Cheromei, 14:47.35) - and non-Chinese fourth (Worku, 14:42.67) - in yesterday's final previous email on women's marathon didn't seem to go through: new fastest marathon times in history were set

t-and-f: Ouaziz Info Request

Does anybody know when and where Seloua (not Zahra) Ouaziz got her A qualifier for the 1500? The IAAF performance webpages don't show one for either 1999 or 2000. The fastest they have her is 4:08.18 in Rome on June 30 this year. You can respond to me offlist at the address below. While

Re: t-and-f: Bob Costas's view of race walking

Why do you feel a need to be "anti-" anything? There are dozens of Olympic sports I care nothing about, but I don't object to any of them. I just ignore them. I don't care for the walks much either, but what good comes from attacking them? Why don't you just foreget about them and

RE: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

Does the word also have a certain female sprinter among the 5? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of A.J. CraddockSent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:43 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988The word

RE: t-and-f: Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:42:11 -0700

Thanks the luck of those leaving in the west. At ET and CT time zones we had to stay awake till 1 AM or 2 AM to finally watch the 5000m finals with Szabo (whose name was mispronounced about 50 times as "Zabo" - whereas in fact it should be pronounced "Sabo", as the sole purpose of a Z

Re: t-and-f: Hypocrisy, thy name is USA

The IAAF later confirmed: Hunter didn't have a knee problem; he had a pee problem. Does anyone happen to know if CJ actually had knee surgery? Anyone get a good look for zippers on his knee? If this was a coverup, how elaborate was it? Before the "guilty" announcement, the knee injury

t-and-f: Freeman's full body suit, and other musings

1.Has anybody ever wore a full body suit in a major championship final race before? I remember years ago maybe Seoul or Toyko some hurdlers wearing them in a prelim. With as much on the line as she had it took alot of courage to try something new. 2. Anybody see the camera which was placed

Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN SYDNEY

No. It's not guys like Meb and Abdi we need moving up to the marathon. We need to coddle, teach, train and coach them towards their potential at 5K and 10K. And along the way we need to remunerate them for their success on the track, just like the marathoners. This way 12:59 and 26:59 won't

Re: t-and-f: Thanks, Visa

I bet you didn't see one from GM, who were prominently featuring Charles Austin in their commercials - the US Team co-captain, who failed to qualify in the HJ, apparently because of ill-fitting shoes. Tony Craddock At 10:25 PM 9/25/00 -0700, Brian McGuire wrote: So there I am watching the

Re: t-and-f: Mens' 400m Report

--- Eamonn Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 33, he (MJ) is fast approaching retirement from the event he has dominated for a decade, and his record at the Olympics is impeccable. Say what? "This was my last major competition and I've always won gold at the Olympics..." Say what??? I

RE: t-and-f: Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:42:11 -0700

Thanks the luck of those leaving in the west. At ET and CT time zones we had to stay awake till 1 AM or 2 AM to finally watch the 5000m finals with Szabo What luck would that be? NBC delays it to the same hour in every time zone. It was 2:00 AM here too. Of course those of us lucky to

Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN SYDNEY

OK, let's assume that they've got an additional 30 seconds improvement over 10K...where does that put them in the world?? My only real point was that TYPICALLY in this day and age, US distance runners wait way too long to focus on the marathon. When US ran well and had depth at the distance

RE: t-and-f: A little perspective

Hi, It was Yvonne (not Eva) Goolagong. I might spell her name erroneously but at least that was the pronunciation. Other than that, I agree with your perspective!UG ___- -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN SYDNEY

Oh yes, we should wait till they are in their mid 30's when their strength and speed have been dimished. Mistakes? Our mistakes have been waiting too long to enter the marathon. Muscle strength starts to decline around age 25. Strength is of the upmost importance in marathoning. Am I mistaken

Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN SYDNEY

I agree, I've been harping on this for years, since I was in college in fact. The marathon (if done right) need not end one's track career. There are many examples of guys running marathons and then running better on the track. Main example, once again, is Alberto Salazar. Fresh out of

RE: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN SYDNEY

Strength is of the upmost importance in marathoning. Great! A new event for CJ.Let's forget about aerobic development in training our marathoners and put them all on nandrolone.

Re: t-and-f: Cochrane Defense for CJ...

You know, that was down right classless. D Ryan Grote wrote: .As for toothpaste and toothbrushes, I can't imagine what kind of those things Marion uses, has to be something specially designed to work around the bulging/growing/protruding jaw and squirrelly tooth.GroteadiRP -- Dalton Foster

t-and-f: Tainted Iron Supplement

So CJ is blaming this tainted Iron Supplement. Couple of questions: 1. How would he know that it is now tainted? Did they test the supplement.? 2. Why would someone taint an iron supplement. I'm sure that steriods are expensive enough that people don't really want to be just giving it

Re: t-and-f: Mens' 400m Report

--- Eamonn Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 33, he (MJ) is fast approaching retirement from the event he has dominated for a decade, and his record at the Olympics is impeccable. Say what? "This was my last major competition and I've always won gold at the Olympics..." Say what???

t-and-f: The supplement defense

If CJ and his nutritionist believe that he ingested nondronalone accidentally in one the supplements that he was talking, a supplement which his nutritionist asserts was responsible for Merlene Ottey, and Linford Christies positive tests, then why not tell the IOC the name of the supplement so

t-and-f: Musings

Hi All A few personal musings on the events so far in a wonderful OG. First thought is that we have two awesome 100m champions. I thought that both were inspirational in their dominance, as well as being charming, intelligent and fun people. I have never seen such determination on Greene's

RE: t-and-f: Tainted Iron Supplement

Wait a minute! Hold the phone! This is not fair! You and others are going to start using logic and deductive reasoning to examine the evidence and reach conclusions? This is indeed a sad day for American jurisprudence and jury nullification. Think what you are doing! People like Johnny

Re: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

Is there a reason why people have to keep going back to 1988 (TWELVE years ago!) to dig up enough dirt for trash talking? TAC has pretty much swept aside almost all the relevent 'names' in authority since then and became USATF. Because the decisions that those people made affected the

t-and-f: No one watching...

Saw this story on a news program last night. A guy in a bar up near the Canadian border, the Olypics were on live, no one was watching. The guy said something to the affect of "I got tired of watching after the last scandel." Another guy not close enough to the border to get Canadian TV says

RE: t-and-f: Cochrane Defense for CJ...

I must have missed it -- what was the point ofthis message? Surely it wasn't humor. "As for toothpaste and toothbrushes, I can't imagine what kind of those things Marion uses, has to be something specially designed to work around the bulging/growing/protruding jaw and squirrelly tooth."

t-and-f: Hunter Knee Surgery Verification

Dan Kaplan writes: Does anyone happen to know if CJ actually had knee surgery? Anyone get a good look for zippers on his knee? If this was a coverup, how elaborate was it? Before the "guilty" announcement, the knee injury seemed far too convenient, but believable... Yes, he actually had

Re: t-and-f: walking and whispering

Dear Friends, I may as well start by citing the posting which comes closest to identifying the original source (although we apparently still have a bit to go). It is the very essence of sport to create artificial impediments and then conduct competitions subject to those impediments.

t-and-f: TJ on NBC

Anyone know when NBC showed coverage of the Triple Jump yesterday? I'm a big Edwards fan and I missed it. Maybe someone can help me find the proverbial needle in a haystack of 8 1/2 hours of tape. Thanks. Cory Beard

t-and-f: JAMES CARTER TAUNTING IN 400H

While I was quite happy for James Carter to make it into the 400H final, I feel very strongly that the taunting of his competitors over the final meters was both childish and unsportsmanlike. It will most certainly come back to haunt him in the finals. I'm an old die hard SF 49er's fan and

t-and-f: Geb the master of close calls

Another undefeated year for Gebrselassie and while he didn't compete a lot, every race was a lot closer than what he's used to in the past. His 2000 record: 1) Notturno Di Milano 5000m, June 7 - 1. Geb, 13:01.6; 2. Abraham Chebii, 13:01.9. MARGIN = 0.3 seconds 2) Live 2000 5000m, June 25 - 1.

Re: t-and-f: Tainted Iron Supplement

why would a 300 pound + weight man be taking iron? maybe his ferritin level was low and he was rebuilding so as to move across the ring without feeling fatigued!! Jim McLatchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So CJ is blaming this tainted Iron Supplement. Couple of questions: 1. How would he know

t-and-f: John Smith (throws) said he found out Sept 6th about CJ

Both Cj and Craig Masbeck claim they found out just a few days ago. John Smith claims he found out on the 6th and was wondering if a cover up would happen. This was on the throwers forum the "ring". Did they really not know or are they lying? How would John Smith know?

Re: t-and-f: JAMES CARTER TAUNTING IN 400H

Being an OLD 400IH runner, I NEVER won a race but I also was never taunted by those faster than me, his actions really bothered me a lot. As an American and ex hurdler, it embarrassed me. Tom From: "mike fanelli" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Microsoft Corporation Reply-To: "mike fanelli"

Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN SYDNEY

30 seconds would put abdi in a pretty good position. keep in mind that not many have broken 27. we need guys like meb and abdi to get to that level and show people that we can do it. kennedy did it, and now we have more athletes that are on the edge of great things. kennedy showed people what

t-and-f: 800m final

Netters, Does anyone else get the feeling that this could be a very special race? There are at least five guys who could go under 1:43.5 if the race goes fast. Kipketer is the favorite but he seems more vulnerable than he has in the past (though perhaps not much more). Borzakovskiy's

Re: t-and-f: walking and whispering

Trivia time. Go easy on the walkers. Not the fastest moving sport in the world, but they are moving forwards. I can think of three sports (incl. 2 Olympic sports) where the winners go backwards. Eamonn Condon WWW.RunnersGoal.com

RE: t-and-f: JAMES CARTER TAUNTING IN 400H

After many years in the malmo institute of t-and-f (that's MITAF), let me offer the following: Michael Jordan makes a taunting expression after nailing a game winner and it is lauded as confident bravado from a clutch performer. A young, unknown 400m hurdler makes a

RE: t-and-f: JAMES CARTER TAUNTING IN 400H

Michael Jordan pumping his fist after winning a game is one thing. What James Carter did was akin to Michael Jordan pumping his fist in his opponent's face after making a free throw in pre-game warm-ups. Celebrating your own accomplishment is fine, but to denigrate your competition in such a

Re: t-and-f: walking and whispering

Trivia time. Go easy on the walkers. Not the fastest moving sport in the world, but they are moving forwards. I can think of three sports (incl. 2 Olympic sports) where the winners go backwards. High jumpers, rowers, curlers, figure skaters. There must be more. Kurt Bray

Re: t-and-f: Cochrane Defense for CJ...

Thats right, INNOCENT, of course, you are assuming that I am making accusations, maybe just observations. Its never OK to question an American, is it? How about Inge DeBruuin and her innocence? No outrage there, and that was on TV. All I know is that I am recently married, my wife and I

Re: t-and-f: walking and whispering

Dear Dave, Thank you for that. My original posting was obviously done tongue in cheek. It baffles me when people come out with statements about walking like" whispering loudly" or " why not just run?". Regards Mike - Original Message - From: Dave Carey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Post, Marty

Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN MARATHON

...don't get me wrong...I am not saying they should run marathon exclusively...au contraire Pierre...10,000 meters fitness is "the foundation"...they should continue to train and race as 5/10/xc guys 80% of the year in order to maintain their wheels...guys who run marathon marathon marathon get

Re: t-and-f: Hunter Knee Surgery Verification

--- CHRIS KUYKENDALL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Kaplan writes: Does anyone happen to know if CJ actually had knee surgery? Yes, he actually had knee surgery. The Raleigh Times and Observer yesterday identified the local surgeon and quoted the surgeon in verification of the

Re: t-and-f: JAMES CARTER TAUNTING IN 400H

I agree. There is a difference between fist-pumping, spiking the ball and so on, as an exclamation point on confidence and achievement, as opposed to singling out opponents for ridicule, to belittle their accomplishments. Carter definitely crossed the line. RT On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:01:27

Re: t-and-f: Hunter Knee Surgery Verification

Dan Kaplan writes, regarding Hunter's surgery in North Carolina: Thanks. I am curious about one thing, probably because we always hear about how easy it is to find a doctor willing to administer illegal drugs safely. Why a local surgeon? I don't recall every hearing of a big name athlete

t-and-f: Let's deal with the REAL dopes

Y ask Y: I'm fed up. I've had enough. It's time to forget Bulgarian weight lifters, Romanians on Sudafed and shot putters gorging iron supplements. I demand that the IOC, IAAF and the World Anti-Doping Association tackle the real problem with worldwide athletics -- performance-INHIBITING

RE: t-and-f: JAMES CARTER TAUNTING IN 400H

"Big time" athletes who mock their opponents, like a Michael Jordan, an up-and-coming young athlete like James Carter, or playground heroes taunting their opponents...no matter what level you're at - it's all Bush League. Even if you're anyone of the MJ's in athletics (Marion, Michael the

Re: t-and-f: Geb the master of close calls

Helps to know you can out-kick anyone in the field regardless of pace. Anyone else know of a guy who has clicked off a :25 last 200 at the end of a fast 10k? He has milers speed. The marathon might become very scary when he moves up. Because of the likes of Geb and Terget the 10k has become a

Re: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

US court restrictions? This is new to me. What would they be? Release a name unnecessarily (before the appeals process is complete), and you get hauled into court to answer to defamation charges. The individual and the organization (USATF) could both be subject to huge penalties. There

Re: t-and-f: Geb the master of close calls

I used to out kick miles and 10K guys who moved to the marathon. It is not just about speed when you run that far, it is also durability. Let's see if Geb can run the marathon can run that far without injury before we worry about him changing the nature of the event. bd -- Benji Durden [EMAIL

RE: t-and-f: walking and whispering

An Aussie joke from 1984 (where New Zealand whooped Australia on the Olympic medals tally after success in equestrian, rowing and backstroke swimming events) went along these lines 'NZ can only win sports involving sitting down or going backwards'.. Regards - GT -

t-and-f: Men's PV Startlist

(Thanks to IAAF Statistics Section--http://www.iaaf.org/Results/index.asp) Starters for tonight's PV Qualifying Round and seasonal bests: Startlist - POLE VAULT Men - Qualification - 5.75Q,12q Group A - Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 18:30 Order Athlete

Re: t-and-f: Geb the master of close calls

True. I really doubt the marathon with change that drastically. Would just be scary if it did. One thing I think people have to realize when trying to figure out if Geb will be a good marathoner is that the marathon, as will any race over an hour, is a completely different type of event. It's

t-and-f: Summaries, summaries, summaries

Netters: The quest for Olympic sums in metropolitan papers the past two days has been most frustrating. The NY Timesd ran a pretty complete list in Sunday's shtee, but nothing at all in the early editions I bought the past two days. And the Star-Ledger's idea of sums is to list only US

t-and-f: Men's 200 first round

Results are in for the first round of the Men's 200, following are the heat winners: Heat 1 - Obikwelu 20.76 Heat 2 - Heard 20.68 Heat 3 - Boldon - 20.52 Heat 4 - Miller - 20.49 (Coby) Heat 5 - Konstantinos 20.57 Heat 6 - Williams - 20.45 (Jamaica) Heat 7 - Thompson - 20.69 (Oba) Heat 8 - Capel

t-and-f: Hunter comes under IOC fire

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/olympics2000/athletics-field/newsid_943000/943278.stm CJ Hunter's pleas of innocence have been dismissed by the International Olympic Committee after the American shot putter was revealed to have failed four drug tests. IOC vice president Dick Pound

t-and-f: Dick Ebersol, president of NBC (not a parody, I promise)

A real answer from the president of NBC (Dwight's boss) Question: A lot of viewers and critics think your profiles are too mawkish. Eberdol: That’s a very valid criticism of what we did in Atlanta. But we’ve taken diseases like asthma and [stopped treating] them as life-threatening. So you

t-and-f: Women's 1500 First Round Comments (long)

Skipping 30 lines for those of you passing through and remaining in suspense mode. Heat 1: Suzy Favor Hamilton of the United States advanced out of the Olympic prelims for the first time in her career, leading a close bunch of 1-5 runners also including improving

t-and-f: W 200M - Inger Miller DNS

Noticed that Inger Miller did not in fact run the W 200M. I guess we do have the hamstring story to run with. Tony Craddock

Re: t-and-f: 800m final

Last post of the evening, and then I'll shut up. Paul Talbot wrote: Does anyone else get the feeling that this could be a very special race? There are at least five guys who could go under 1:43.5 if the race goes fast. Kipketer is the favorite but he seems more vulnerable than he has in

t-and-f: Women's 200m Round 1 - includes results

A quick report on the first round of the women's 200m - just completed. Hopefully no significant errors. Crowd gave a smiling Marion Jones a great reception in the first heat of the day. She started fast but coasted the straight - doing just enough to win in 22.75. Fatima Yusuf and Alenka

t-and-f: Melinte scratched

Another scandal. Australian Channel 7 just broke the news that Women's World Hammer Throw record-holder Mihaele Melinte of Romania was on the Olympic field, warming up for the women's hammer qualifying, when she was pulled out of the event by officials due to a positive dope test. Sheesh..

Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN MARATHON

In a message dated 9/26/00 4:54:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .most guys who move up from 10 to the marathon end up running their best marathon time in their 2nd or 3rd race at the distance and then its downhill from there I recall reading a study that said just that - can't recall which

Re: t-and-f: Women's 1500 First Round Comments (long)

I have been taping tonites,ie, sidney morning rounds, and haven't looked at it yet. I just saw the DNF for Masterkova. I will see if I can find anything tonite and report. phil w

Re: t-and-f: Dick Ebersol, president of NBC (not a parody, I promise)

Dear Dick, Glad to hear that the official qualifying standard for an NBC olympic spot has been raised to a life threatening illness. Is there also a B standard of "feeling under the weather" for countries that suffer with good health? Eamonn Condon WWW.RunnersGoal.com - Original Message

Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN MARATHON

I believe that Noakes points this out in his book. On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/26/00 4:54:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .most guys who move up from 10 to the marathon end up running their best marathon time in their 2nd or 3rd race at the distance

t-and-f: melinte

Melinte was removed from the hammer prelims by officials moments before the competition began. She had failed a drug test on June 7, but was trying to compete anyway. JP

t-and-f: Hammer champion barred after test

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/olympics2000/athletics-field/newsid_944000/944222.stm Women's world hammer champion Mihaela Melinte has been thrown out of Stadium Australia and barred from competing in the Olympics for failing a doping test a month ago. The world record holder was

t-and-f: White House urges 'name US drug athletes'

Electronic Telegraph Wednesday 27 September 2000 Mihir Bose THE White House has intervened in the growing drugs controversy surrounding American athletes, calling on USA Track and Field, the governing body for the sport in America, to come clean about athletes who have tested positive for

t-and-f: British women's relay squad have sights on a medal

Electronic Telegraph Wednesday 27 September 2000 Tom Knight THE great debate raging within British athletics before the team left for Sydney centred on the fading prospects of the men's 400 metres relay squad. With Mark Richardson facing a doping inquiry and Iwan Thomas fighting a losing

t-and-f: Fair dinkum, Oz TV is a touch one-eyed

Electronic Telegraph Wednesday 27 September 2000 Robert Philip WHEN Alfred Hitchcock first visited Sydney, the master of the macabre demanded to be taken to The Gap on Watsons Bay, the cliff-top capital of Australia's suicidal tendency. A beauty spot of the doomed to which the Olympic city's

t-and-f: Bleary-eyed Coe sees beliefs mature

Electronic Telegraph Wednesday 27 September 2000 Sue Mott MORE eyedrops, said Jane Flemming. And you could see her point. These are the Sydney Give-Me-Eyedrops Olympics, with everyone in media stumbling around on coffee, adrenalin, no sleep and disbelief, including Sebastian Coe. "That was

Re: t-and-f: White House urges 'name US drug athletes'

THE White House has intervened in the growing drugs controversy surrounding American athletes, calling on USA Track and Field, the governing body for the sport in America, to come clean about athletes who have tested positive for drugs. Barry McCaffrey, President Clinton's drugs tsar, wrote a

t-and-f: Don't forget about Merlene Ottey's speed!

Jamaica is going to have a great 4 by 100 relay squad. I know you're thinking that they always do and that's true, but this time I got a weird feeling that they're going to do much better than we think. while we're all focusing on our team (USA) Jamaica is going to be hot! Just watch, I got a

t-and-f: more melinte

Re Melinte: Although she was flagged June 7 for a drug violation, it's apparently not clear when the IAAF itself was informed by its lab in Rome, or when the Romanians were told, or even if Melinte herself had ever been told by her own association. JP

Re: t-and-f: 5 positive names from 1988

The appeals process is found in USATF Regulation 10. To read it, go to http://www.usatf.org and click on to the link for the USATF Governance Manual. USATF bashers may be surprised to see because of amendments passed last year, new doping hearings are now heard and decided by independent AAA

RE: t-and-f: Positives and fines?

The governing body of weightlifting currently has a policy that three positive tests for one country will result in disqualification of that country from any weight lifting competition. Romania had two positive tests earlier this year and one in Sydney. As to who the fine was paid to, I am

Re: t-and-f: Positives and fines?

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 20:41:52 -0700, you wrote: Earlier today, Paul Tucknott, apparently quoting a BBC source. wrote: "The entire Romanian weightlifting team was to be kicked out of the games, but paid a $50,000 fine to allow those who had not tested positive to stay." It's not quite clear, to

Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN MARATHON

- Original Message - From: mike fanelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 7:01 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: MEB and ABDI IN MARATHON Mine is just a simple observation after many years doing homework for tv, radio, and finish line announcing as

Re: t-and-f: White House urges 'name US drug athletes'

The problem is why just USATF? Why not the NFL and NBA as well. It's like they're trying to find a whipping boy. --Kebba Tolbert From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now I don't wish harm to anyone, but it really looks as if the heat is

t-and-f: CBC broadcasts - French CBC

- Original Message - From: "Roger Ruth" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 9:42 PM Subject: t-and-f: CBC broadcasts Although several posts have commented on the good quality of CBC telecasts for USA fans close enough to the border to receive