t-and-f: Delta Stinks

When you purchase a plane ticket at the cheapest rate it is no exchange and no change without a fee. I do this all of the time. That ticket and your exchange of money establishes the terms of a contract. Now you want to cancell and not even change the contract that you agreeded to. Why does

t-and-f: Delta Stinks

1) I happen to think it is absolutely awesome that Coach Nepolitan was going to take a High School team on a road trip. When I was in HS, I would have killed to be able to take such a trip but was never afforded the opportunity. Believe it or not, last March we were taking our team (Don Bosco

t-and-f: Kenyan Juniors

Garry wrote: If there's a reason that Euros and Americans hang on much longer (which the run-of-the-mill internationalists do) it's becuase they haven't made enough to retire. The Kenyans do: one becuase they win significant prize money and two becuase what seems like a little money here is

t-and-f: El Guerrouj / Chelimo

I'm simply noting that not long ago Chelimo was an athlete who was in full health. And today at 29 he is dead, he said. It's probably much more a case of Chelimo drinking way too much 'home brewed' alcohol than any drug use. Chelimo was a big time drinker and his choice of poison'

t-and-f: Yegorova

I am assuming that there is a reason behind the procedure of requiring both a urine and blood test (some sort of safe guard I would guess). If I remember correctly from the post (edmonton) race press conference, they said that initially a blood test is done and if there are any abnormalities,

t-and-f: More Yegorova

Less Than 10% of the guys in the top 50 in the world are NOT on some kind of performance enhancing drug. this i know for sure as a matter of personal expirence while working in an IAAF lab. the problem is there is more to it than simply identifying a positive athlete.. a lot more under the

t-and-f: Next...

I believe you neglected to mention that these records are for racewalking, correct? Ryan, There was no neglect at all, and no reason to denigrate these performances by somehow qualifying them as less deserving because of the event that they choose to undertake. Next . . . MJR Mike, As a

t-and-f: Runners Form

With all this talk on form and efficiency, who out there are the most efficient runners that you have all seen? clearly Frank Shorter I'd go with Wilson Kipketer. /Drew

t-and-f: Beer Trials

'68 Echo Summitt (you're in the forest, do what you want) '72, '76 and '80 Eugene, no '84 LA Coliseum, yes*** *** Especially if you were sitting in section 5 on that fateful 'Day of the Keg' /Drew

t-and-f: Trivia Answer

Was Mark Plattjes' WC win in the 90's? Can't have been 12 years ago can it? /Drew

t-and-f: Bob Schul

Back in 1968, they wouldn't let Bob Schul run the trials when he was defending Olympic champ in the 5000. He was a few seconds of the trials standard, but fit and racing well. I believe Billy Mills was in a similar situation in 1968. Bruce Kritzler 1968 Olympic Trials 5000 meters 6.) Bob Schul

t-and-f: Webb and Hall

Ahhh - but does anyone (besides me) know when the last time a Junior High athlete not only qualified for nationals but actually made an Olympic track and field team and competed in the Olympics that year? Marjorie Larney in '52? /Drew

t-and-f: Derrick Adkins Article

I haven't seen it mentioned here, but in the May 7 issue of Newsweek (plug - plug) there's a great 'My Turn' article by 1996 Olympic Gold Medalist Derrick Adkins. Adkins chronicles his fight against Chronic Depression. It's the Newsweek with 'God and the Brain' on the cover. /Drew

t-and-f: Ed Mendoza

in the top 8 in at least two of the races or likely had Q marks in both and/or marathon: 1976: Shorter; Craig Virgin, Gary Bjorklund, Bill Rodgers, Ed Mendoza (5th 10k/definitely had Q marks in Mar 5k), Kardong, et. al I remember Ed Mendoza telling me that after his 5th place

t-and-f: Lindgren career

This from an old post I saved from Dave Johnson. /Drew Lindgren didn't start college at Washington State until after the cross country season of 1964 because he was running in the Tokyo Olympics that October. When he did start college comptition in the spring of '65, athletes were allowed only

t-and-f: Indoor Pentathlon Scoring Table

Does anyone know of a web-site that would have have the indoor scoring tables for pentathlon events? Thanks. /Drew

t-and-f: SRO

C'mon! I find it hard to believe there was a single instance where the crowd was not allowed to perform like the living entity that all crowds are. When there something soul-stirring happened, 20,000 butts rose as one, and nobody had the mildest complaint. The cops weren't automotons; they felt

t-and-f: Logical ?

For those who say high-schoolers are being cheated by not running 400H, all I can say is: Yeah, sure. And make the kidlets run 42-inch hurdles in the highs. And throw the 16-pound shot. And use 16-foot Pacer poles in the vault. Why deprive them? Nothing wrong with running 300 hurdles as a

t-and-f: 400 Hurdles / Logical Conclusion

Since I kinda started this, it's probably time to put it to bed. Nice dicussion though. Covered opinions, history, coaching theory, chiming in from old farts and no whining. Hey this list thing might catch on. /Drew

t-and-f: 400H

Can anyone tell me what other states besides NJ, NJ, Conn. compete in the 400H instead of the 300H at their state cjampionships? It just dawned on me, but over the years, while there's been way too much squawking over the mile/1500,1600 and 2 mile 3000,3200. The issue of an exact amount of laps

t-and-f: Marty Glickman

The newly configured U.S. relay team won the 4x100 in World record time, but the substitution of runners , to this day, has never made sense. Let's play Devil's advocate for a minute. Never made sense? The top four finishers at the Olympic Trials were the Games relay squad of Owens, Metcalfe,

t-and-f: Henry Rono / Trivia...

What a shame for someone to only have this memory or knowledge of Henry Rono. Does anyone have the NCAA results from Eugene circa 1977 or '78. The results alone won't tell the story, but Rono was magnificent. In the 5000 (I don't recall whether heats or final, because he was running

t-and-f: Trivia etc.

However, if you assume that most (or all) of the improvements to the WR's in the 800-1m are due to EPO over the last 8-10 years ... ..you'd be wrong. sideshow you'd be naive malmo I'll guess (smile) that Malmo's comment has to do with the first statement and not Dan's. If

t-and-f: Favorite Article

I think my favorite track article ever is Kenny Moore's 'Walker-Bayi' piece in Sports Illustrated back in either '75,'76, or '77. It chronicled the world's two best milers who's paths didn't meet because of the African boycott in Montreal. A few of the lines that I remember are: Watching

RE: t-and-f: AOY Voting starts now

Korzeniowki - nobody else even comes close . . . the guy is a legend! Paul! I agree. Korzeniowski for AOY Mike There is no better time to start this discussion. My pick: Robert Korzeniowski 4 of the top 10 performances in the 20km distance. Olympic Games Record at 20km distance. 2 of

RE: t-and-f: Re: TF: Qatar Meet

So, what of the accounts that the European based Kenyans are at a rather severe disadvantage when returning "home" for the national championships, under conditions they are no longer accustomed to? There are about 2 thousand conditions they're no longer accustomed to. They're called

t-and-f: Why Sully Rules

4) this is a sport which is for all intents and purposes, the national sport of other countries (Kenya, Ethiopia) and which greatly fosters extraordinary high participation levels, talent identification, and its subsequent development. I'm not too knowledgeable about Ethiopia, but nothing

t-and-f: Auto Timing

A belated thank-you to everyone who answered my query on Automatic Timing at the Olympics. I received many responses, had my recollection confirmed and got many different but not necessarily conflicting reports. Thanks again. /Drew

t-and-f: First Auto Timing

Does anyone know/remember when auto timing was first used at the Olympics and also when it was first 'officially' used as the standard at the Olympics. Thanks./Drew

t-and-f: Tidbits on Kenyan training

The hard-to-believe part is not that "some" Kenyans live far from a school, it's that (according to the myths) they apparently ALL do. Kurt Bray Paul Tergat's boyhood house is between 400-800 meters from his school. /Drew

t-and-f: Sit Down Sacto

This belongs in the 'more things change...' category. A quote from the New York Times: "The excitement during he race was terrific, and was made more so by the terrible noise caused by thousands of thrroats yelling injunctions in every language to those in front to 'sit down.'" This was for the

t-and-f: 29'4

Back in '96 for the Boston Marathon, I had the honor of spending several nights in the Elliott Lounge with friends. A interesting feature (aside from Coach Boaz dancing with Alison Roe) was the TV set at 8' 1/4" above the dance floor and a line of tape on the ground near the bar. When I asked