Re: t-and-f: can you justify metric measure?

2001-02-23 Thread sean other
Actually outsiders do understand. The same thing happened here in Ireland about 20 years ago. I can remember it happening. It didn't damage the sport in any way shape or form. The knub of the issue is that the vast majority of fans are not statisticians and would not be able to tell you if a

t-and-f: TV Alert

2001-02-23 Thread WMurphy25
The New Balance Inv. (Feb.3) will be featured on Elite Racing's show today on ESPN from 1:00-1:30pm. It will be shown again on Tuesday, Feb.27 at 3am. Don't know what's in the show, but this is the meet where Kevin Sullivan ran 3:56.69 and Regina Jacobs beat Amy Rudolph in the 3000. Walt

t-and-f: Decathlon and Pole vault site of the week!

2001-02-23 Thread Richard Hunter
Team Decathlon website www.teamdecathlon.com visit our site of the week (for you pole vaulters!) Important Information This e-mail constitutes a confidential communication and is subject to legal privilege. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify us immediately. You

Re: t-and-f: Stars

2001-02-23 Thread Conway Hill
T. Jordan wrote: Conway Hill wrote about the 2000 Oly Trials in Sacramento: Mo, MJ and Marion were there ... Where else in the US = can you see the 3 of them in the same meet All three have been at the Prefontaine Classic the past three years...but that just proves your point, Conway. The

Re: t-and-f: Talking Cross

2001-02-23 Thread John Lunn
I was impressed by several items. First, I didn't notice many runners who doubled. Second, it's nice to see a set of brothers made the team, Matt Downin in the long race and Andy in the short course. Third, Greg Jimerson finished fourth in the 12K. The impressive showing by Greg is that he puts

Re: t-and-f: SACTO TRIALS: GOOD NOT SO GOOD

2001-02-23 Thread Jim McLatchie
move the dates of the olympic games to allow recovery from the 26 mile jaunt. Tom Derderian wrote: 000801c09d32$70a103e0$8e04f7a5@planetb">What would it take to have the marathons in Sacramento with the tracktrials?Tom D.- Original Message -From: John Lunn [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: mike

t-and-f: problems with my posts?

2001-02-23 Thread GHTFNedit
no, not the subject matter! I've had one correspondent tell me that there is no line-wrap in my copy; that the columns just run forever and ever. Anybody else having this problem witih my stufff? (plz. respond off-list) gh

RE: t-and-f: Gebrselassie 10K

2001-02-23 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 23 Feb 2001 4:24:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Uri Goldbourt, PhD" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seoul in 1992? Seoul was 1988, Barcelona 1992, he did not run in the Seoul Olympics. UG Geb won the 5 and 10 at the World Juniors held in Seoul in 1992.

t-and-f: SEC Championship Weekend

2001-02-23 Thread Jim B. Kaiser
The Southeastern Conference Championships are being held this weekend (Sat-prelims; Sun-finals) at the University of Kentucky. For those interested, a website has been established at the official UK athletics website: http://www.ukathletics.com (go to track field section) or the shortcut

t-and-f: weather cancels Leeper?

2001-02-23 Thread Philip Weishaar
Nathan Leeper's appearance last night on David Letterman was put on hold due to bad weather I guess. Evidently they were blocking off 53rd street and putting an apron of some type on the street so he could high jump. whether others are jumping is not clear. It was announced earlier they

Re: t-and-f: SACTO TRIALS: GOOD NOT SO GOOD

2001-02-23 Thread Kurt Bray
move the dates of the olympic games to allow recovery from the 26 mile jaunt. Or move the trials back. I didn't see any dates in yesterday's announcements. I'd be surprised if they are already firm, so the trials dates should be much more moveable than the OG dates. Kurt Bray

Re: t-and-f: weather cancels Leeper?

2001-02-23 Thread NPM2RUN
Being in NYC, my guess is that they were unable to have him jump outdoors due to the snowstorm that arrived here around 3pm, and came down in a hurry. Letterman usually films between 5-7pm, for that nights show, and as Walt pointed out, films thursday/friday shows both on thursday. maybe it

t-and-f: SACTO TRIALS: GOOD NOT SO GOOD

2001-02-23 Thread Macdezal
Two comments regarding the trials being held in Sac again. 1. I hope that they add a few more lanes to their 2 lane warm up track. 2. One great thing is that when they are walking you down lane 8 to go to your starting blocks, you are only about 6 feet away from the fans sitting on the

Re: t-and-f: If you can't stand the heat...

2001-02-23 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Last july before the trials, there was a lot of conflicting info going on about the weather in Sacto. I just moved here a few months ago, and thus cannot speak from personal experience. In talking with a variety of different people (mostly runners), I also get a lot of conflicting information

RE: t-and-f: SACTO TRIALS: GOOD NOT SO GOOD

2001-02-23 Thread Guy Oekerman
Personally, I think the whole "stay in your seats" rule is quite good. I can't tell you how many times I've been distracted by those "fans" who stand up and cheer at Hayward Field during the best part of a race (they were really awful during the Hamilton/Szabo home stretch at Pre). I'm sure the

t-and-f: British sprinter declares innocence after positive drug test

2001-02-23 Thread Elliott Oti
BIRMINGHAM, England (AP) Sprinter John Skeete has withdrawn from Britain's team for next month's World Indoor Championships at Lisbon after a positive test for the banned steroid stanozolol. Declaring his innocence, Skeete said he believed his dietary supplement had been tampered with and

Re: t-and-f: SACTO TRIALS: GOOD NOT SO GOOD

2001-02-23 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
On a personal note, I enjoy seeing people stand up all the time at meets. I want there to be as much ruckus and energy as a football or basketball game. There is something about everyone sitting down all the time, to me, that says BORING. This is not like watching an equestrian performance.

Re: t-and-f: Trials Dates(wasSACTO TRIALS: GOOD NOT SO GOOD

2001-02-23 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:29:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Kurt Bray" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or move the trials back. I didn't see any dates in yesterday's announcements. I'd be surprised if they are already firm, so the trials dates should be much more moveable than the OG

RE: t-and-f: Gebrselassie 10K

2001-02-23 Thread Post, Marty
Geb won gold in '92 WJ 5000, but check out who he beat in the other medal positions: silver - Ismael Kirui bronze - Hicham el Guerrouj Kirui got some revenge the following year, when he handed Geb his only defeat (in the 5000m) at a World Championships or Olympic Games. -Original

t-and-f: El G - 8:09.89 - near WR for 2 miles (another imperial race)

2001-02-23 Thread Bob Ramsak
From Gent - EuroEnergizer Series 1. Hicham El Guerrouj - 8:09.89 2. Paul Bitok(Ken) 8:20.55 3. Said Berioui (Mar) 8:21.16 4. Said El Wardi (Mar) 8:25.11 WR is 8:09.66 by Hailu Mekonen (Eth) set last year in Birmingham - | Bob Ramsak| TRACK

Re: t-and-f: SACTO TRIALS: Marathon Selection

2001-02-23 Thread Ryan Grote
How about choosing the marathon team from a race the previous fall What would be so bad about allowing 9+ months from the selection race for recovery and a kickass training cycle? Why not allow the 3 (hopefully) men and women to use the money stipend from the trials? That amount of time

RE: t-and-f: Sacto Trials seating or standing

2001-02-23 Thread malmo
These are the outfield seats anyways. Let idiots with the cowbells and hawaiian shirts and the other half naked people stay on "their" side of the track... Problem solved. Now, Tom can we try this in Eugene and see how it works? Joe We get the women's pole vaulters on "our" side of the

Re: t-and-f: Sacto Trials seating or standing

2001-02-23 Thread John Dixon
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RE: t-and-f: can you justify metric measure?

2001-02-23 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
This has nothing to do with track ... but I have had to read it several times now so I need to shoot this down. I used to manage a Bike shop and all bike measurements for pro road bikes are done in centimeters. I did about 80 "pro bike" fittings while I was there. Every time someone

Re: t-and-f:...Meb's Foul Mouth

2001-02-23 Thread Ryan Grote
Yeah, just imagine if he'd gone to school in Jersey, than he would have a full mastery of the American Profanity Lexicon, in addition to his NCAA/US titles and Olympic berth. But he still would've had to run faster than he did to hold state records for 1600/mile and 3200/two mile...in fact he

RE: t-and-f: British sprinter declares innocence after positive drug test

2001-02-23 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
Skeete said: ''I accept there is a positive finding in my sample but I did not knowingly take this sample,'' he said. not knowingly take this "sample"? I should hope you would not drink your own pee. And, should the world start characterizing this type of rebuttal as the "Baumann

t-and-f: Unknowing standing in stands

2001-02-23 Thread Guy Oekerman
Joe- One problem. Once one of the "traditionalists" stands up in the sitting zone, they will claim that they didn't knowingly have the energy to stand, but they know where it came from, and they are looking forward to working with USATF and the Sacramento police to clear things up. "It must have

RE: t-and-f: Trials Dates(wasSACTO TRIALS: GOOD NOT SO GOOD

2001-02-23 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
You are right about all this scheduling jazz ... except that after this year's debacle .. and three years to plan for it, the US will have three guys go under 2:14 in the marathon and we will have 3 guys go to the games. I am less knowledgeable about the state of women's marathoning right now ...

Re: t-and-f: El G - 8:09.89 - near WR for 2 miles (another imperial race)

2001-02-23 Thread GHTFNedit
Since 2M stuff is so rare, let's put the mark in proper 3K perspective. It's worth 7:33.60, meaning that it makes him No. 3 ever indoors, but leaves him almost 10 seconds off the WR of 7:24.90 held by whatever-happened-to-Daniel-Komen (and about 8 seconds behind Geb). Still, isn't it

FW: t-and-f: can you justify metric measure?

2001-02-23 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
I apologize for posting this twice but it makes little sense unless the text at the top is included. Darrell wrote: Subject: Re: t-and-f: can you justify metric measure? But Garry metrics are not a foreign language just rarely used. We all were faced with it in school, and see it

Re: t-and-f: can you justify metric measure?

2001-02-23 Thread Randall Northam
on 2/23/01 8:56 PM, Mcewen, Brian T at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "bikes are done in centimeters" "But Garry metrics are not a foreign language just rarely used." Darrell, is English a foreign language you rarely use? What is a "Garry metrics"? Darrell missed a comma, which hardly

Re: t-and-f: can you justify metric measure?

2001-02-23 Thread Shawn Devereaux
Kinda on subject... At the '99 World Champs, Dominic Johnson from St. Lucia was threatened with disqualification for attempting to measure his run with an Imperial tape measure. I guess the Spanish hate the Imperial system as much as Americans hate the metric system. s.devereaux "Mcewen, Brian

Re: t-and-f: can you justify metric measure?

2001-02-23 Thread sean other
Also kinda on subject. I worked as an electrician in the US for a while and I used to send my helpers to measure conduit, trunking etc. One of the guys had difficulty, coming back with stuff like 5 foot 3 inches and one small mark past the 3rd big mark. So I gave him my metric only tape measure

Re: FW: t-and-f: can you justify metric measure?

2001-02-23 Thread sean other
What about this??? "standard-only tae measure." Brian, is English a foreign language you rarely use? What is a "standard-only tae measure"? Point being, typos often happen. :) Sean --- "Mcewen, Brian T" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize for posting this twice but it makes little sense

t-and-f: can you justify metric measure?

2001-02-23 Thread Macdezal
Darrell misses a comma, and Brian turns into the list abbess. Meanwhile, he has grammatical errors of his own. Go figure DMC "Don't approach a goat from the front, a horse from the back, or a fool from any side."

Re: t-and-f: Sacto Trials seating or standing

2001-02-23 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 23 Feb 2001 3:47:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, Joe Rubio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm in the group that likes to stand and yell and be obnoxious during meets. I can understand why people dislike me, but I don't particularly care. I know it's selfish, but I'm having

t-and-f: English National Cross-Country

2001-02-23 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Saturday 24 February 2001 Tom Knight GLYN TROMANS has decided not to defend his English National Cross-Country title in today's race at Maiden Castle, Durham, writes Tom Knight. The champion's withdrawal is the latest blow to hit the25-year-old championships which

Re: t-and-f: Sacto Trials seating or standing

2001-02-23 Thread GHTFNedit
Ed Parrott wrote: The solution is not all that complicated. First, do some market research among the prospective audience about how many people want to have the option of standing to cheer. Based on what I saw in Sacto, I'd say it was somewhere between 20 and 40 percent for the trials, but

t-and-f: Skeete rise hit by positive drug test

2001-02-23 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Saturday 24 February 2001 Tom Knight JOHN SKEETE'S rapid rise through the sprinting ranks came to a sudden halt yesterday when it was revealed that the 22-year-old has tested positive for a banned anabolic steroid. The drug stanozolol, which first came to prominence

t-and-f: Penn DMR

2001-02-23 Thread nad wilson
question regarding some Ncaa rules. would it be acceptable for a group of Connecticut redshirts to run a relay together at penn in the olympic development section? what if we called ourselves the Uconn Track Club (although we would be paying for everything!)? or would we have to run unattached?

t-and-f: AP agate errs on pole valut

2001-02-23 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: Speaking of track results agate, here's what The Associated Press sent at 1:06 p.m. Pacific time Friday, Sept. 23, 2001: BC-RUN-Flanders Indoor Results,0387 Flanders Indoor Results By The Associated Press At Ghent, Belgium Pole vault -- 1, Rodion Gataullin, Russia, 25-3 1/4 2,

t-and-f: National Depth--Steeplechase

2001-02-23 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top 100 rankings for 2000 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated the lists to three