In a message dated 11/1/0 9:53:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These Masters records are quite "soft". With the exception of the 200m, the
400, 800, 1500, and mile are all within his range. If I'm not mistaken,
doesn't he have the 800m already?
Soft? You've got to be kidding! Ask Eamonn
Greetings, all:
All four candidates for USATF Masters TF Committee chairman have responded
to my e-mail questionnaire and all four interviews are now posted at:
http://www.masterstrack.com/USATFpage.html
The last two are from George Mathews and Scott Thornsley. Earlier, I posted
interviews
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I can't see Gray getting any of the records outside the 800 - and that one
only if he generates the will to do so - something that was missing from
last summers efforts. Imagine a typical 800m runner (ie someone whose BEST
event is the 800, ie Gray) whose best is 1:51 (Gray as of now). How many
You are reading too much into what he is saying, I believe. Because RC
hasn't seen the evidence, *RC* doesn't believe it exists. Same stance I
take, actually.
I refuse to approach the discussion already assuming that most runners are
doped. While I accept doping occurs, nothing I have
Netters:
The
Union County (NJ) cross-country meet yesterday may not have been the strongest
of its kind in the nation this fall, but the boys'; race may have set a record
for historic names in the top 10.
They
included: (Mike) Nison, Scotch Plains 3rd; (KC) Brown, Cranford 44th' (David)
Buck Jones wrote:
Imagine a typical 800m runner (ie someone whose BEST event is the 800, ie
Gray) whose best is 1:51 (Gray as of now). How many 1:51 half-milers do you
know that can run 47.87 or 3:44/4:02?
Three points:
1) The fact that Gray ran around 1:50 last season does NOT make him equal
Netters:
I
would imagiane there will be a special race somewhere this winter, possibly at
the NY Armory, to give Johnny Gray his best shot at the 800M master's mark. As
far as the other's go, I would have to agree they are long shots at this
point.
I am
surprise that my good friend
So, Drew, based on the below progression of the WR (roughly 60 seconds every
20 years) how long before man breaks 00:00.00? In my lifetime, will we see
a 23:30 10k? Good one.
If I have riled you up, that is tough for you. Keep the putdowns to
yourself, or send them to me only. I haven't
Watching three of his 800 races this summer, he went out
quite fast- 51ish,
and the last 150 meters when he realized he was 'out of it',
he just jogged the final straightaway.
He was trying to be competitive with a 1:45.
Jogging the final straightaway, he finished around 1:51.
That tells me that
Am I to understand that the NYC Marathon won't be on TV this year? Bummer.
After being dumped by ABC a while back it's at least been on ESPN 2 the last
couple of years. Does anyone know if it'll be on local NYC TV?
The Chicago Marathon coverage on Fox wasn't bad. IMHO they should have had
The U.S. for the time being, in the pole vault, has two Olympic gold medalists and one
Olympic silver medalist. It's a growing women's event and is gymnastics-like but with
more objective, easy-to-understand scoring than the uneven bars or whatnot. So, a
question: Is this winter's indoor
When linear extrapolation is extended over large ranges
the choice of dependent variable becomes important. In the
case of running records, plotting race time vs calendar
time eventually produces meaningless results as witness
below. It is better to take average speed as the dependent
A second pole vault question...
What's the status of the girls' high school pole vault issue in Texas? Apparently the
University Interscholastic League (UIL) on October 15 in Austin had its (third?)
annuall discussion on the topic. I gather...
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:25:20 -0600, you wrote:
When linear extrapolation is extended over large ranges
the choice of dependent variable becomes important. In the
case of running records, plotting race time vs calendar
time eventually produces meaningless results as witness
below. It is
Justin wrote:
Oh come on Brian, at least try to debate intelligently.
Of course it's true that no race can be run in zero time. Limits are above
zero time, we can all agree on that. Clearly, as we reach the point of
maximum potential, we will see diminishing returns. As was elegantly shown
Justin says:
When we can show that the record is improving by a
smaller margin with each succeeding 20 yr period, we'll be able to make some
intelligent predictions (rather than simple assertions, which is all you've
managed so far).
You can make the WR's say whatever you want them too ... if
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Richard McCann wrote:
You only make my point here. There are virtually NO well-organized,
effective institutions in those countries (several of my former ag econ
classmates have worked on development projects in Kenya and other African
nations). To create the wave of
Hello Track Net Folks:
I need a contact phone number for Speed Dynamics. Can someone help me off list?
Kevin Galbraith
Long Beach State
World Road Racing Rankings Updated
Who's #1 on the roads? Khannouchi? Kimani? Kiplagat? Ndereba? For the latest
World Road Racing Rankings go to the website: http://www.runningusa.org.
To-date between January 1 and October 30, there have been a total of 721
performances by men at the 28:40
At 01:10 PM 11/02/2000 EST, you wrote:
Am I to understand that the NYC Marathon won't be on TV this year?
This is wrong. It WILL be on TV this year. The full race will be shown
locally on WNBC in New York, and there will be a national 1 hour highlight
show on Sunday afternoon on NBC at 3:00
To create the wave of performances at such young ages, before
these athletes have traveled to Europe where they might gain
access to EPO,
would require a concerted effort by a well-organized institution. Unless
Nike or Fila is making such an investment, (and I suspect shareholders
would
The question is Do you have to take the drugs to be an elite athlete?
Hell yes.
-Original Message-
From: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, November 02, 2000 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: t-and-f: Not EVERYONE is doping
The "16-17 year
Brian McEwen replied to Sideshow Bob saying:
I'm not going to add much to David Honnea's excellent respone on this,
except on a couple of points:
Man has not evolved enough to lap the greatest runners of just 15 years
before. Training methods have not changed and it doesn't have
At 12:57 PM 11/2/2000 -0700, P.F.Talbot wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Richard McCann wrote:
You only make my point here. There are virtually NO well-organized,
effective institutions in those countries (several of my former ag econ
classmates have worked on development projects in Kenya and
In a message dated 11/2/0 1:27:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am I to understand that the NYC Marathon won't be on TV this year? Bummer.
After being dumped by ABC a while back it's at least been on ESPN 2 the last
couple of years. Does anyone know if it'll be on local NYC TV?
It will be
That is an idiotic statement.
I will bet every cent that I have and ever will have that Derrick Adkins,
the 1996 Olympic Gold Medallist in the 400m Hurdles, has never taken
performance enhancing drugs.
Was he elite? YES
Did he take drugs? NO
Therefore- YOU'RE WRONG
-Original Message-
It used to be that the KAA sent to Junior competitions (and World Univ.
games) what appeared to be high school kids...AND they ran like high school
kids. Now their "Junior" teams all look 25 years old...AND they run like it.
malmo
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dismiss everything that you don't know as a "conspiracy theory". There are
many more Willie Browns out there.
malmo
-Original Message-
From: Richard McCann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 1:44 PM
To: malmo
Cc: TFMail List
Subject: RE: t-and-f: Not
Before everyone goes nuts responding to yet another mindless post, might I
suggest that we all just ignore it. I can't believe the energy and time
wasted by members of this list(myself included) on people, especially those
who won't identify themselves, who make these ridiculous statements.
Before everyone goes nuts responding to yet another mindless post, might I
suggest that we all just ignore it. I can't believe the energy and time
wasted by members of this list(myself included) on people, especially those
who won't identify themselves, who make these ridiculous statements. If
We can accept Jim Ryun running what, 3:51 for a mile as a junior some 35
years ago with nothing but admiration and respect, but 27:40 and 12:54 today
are considered absolutely impossible unless they are on some
drugs?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!??!
This seem like a ridiculus double-standard to anyone
Just curious if anyone knows of any kick-butt stop watches; preferably
something that can time two or three things simultaneously (as opposed to
multiple split/lap times). I envision a three part display with the
ability to jump from one to the next to start/stop the individual times.
Anything
Netters
Ben Hall writes:
In response too mantis:
That is an idiotic statement.
Mantis wrote:
The question is Do you have to take the drugs to be an elite athlete?
You would think that some people might learn... but Ben Hall Came to the
same conclusion I already have...
My wife is
Sorry about the multiple messagesdidn't think the message got through, so
I kept hitting send.
Walt Murphy
Dan,
If you have a Palm III or one of its "family" (PDA running Palm OS)
there's a great stopwatch program called Stop3Watch. It as 3 stopwatches
displayed, each with the ability to take and remember 100 splits. You can
"zoom" in on any watch to increase the display size. You can start all
I've just received five copies of a message sent under this subject line.
I'll reprint it below, just in case anyone was fortunate enough to miss it.
It is not clear to me why subscribers to this list
([EMAIL PROTECTED] edu) would receive mail addressed to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. It is even less
It really does not hurt that bad to think sometimes! Bold letters, and easy
accusations, do not a genius make.
The G.O.A.T.
I am thinking quite clearly. It makes no sense for a
profit-motivated firm
based that derives most of its earnings from sales in the US and
Europe to
devote resources in a two nations with per capita income for less
than $500
per year and little potential growth in consumer demand. If
Oh come on Brian, at least try to debate intelligently.
Of course it's true that no race can be run in zero time. Limits are above
zero time, we can all agree on that. Clearly, as we reach the point of
maximum potential, we will see diminishing returns. As was elegantly shown
to us all, there
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