t-and-f: Men's 10k @ Stanford...

2001-05-05 Thread Paul Merca
Title: Men's 10k @ Stanford... Courtesy www.gostanford.com. Meb Keflezighi sets the American record at the distance tonight...hope to hear details from listers who were there! Paul Merca Men's 10,000 Meters (Championship Section) 1 (h-1) Abraham Chebii Puma International 27:04.20 2

t-and-f: Re: WHY you check before you send virus warnings!

2001-05-05 Thread John Lunn
Rich Harrington wrote: Virus HOAXES are designed to get people to forward them on to everyone they know, thereby overloading mail systems. ALWAYS check with a credible source before you cry wolf. I can't wait to see the next Hoaxe Hoax warning. Do I pass that along?Does that mean that it

t-and-f: Meb gets AR--27:13.98

2001-05-05 Thread Brian McGuire
Chebii sets fastest 10k ever on U.S. soil, 27:04.20, Ben Maiyo 27:07.35, Luke Kipkosgei 27:12.37, Meb 27:13.98, Culpepper 27:33.93 (6x American performer), Schiebler 27:36, Abdi 28:01:02, Brad Hauser runs 5k (13:51)...results at www.gostanford.com Brian McGuire

t-and-f: Who dropped the ball on Meb's 10 record?

2001-05-05 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: It's close to 1 a.m. Saturday, Pacific time. More than two and half hours ago, Stanford's Web site posted news of Meb's American record in the 10,000 at the Cardinal Invitational. But unless your local newspaper is on the West Coast and has a VERY quick-off-the-mark sports copy desk,

t-and-f: Dathan Ritzenhein (Rockford, Michigan) 8:52.07 (2 miles)

2001-05-05 Thread Conning
Dathan Ritzenhein (Rockford, Michigan) won the two mile at the 27th Roosevelt Memorial in Dayton, Ohio on Friday, May 4th, in 8:52.07. "His two-mile time converts to 8:49.08, which is the best mark in the country this year."(Dayton Daily News) According to the Track Field News' Big Green Book

t-and-f: Kennedy in Stanford 10k

2001-05-05 Thread P.F.Talbot
Can someone fill us in on the DNF?

t-and-f: THE BIG NIGHT...Stanford 10,000

2001-05-05 Thread mike fanelli
WOW...what a fabulous 10,000 last night at Stanford. The weather at 9:15 could not have been more ideal. The small stadium ambiance, energized crowd and percussion section off the first turn made for the most exciting 10 that I've ever witnessed (including a rain soaked 27:18 by Barrios in

RE: t-and-f: Men's 10k @ Stanford...

2001-05-05 Thread Andrew Fitzhugh
Title: Men's 10k @ Stanford... Some additional notes from last night, with some info from the announcer and my own observations 1 (h-1) Abraham Chebii Puma International 27:04.20US All-comers record 4 (h-1) Mebrahtom Keflezighi Nike 27:13.98 US record 5 (h-1) Alan Culpepper

t-and-f: Fast twitch/slow twitch question?

2001-05-05 Thread Paul Nisius
The following debate came up at a high school track meet last night and I am looking for some expert opinions on the topic. I coach cross country in the fall at one school and track in the spring at another school (very small). While watching some of the girls running the 4 x 400 relay (from

t-and-f: Re: WHY you check before you send virus warnings

2001-05-05 Thread Martin J. Dixon
JL wrote "I can't wait to see the next Hoaxe Hoax warning. Do I pass thatalong?Does that mean that it is real?I'll open everything a day late and from the bottom up so that all ofyou guys can out wit eachother.The guy who has a system running willwin.JL" As everyone has privately and

RE: t-and-f: RE: Salazar Eugene 10k ?

2001-05-05 Thread malmo
The Boston Marathon is always on Patriots' Day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mcewen, Brian T Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:05 PM To: t-and-f Subject: t-and-f: RE: Salazar Eugene 10k ? I believe it was NINE days before. His

RE: t-and-f: Neville Hodge 10.96 M45 called legit

2001-05-05 Thread malmo
Place-grading and time-grading is still most accurate way of measure success. Master Po -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of rcjennings Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Neville Hodge 10.96

RE: t-and-f: Sage 3:39.99 !!

2001-05-05 Thread malmo
He's not a Junior. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Molvar Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:10 PM To: Send t-and-f Subject: t-and-f: Sage 3:39.99 !! My guess this is about the 4th best time (mile equivalent 3:57.8) for an

t-and-f: Elliott Almond's story on last night's Stanford 10k...

2001-05-05 Thread Paul Merca
...is available at: http://www0.mercurycenter.com/premium/sports/docs/track05.htm Paul Merca

t-and-f: Stanford 10k

2001-05-05 Thread Cordner3
Watching last night's 10k at Stanford was certainly an other-wordly experience. Here on a balmy windless evening under a full moon, ideal for a stroll by young lovers, a pack of men set out on a fast run accompanied by a dozen of Gabe Jenning's percussionists. Right from the start, the

Re: t-and-f: Dathan Ritzenhein (Rockford, Michigan) 8:52.07 (2 miles)

2001-05-05 Thread DANIEL DEYO
I know this was debated earlier. I just received returned a questionnaire from the National Federation of HS Athletic Associations. Two of the questions dealt with changing the 1600 3200 to the international distances of 1500 3000. Also the Michigan HS Athletic Association is reviewing

t-and-f: Cardinal Invite

2001-05-05 Thread Brian McGuire
From the Bay Area Running News www.barn.to : The last two years, I've been blessed to attend the Cardinal Invite at Stanford, and each time I've floated away from the meet wondering what the heck Vin Lananna and the Crew will be able to do to top the performance next year. Like Springsteen at

RE: t-and-f: Neville Hodge 10.96 M45 called legit

2001-05-05 Thread Phil Murray
I thought FAT timing in 10.96 was the most accurate way to measure success? Wouldn't that mean that someone who ran 10.95 would have beaten him and he would have finished ahead of someone who ran 10.97, no matter what their age? Seems like no tables are necessary this way. Phil Murray

t-and-f: Re: WHY you check before you send virus warnings

2001-05-05 Thread John Lunn
My Friend, The fact of the matter is that I had NOTHING to do with passing along ANYTHING. I'm tired of people jumping all over someone for making a post with good intentions. I'm sure that McLatchie, or whomever, was trying to help out and doesn't need the B.S.. So, speaking of checking

t-and-f: Re: WHY you check before you send virus warnings

2001-05-05 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Now I am going to give you some advice that you should take seriously. Your computer is sending out the HA HA HA virus message because it happened both times you sent me a message. There is a way to check the source of the message by looking at its' properties. You have an infected harddrive. If

t-and-f: Re: New thread regarding the Entine book

2001-05-05 Thread Jon Entine
Randy: I assume from what you wrote that you have not picked up the book. 80 percent of its content is devoted to just what you suggest is the most interesting issue -- the origins of race and race science and the historical abuse and misuse of the concept of race. The reason the Taboo has

t-and-f: Michael Johnson On Edmonton 4x400

2001-05-05 Thread TANFDONLEY
Edmonton Journal is reporting Michael Johnson is interested in competing on the US 4 x 400 relay team at the World Championships in Edmonton. I have also seen reports there will be a conference call this weekend among USATF folks to decide whether to allow that, given that Michael has no

t-and-f: Israeli results

2001-05-05 Thread D. Eiger
Selected results from Tel Aviv: Apr 15-16: Women Hep: Svetlana Gnezdilov 5332 (13.66-1.53-12.03-25.00/5.66w-35.15-2:23.31) Apr 21: Men HJ: Yoav Shuster (b. 020382) 2.15. DT: Lior Peretz 50.47. May 5: Men 100m (+1.8): Tommy Kafri 10.56, Gidon Jablonka 10.61, Attila Farkasz 10.67, Kfir Golan

RE: t-and-f: Dathan Ritzenhein (Rockford, Michigan) 8:52.07 (2 miles)

2001-05-05 Thread malmo
Good luck educating the "educators." malmo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DANIEL DEYOSent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 2:43 PMTo: malmo; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: t-and-f: Dathan Ritzenhein

Re: t-and-f: Re: Fast twitch/slow twitch question?

2001-05-05 Thread Tom Derderian
I think Jon and the parents and the coach may have missed something about the school girls who were sprinters in the spring, ran cross-country and in the subsequent spring, could not sprint as well. I suspect they just grew. They got bigger and heavier and slower. The fiber type didn't change,

t-and-f: Greek Clubs Championships (phase 2)

2001-05-05 Thread Michalis Nikitaridis
The second phase of the Clubs Championships started on Saturday and Costas Kenteris won the 100 m. in 10" 50. facing with a wind of -4.8 m/s. Thanou won the women's race in 11" 54 (-1.3 m/s) and Niki Xanthou attempted once at 6, 49 m. (+1.0 m/s). On Sunday Costas Gatsioudis will participate in

t-and-f: If only we had a human exacta

2001-05-05 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask Y: It's now 6:15 p.m. Pacific time, coming up on first-edition deadlines for some East Coast USA newspapers. Still no peep from AP on Meb's AR and the Kenyan running the fastest 10K ever on U.S. soil. To their credit, both Jill Geer at USATF and Steve Rider at Running USA wire have

t-and-f: Slow twitch/fast twitch

2001-05-05 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: On the question of whether cross-country running slows sprinters, I will have to consult by resident medical expert for a professional opinion. However, there is certainly no statistical evidence to support the theory. Roght now, for example, we have several girls who ran CC

t-and-f: Training around genetics

2001-05-05 Thread Guy Oekerman
I have a question for John and others who have weighed in on the genetic discussion. I believe that regardless of their genetic background, when we discuss elite athletes, we are speaking about the "outlyers." If that is indeed true, is there a way to train an athlete to maximize their

Re: t-and-f: Michael Johnson On Edmonton 4x400

2001-05-05 Thread krbray
David said: Edmonton Journal is reporting Michael Johnson is interested in competing on the US 4 x 400 relay team at the World Championships in Edmonton. I have also seen reports there will be a conference call this weekend among USATF folks to decide whether to allow that, given that Michael

Re: t-and-f: Re: Fast twitch/slow twitch question?

2001-05-05 Thread Ed Prytherch
There was a report of an experiment in New Studies in Athletics (IAAF) a few years ago which appears to contradict this. The experimenters switched the soleus and gastrocnemius muscles in a dog. One of the muscles (I can't remember which) has a higher proportion of fast twitch fibers. At first

t-and-f: Anyone have SC-UCLA dual meet results?

2001-05-05 Thread Seb Geb Meb
Couldn't make it to the meet this year. Would appreciate someone posting scores, summary etc. Thanks. SGM __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Re: t-and-f: Anyone have SC-UCLA dual meet results?

2001-05-05 Thread Barbara George Grenier
At 08:49 PM 5/5/01 -0700, Seb Geb Meb wrote: Go to www.flashresults.com/flashwest/ George Couldn't make it to the meet this year. Would appreciate someone posting scores, summary etc. Thanks. SGM __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the

t-and-f: Texas Invite sprints and hurdles

2001-05-05 Thread Bob Ramsak
Texas Invite - Austin -- 100 - 1. Donovan Bailey, Unattached 10.13 w:2.5; 2. Darren Campbell, Unattached 10.16 w:1.3; 3. Bruny Surin, Unattached 10.19 w:1.3; 200 - 1. Darren Campbell, Unattached 20.41 w:1.7; 2. Rohsaan Griffith, Unattached 20.53 w:2.6; 3. Floyd Heard, Unattached 20.80

t-and-f: Ja'Warren Hooker's Ohio Tour Part 1

2001-05-05 Thread Bob Ramsak
Still no auto qualifier for Hooker. Maybe tomorrow in Columbus at the Owens meet. Ohio Quad - Athens, 05-May 100 - 1 Ja'Warren Hooker Washington University 10.51 -2.42 Bobby Cruse Kent State 10.63 -2.4 200 - Ja'Warren Hooker Washington University 21.07 -0.2 3 9 2 Bobby Cruse Kent State

Re: t-and-f: Sage 3:39.99 !!

2001-05-05 Thread Bob Ramsak
My guess this is about the 4th best time (mile equivalent 3:57.8) for an American Collegiate freshman and top 5 on the US Junior list. Anyone have the facts? Sage turns 20 on October 5 (this calendar year), so I think that rules out junior list status, no?

Re: t-and-f: Fast twitch/slow twitch question?

2001-05-05 Thread DANIEL DEYO
I don't know the entire science of it, but from experience, we at Pioneer HS in Ann Arbor, MI had several females with huge improvements in sprint times from running cross country. One such runner went from the 59's as a freshman to the 54's as a senior. Another improved in the 100, 200, 400.