I think at the risk of sounding ignorant that the the rankings place too much
emphasis on things that do not matter. The OG should mean no more than any other meet.
Yes it is the crown jewel of track and field but the distances the runners have to
run are still the same regardless. If
Netters
below is RK's season record I think I had seen two other races not listed here but what you have is 11 wins 12 losses over 5, 10, 20 and 50k. his only loss was to two russians at 10k one of whom was last years world champ the other was in the top 5 at the games. It is especially note
GH wrote:
One of the prime complaints lodged by Darrell and his crew is that of
"consistency." He echoes the complaints we've had for years and years that
athletes don't know going in what a result really means. He/they are right
on that score. Our approach is to view the season as a whole
As has been discussed on the list previously, the nature of stats in
baseball is different than in tf. In baseball, it tends toward raw
numbers, not the "quality" of them. No wind readings to worry about or
length of home runs factored into the totals, batting averages
Which, IMHO, is one
High Jump Meeting
Municipality of Herakleion, Athens, Greece
24 January 2001
ENTRY LISTS
MEN
Stevan Holm (SWE)
Dragutin Topic (YUG)
Sergey Dymchenko (UKR)
Anatoliy Sokolovskiy (UKR)
Yarosav Rybakov (RUS)
Ton (SVK)
Tomas Janku (CZE)
Dimitrios Kokotis (GRE)
Dimitrios Syrakos (GRE)
Dimitrios
In a message dated 1/17/01 9:18:47 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We've got wind, altitude, track surface, temperature, hand timing, shoes,
clothing, starting irregularities, and any number of other explanations in
our magical bag of annotations that we can pull out in
I dunno...long time no post. Have not even
looked at these ratings or read everybody's rants about them, but regarding the
RK fella, one big difference with him and Zatopek is that Zatopek RAN.
Running is running, racewalking is a bit contrived at the very least. So,
I say do the apples to
on 17/1/01 8:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RK did his on the normal schedule. It was akin to Zatopek's feet.
Alright. I give in.
Randall Northam
Netters:
The
Dyestat post on what Dathan Ritzenhein accomp;ished last weekend at Eastern
Michigan is only have the story. ((Go into Dyetat for exact times, but Ritz had
a 4:09+ 1600 and 9:12+ 3200.
It
happened this way. Ritz is training now for the world cross-country trials. But
a
Washington's 400m record pre the US Champs was as follows
1 Sacramento 44.75, 1 Milan 44.84, 1 Turin 45.66, 2 Eugene 44.72.
He was 1-0 vs Parrela, 2-0 vs Mokganyetsi, and had faster times than
Cardenas and Taylor.
From that it seems pretty fair to me? Am I missing any results?
Sir, I think that
Netters:
North
Carolina-bound Erin Donohue was the undisputed star of the first half of the New
Jersey HS state relays Sunday at Princeton's Jadwin Gym.
Erin
anchored two record medley wins as her Haddonfield team ran away with the group
I title. She had a 5:00+ 1600 leg for the
Conway wrote:
While I agree with all of the above statements that you make I also view
the
rankings in the same manner as I view the Constitution .. The founding
fathers when framing the constitution did an excellent job of setting
forth
a framework that works through time .. Irregardless of
I think that the Ranking criteria is (from memory):
1) Honors Won
2) head-to-head Record in Competition
3) Sequence of Marks
If you "did well" in all three categories ... you probably meet your goal of
#4. Being Consistent.
So, unless I did not remember the ranking criteria correctly ...
Dalton writes:
After all in the end itis about who can get from point A to point B in the fastest
times during the
season, and therefore only the clock should matter.
??? Why don't we just use the performance lists to rank in that case?
Also, if this is the case how do you explain the walks?
Netters
Ryan, normally witty, and informed came up with this one liner:
So, I say do the apples to apples thing, in which case there are
lots of 18-19 minute 5k folks (men and women)
who are not world ranked, so the RK fella should be thankful.
Ryan, by the light, I hope you are joking
Right. Because that would be about
running...moving as fast as possible over a given distance. The spikes and
blocks would help reach that goal. I wouldn't know too much, as I've never
run out of blocks, and all of my PR's from 3000m-1m are in road racing
flats. However, the idea in any
I understand why one would want the rankings to mean more than a performance
lists, but I think that it is the least subjective thing that we presently have
to judge an athlete by, and I feel that they should matter the most. It just
seems unfair to punish someone for having a bad race on a big
Actually I wasn't kidding. I think that they should have an event to
correspond with racewalking called the SissyPut. That is, shot put for
weaklings under 150pounds, but taller than 5'10" (not sure on the metric
coversions?). I'd like to try that. However, instead of a regular shot
put, they
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dalton writes:
After all in the end itis about who can get from point A to point B in the fastest
times during the
season, and therefore only the clock should matter.
??? Why don't we just use the performance lists to rank in that case?
Why don't we just do
DAlton wrote:
I understand why one would want the rankings to mean more than a
performance
lists, but I think that it is the least subjective thing that we presently
have
to judge an athlete by, and I feel that they should matter the most. It
just
seems unfair to punish someone for having a
Grote wrote:
Right. Because that would be about running...moving as fast as possible
over a given distance. The spikes and blocks would help reach that goal.
I wouldn't know too much, as I've never run out of blocks, and all of my
PR's from 3000m-1m are in road racing flats. However,
Does somebody know where to find the american junior indoor records list,
2001 College lists and 2001 High School lists ?
Thanks
Michel Saint-Raymond
http://aimeserre.multimedia.com/index.html
Wrote my last post in a rush. please excuse the typos. Thanks
D
Dalton Foster wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dalton writes:
After all in the end itis about who can get from point A to point B in the
fastest times during the
season, and therefore only the clock should matter.
???
I haven't seen the Millrose entry lists yet, but I would suspect they'll have both the
Olympic gold and silver medalists in the men's vault.
Nonethless, the men's vault will be the curtain lifter, starting off the evening, with
the women's event slated for the prime time window.
Not bad for
Kurt:
The big difference between hurdling and racewalking is that you can hurdle
as fast as you possibly can and you are still a hurdler. But if you racewalk
as fast as you can, you turn into a runner.
Ed Prytherch
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From: ed prytherch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: Racewalking MumboJumbo
Kurt:
The big difference between hurdling and racewalking is that you can hurdle
as fast
Ryan,
Et tu Brutus?
What ever happened to the US in the Jumps? Only the Pole Vault with rankers?
Anyone have any Ideas?
Rick Baggett
Willamette Striders Pole Vault Club
Netters
Brian wrote:
So, unless I did not remember the ranking criteria correctly ... they align
exactly with the priorities YOU have as an athlete ... and the ones that
most world class athletes probably have.
Exactly Brian. I knew what the criteria were when I wrote that. I was
tring
Netters
Kurt wrote:
But wait a minute, maybe we could revise our thinking and consider the
hurdles a fundamentally DIFFERENT EVENT from the sprints and not worry about
direct comparisons.
And come to think of it, if we really wanted an intellectual challenge, we
could do that with the
Netters
Gary wrote:
Nonetheless, the men's vault will be the curtain lifter, starting off the
evening, with the women's event slated for the prime time window.
yes indeed and of all things the walk goes off at 7:25 pm - prime time
while not gold and silver medalist it will feature at least 6
netters
Ed Prytherch wrote:
But if you racewalk as fast as you can, you turn into a runner.
This is not true at all but then I suppose when dealing with the same
intellectual and emotional mind sets that produced such lovely concepts
as racism, bigotry, anti semitism, sexual discrimination,
Listers,
It amazes me that while the women's pole vault is becoming one of the
most popular events in track and field, many state associations (including
Connecticut) do not include it in their schedule of events.
For anyone in the northeast who is interested in the girl's pv, there
In case some of you didn't hear, John McDonnell suffered a mild heart attack
recently.
I haven't heard a mention of it on this list (except for USATF release).
For those of you who want to express your well wishes to Coach McDonnell, you
can send them care of:
John McDonnell
C/0 Mildred Bone
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