t-and-f: Sotomayor Tests Positive

2001-11-27 Thread Kurt Bray
I haven't seen many details nor even much reporting of this, but according to a short piece in the LA Times a day or two ago, recently retired HJ WR holder Javier Sotomayor tested positive for nandrolone last July. The test results were just now being publicly released. Kurt Bray

t-and-f: young guns blazing in China

2001-11-27 Thread Post, Marty
okay, so there weren't any world records at the Chinese National Games, but there were some performances there by youngsters - and we're talking 14-16 year-olds - that on any kind of age-graded system have got to be right up there with the best anyone else, including the East Africans, have ever

Re: t-and-f: young guns blazing in China

2001-11-27 Thread Mitchell S. Clair, Esq
I understand that there are a billion Chinese, and that some of them have to be spectacular athletes, but I don't believe these dates of birth. I don't believe a 14 yr old male can run a 1:49 800. I don't believe 14 yr old can legitmately race a 25k walk. Anyone disagree? -Original

Re: t-and-f: young guns blazing in China

2001-11-27 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Michael Granville set the National Freshman Class Record at the National Scholastic Meet in 1993 with a 1:51.03. He very well could have been 14 in that championship. Although I find it hard to believe someone could possibly go 2 seconds faster than Michael did his freshman year, its not

RE: t-and-f: young guns blazing in China

2001-11-27 Thread Post, Marty
Note that not only was the 800m winner allegedly 14, but he was a very, very young 14. DOB of 11 Nov 1987 and date of 800 final was 22 Nov, making him a whopping 14 years 11 days old. -Original Message- From: Mitchell S. Clair, Esq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 27,

t-and-f: Michael Granville

2001-11-27 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:15:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael Contopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Granville set the National Freshman Class Record at the National Scholastic Meet in 1993 with a 1:51.03. He very well could have been 14 in that championship.

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker South - why so fast?

2001-11-27 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:41:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, Geoff Pietsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Personally I think the South should run on a more challenging course. Tom The McAlpine course is a great course except for being too narrow after the long opening

t-and-f: Re: A prize mistake

2001-11-27 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Mon, 26 Nov 2001 8:44:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, Eamonn Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Electronic Telegraph Tuesday 27 November 2001 Tom Knight UP TO 35 athletes may not receive the prize money they have won this year because they had not undergone the

t-and-f: IAAF talks veterans

2001-11-27 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask: IAAF reports from Monte Carlo shindig: Following a presentation from the IAAF's new Marketing Partner Dentsu Inc, Council approved the 2002 Budget and heard detailed reports from the following Commissions: Development, Athletes, Veterans and Press. Did a search of IAAF site and

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker South - why so fast?

2001-11-27 Thread Tom Derderian
all from this one race. Yes it was a very talented field, no question, but it's hard to believe that all eight are faster than every other great southern runner for the past 20 years. Geoff It's not just at the Foot Locker South course where course record lists have been

t-and-f: former HS runners state competition for NCAA

2001-11-27 Thread P.F.Talbot
If you'll allow an estimate for Illinoisan Chris Siemers in the top-25 due to his 5th place finish in the DII nationals (and season 10K cross best of 30:13) Illinois would just edge out Michigan. Siemers was fourth in the Illinois state meet a few years back behind the Torres bros. and Sage and

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker South - why so fast?

2001-11-27 Thread Greg Hipp
From one year to the next who can remember exactly how to mark the course? Loops do tend to get shorter, curves straightened, and corners cut. That's why we have tracks. Then we can try to remember about how far from the curb they should be measured and where the steeple starts. Tom The

Re: t-and-f: Re: A prize mistake

2001-11-27 Thread DLTFNedit
In a message dated Tue, 27 Nov 2001 4:23:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, Randall Northam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 27/11/01 17:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else find the withholding of prize money in these instances a tad ridiculous? If someone bursts

Re: t-and-f: Re: A prize mistake

2001-11-27 Thread Randall Northam
on 27/11/01 17:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone else find the withholding of prize money in these instances a tad ridiculous? If someone bursts onto the scene and wins money, who would've known they were supposed to have been given out-of-competition drug tests? I

Re: t-and-f: Re: A prize mistake

2001-11-27 Thread Randall Northam
on 27/11/01 21:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, two a year is not too many, but the reason Sly was tested was because she had ALREADY run some fast times, even if they were years before, while she was still competiting. Who would've known to give her a test before she hit

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker South - why so fast?

2001-11-27 Thread koala
It's not just at the Foot Locker South course where course record lists have been rewritten. This year the times at Mt. SAC have been ridiculous. For years, anyone breaking 15 was a true stud. Now you have guys who are good, but not great dipping under the 15-minute barrier. I thought I would

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker South - why so fast?

2001-11-27 Thread true armiger
indeed. or it could be a case of the race developing more ideally under near-perfect conditions? oftentimes championship-type races, especially ones where qualifying for the next level depends on place, not finishing time, tend to go out slow and pick up noticably towards the finish,

Re: t-and-f: Footlocker South - why so fast?

2001-11-27 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 11/27/01 2:12:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From one year to the next who can remember exactly how to mark the course? Tom's right. That's why XC course records should be taken w/ a grain of salt. Even at place like Van Cortlandt Park, where the trails themselves are