Hey Rob,
I was happy just to see the ol' list getting some use.
It will be interesting to see if they stand or sit in Athens.
JL
Rob Veer wrote:
lady's... lady's...
this used to be a TF-list...
and i used to find useful information here
is this all the USA tf has to offer, nowadays?
Ray and all,
Your experience was not universal. We had 14 tickets at the start of the
1500, 10 rows up. I had my 76 year old mother in a wheelchair, her husband
with a heart transplant, my 20 mo. old granddaughter at nap time,my wife
with Lupus, and the rest of the crew. Everyone at the meet was
Everyone,
With regrets, I have three Track and Field News Tour tickets for sale. I
am willing to let them go for less than what we paid for them.
Please contact me by e mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
John Lunn
After some inquiries, I need to clarify that I have 14 tickets for each
of the sessions.
Thanks,
John Lunn
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I have 14 tickets for sale for the first 4 days of Trials.
They are in section 108 (on top of the start of the 1500m) Rows 9 10.
Great shot of the finish line.
Will sell
I have 14 tickets for sale for the first 4 days of Trials.
They are in section 108 (on top of the start of the 1500m) Rows 9 10.
Great shot of the finish line.
Will sell at face value, $20.00/seat/session.
John Lunn
Very nice!
malmo wrote:
Randy, the problem with your desires to have the runners acquiece to your vicarious
desires is that those head-to-head match races are exactly what runners LOVE
Have you ever been in a pack with 150 to go, everyone digging hard, and you reach
for that extra
Listers
We are fortunate to have 2 tickets to the World Indoor Meet( reportedly
sold out for a year) and will not be able to attend the Sunday session.
Contact me off list if you are interested in purchasing both tickets to
Sunday only at list price.
John Lunn
to take notes.
John Lunn
Track and Field has not hit the pages of the Denver newspapers since
forever. Yesterday Tim and Marion made a big splash in the Rocky Mountain
News.Those who think that bad news is better than no news should be happy.
JL
malmo wrote:
Problem is Garry-Two-Rs, is that you are not the editor of
Back in the day, back before running was reinvented in Boulder, there was a war in the
streets as you tried to log your miles. One winter I was asked why my running outfit
was so ugly. The colors of this outfit could not be blamed on my color blindness. I
dyed my long johns a deep pink, my shorts
Mike,
Help me here.
A runner should find a route farther away from auto trafficand further away from
country roads where
the senior set wants to make you dead right? And you have preferred to run at night
with dark clothes
on so that you can be an invisible moving target?
I take it that this
I'll put my money on a miss quote from the reporter.
malmo wrote:
Shorter may have gotten Frenn mixed up with those other French
hammer-throwers from Kent State. It could happen. Cosmic
unconsciousness. Shrimp plate $1.99.
malmo
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John,
With all due respect, why do you chose to believe that Frank really said
this and it was not a mistake. Just because a reporter gets the quote in
the paper it doesn't make it true. If the reporter wanted to retract the
statement, it would appear on page 38. It really is just another
Garry,
Who has more credibility, Frank or the reporter? Why would you assume that what
you read is actually what Frank said? Except for TFN reports, I have my doubt
about anything that I read in the press.
John
ghill wrote:
No need to crosscheck: Frank's credibiity takes another hit because he
I can tell you who. Dave Neilson,head track coach at Idaho State and Stacey
Dragilla's coach, made the front cover of several track magazines with his
somersault jump. I don't remember his longest jump, but I know that there could
be a big difference between his longest and shortest jump of the
I'll bet on the Russian ballet dancers to win the high jump.
John
Jones, Carleton wrote:
I've often wanted to be rich. Not just for the ease of life and such, but
also so I could sponsor some cool ideas I've wondered about.
One of these would be a track meet with much simpler rules than we
Buck,
I heard Frank Potts tell the story of going to an international meet and a
Japanese pole vaulter walked up to the pit (probably saw dust), placed his pole
in the box, shimmied up the pole, and dropped over the bar, winning the event.
They passed a rule- one hand must be fixed in place.
Can a
Is anyone getting messages like these?
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What is the difference?
Keith Whitman wrote:
OK, I'm sorry folks, but enough of the madness. It's just a book and I
can't believe that anybody would pay that much for this book (eventhough I
have no doubt that somebody did). Want to read a book that can truly
change your life? Try the
Seemed better than test.
Keep up the good work guys, I know that the list is working.
JL
Robert Hersh wrote:
Dan, Wayne --
Are you guys trying to get this dialogue to publishable length?
Or are you just working on a cure for insomnia?
:-)
It seems to me that this is another instance of questioning what you read in the
press.
I doubt that Shorter ever made such a statement.
John Lunn
Martin J. Dixon wrote:
I'd say it was a very foolishly written and/or edited article-note the thread that
I was perpetuating. Someone on letsrun
Too late!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Your tounger daughter?
I could make some deliciously naughty joke outta that, but I'll leave it to
people's imaginations and not get myself in trouble...
sideshow
If I am not mistaken, the movie that you remember is about a University of New Mexico
miler by the name
of Baker.
John
Mike Prizy wrote:
Wasn't there another made-for-TV movie about a college-aged distance runner stricken
with cancer who
eventually died? I thought it was fact-based. I
can
be sacrificed.
With the present day news media, TF News excluded, anything I read or hear is
just another interesting story, maybe true maybe not.
John Lunn
Who wound you up?
I think that it's time for another out-n-back run for you.
Take care,
JL
Let me guess, it won't be a Masters record unless he files the proper
documentation with those authorities?
malmo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL
Malmo,
You crack me up!
I picture you at birthday parties walking around with a pin and popping
the balloons of all the kids.
I've been trying to figure out PR's since I rounded over the hill. It's
like this, if I run as fast today as I ran yesterday, it's a new PR for
my age. Or, even if I run
Y'all,
I don't know that Gabe gives a flip what you think, but I'll offer this
for your thoughts.
If gabe is suffering from clinical depression and is having trouble,
what role would you like to play in his recovery?
John Lunn
yes, yes and again: yes!!
while we're at it, let's put
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who gives a rat's ass about baseball! Okay, the issue of steroids in the sport is
somewhat connected to track field, but I could care less if baseball is in bad
financial shape. It's the national pastime and will always be around.
What we need to worry about is
It seems to me that the most important issue is that of the recipe. Has anyone
tried it? Is it any good? Is there such a thing as a bad chocolate chip cookie?
Have we had every discussion known to mankind concerning track and field?
John
George Cole wrote:
THIS IS NOT A TRUE STORY and should
Thanks, now I understand!
malmo wrote:
Everyone got bored at exactly the same time. It happens.
A lot of people don't realize what's really going on. They view life as
a bunch of unconnected incidences and things. They don't realize that
there's this like lattice of coincidence that lays
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Jeff Johnson's Border Clash 2001 Remarks
Thank you. Good evening.
It's a real pleasure for me to be with you tonight.
It seems to me that I've spent my entire life surrounded by winners. First, on my own
high
school and college teams, then later working here at
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As opposed to following the big buck sports, following track and field takes
work. You must know when an event is taking place and where to go to get
information. I missed more than a decade of following the sport because I didn't
have the time to dig out the information.
Harold,
I don't want to be picky, but it seems by your examples that the vision doesn't
need as much help as does the execution.
John
Harold Richards wrote:
This might start another thread: With track being the largest sport in
terms
of participation among high school athletes, why is
and print what they have received, rather than
produce their own story about something like a track meet. Not to mention the
hospitalities that the big buck sports provide to essentially bribe the writers
to cover them.
Wayne
John Lunn wrote:
As opposed to following the big buck sports, following
Dan Kaplan wrote:
. If I have any power, which I sincerely doubt,
it would have to be the foolish willingness to mix it up with people who
place emotion before reason.
You must be a married man.
JL
I thought that Hughes ran sub 4 when he was training in North Carolina several years
ago.
JL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last weekend was a significant one in terms of new Americans joining the sub-4:00
club, as 5 did it. That assumes that those who had/have doubts about the Washington
track
I was impressed with one aspect of the ski coverage on TV last night.
NBC overlayed the video of a previous skier on top of the performer and
thus giving the appearance of head to head competition.
I realize that we don't even use a split screen for track meets, but the
idea of using this
Garry, don't get mad at me. I have a question that is better than any of
the drug questions and is somewhat related to nutrition and will power.
Why do Girl Scout cookies show up on the first day of Lent?
JL
My understanding, not necessarily correct, is that USADA gets a large
portion of its funding from the USOC.
Where does WADA get its funding?
What are the checks and balances on WADA?
Thanks,
John
in 3:57. Next, he is
scheduled to run the mile at the Nebraska meet on February 9.
John Lunn
I can really see the value in such a system, but unless you can convince the powers
that be to make the Nationals later (as they should be!) (and as the Oly Trials prove
they can be) I don't see it working. Just too much clog on the schedule earlier.
gh
Garry,
An issue on this topic that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Director of Communications
(317) 261-0500 x360
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http://www.usatf.org
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, January 25, 2002
Adidas Joe Concannon Mens Mile: Kevin Sullivan (CAN), Ibrahim Aden,
Kurt Bray wrote:
Most of the crowd in Atlanta it seems came for the high school events,
the place would empty out after the high school events were over.
If it is the HS events that brings out the crowd, doesn't this argue in
favor of including them?
I'm not a big fan of the HS events
When I watched the last Bronco game, I thought that the Orad technology was
already being used.
JL
Post, Marty wrote:
New Scientist says a company called Orad wants to superimpose virtual
athletes into actual televised sports events like running, swimming, etc.
The virtual athletes would be
Contact Dan Wilson-off list.
Randall Northam wrote:
on 5/1/02 2:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Y ask:
ESPN is conducting an online poll on the world's sexiest athletes -- men and
women both. Only trackster listed is Amy Acuff.
My vote goes to that cross country
Test
I have suspected this variation for years as my body weight is always more at
the doctors office than it is at home.
Thanks,
JL
Kurt Bray wrote:
It turns out that gravity on earth is not uniform. There is small but
measurable variation in the force of gravity from place to place. Meaning
'Lord knows that with everything that is going on, the last thing that we need is
another onerous burden.
JL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Canadian public discovered that marketing such an animal was a very onerous burden.
gh
Nice recovery!
JL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just don't get it. I'm sure I've read a post that was more
condescending than the one RANDY TREADWAY
..yada, yada, yada
Now THAT'S a sample of the distance vs non-distance debates
that people say they miss from the 'good old days' of the
Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for information on
sprinting books. Listers were generous with their information and with
their opinions. I would recommend to everyone that they use this list as
a resource for track information.
Sincerely,
John Lunn
A friend of mine has discovered that his son has some speed. The 14 yr.
old is excited and wants to go out for track next year when he gets to
high school. The Dad asked me for a list of good books, but none came to
mind.
Thanks in advance for any help you can give in putting together a
Better yet!
There needs to be an * next to this record to indicate an altitude allowance for
the number of home runs hit in Denver against the Rockies.
alan tobin wrote:
I wonder if Barry is on nadro? Or better yet, if the pitching wasn't so damn
diluted what would either Barry or Micky G
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What the HECK is Northern Colorado doing at the Codfish Bowl in MA? Do they
even know what codfish are out in Greeley?
Jim Gerweck
Running Times
The nerve!
Everyone knows that you can't run in a race unless you know these
things.
I hope that everyone who runs in
to a group in California, Starbucks uses ephedrine as an
ingredient in their Chai Tea.
Imagine the outrage that Ado would feel if he tested positive after
drinking a cup of tea at Starbucks.
John Lunn
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Joe,
We are worried about you!
We pray that you are safe.
Please let us know.
John
thnks for asking, sorry so lat6e to reply we were evacuated
at 10am tues. am in midtown. was moved here in 1998.
the 2nd plane hit almost exactly on my former office window.
have many
TheDenverChannel.com - Group Sues Starbucks Over Tea Ingredient
The athlete is responsible for everything that enters his body?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ephedrine you can get caught with due to careless label
reading.
Generally, and I don't know if all companies follow the labelling laws,
Very unofficial results from Hectel with the automatic timing system on
the fritz, McMullen came in second with a 3:36.1.
Hopefully Ed Gordon is there and will fill us in.
John
3:35.3
The moral being, you can't always get what you want.
Walt Murphy
.but,if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.
Some guy with big lips.
Why not try a compromise? Two jumps at each height until there are 4 or
6 competitors in the event, then go to the three attempts each.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is
sad to know, again.
I will not begin on the
false start rule, but I am dismayed by the lack of
foresight in the field events.
Hey,
It appears to me that truth and gossip are not necessarily unrelated. If
you are passing on the truth, but it is unkind, it can be considered
gossip.
My wife points out that men don't call it gossip- it's called
shoptalk.
John
sean other wrote:
WOW,
This does annoy you doesn't it.
Rich Harrington wrote:
Virus HOAXES are designed to get people to forward them on to everyone they
know, thereby overloading mail systems. ALWAYS check with a credible source
before you cry wolf.
I can't wait to see the next Hoaxe Hoax warning. Do I pass that
along?Does that mean that it
things out, YOU check things out before jumping
my butt!
John Lunn
As everyone has privately and publicly tried to politely tell you(for
your own good, believe it or not), you really should check before
passing on the information. As a matter of fact, I've never seen such
unanimity about any
What the heck!
If the warning is bogus, it's just one more time on the delete button.
If you get no warning, everything is gone.
I say don't be so critical, warn me every chance you get.
And...Thanks for the effort!
John Lunn
"Martin J. Dixon" wrote:
People
should confirm something
Thanks, my thoughts exactly!
After reading this list for the recent past, I wonder why Kennedy would
even show up for the race when he knows that Africans will be there also.
Culpepper could be ready.
John
Ryan Grote wrote:
There
are other people in the field...other Americans even.Everybody
Dragila goes 15'5 at ISU !
ISU men get third at Penn in the 4X800.
Congrats to all.
John
Please explain some things to me.
When tracing ancestry, how far back do you go?
I assumed that if you go back far enough, you and I would have the same root in
this giant tree.No?
If I line up next to you for a race, do I give a flip about your past beyond your
PR?
John
Jon Entine wrote:
Roger Ruth wrote:
When I saw his subject heading, I thought that Bob Hersh was signaling a
return of the t-and-f list to the real world of an unmonitored status
that wouldn't require every message being approved by a monitor/supervisor
before it could be processed by the University of
Richard McCann wrote:
Something was wrong in Beijing in 1993, but we really don't know what.
RMc
The marks were fast because they laid the new track over an existing track
which had a curb. Screwed up everything.
Joking.
JL
Go for it Darrell!!
Conway Hill wrote:
Funny ... I started this thread because I saw the show on television
and saw it as an opportunity to say that "people in the sport are not cheating"
... And that a lot of negativity that has fallen on the sport in the past
couple of years may have indeed
Check the times in your area.
Mcewen, Brian T wrote:
It is my understanding that it is difficult to get enough of certain
vitamins such as C and E
from food alone, especially for those under stress, such as highly trained
athletes.
Something to consider:
10,000 years ago, before SUV's roamed the earth and long
If the Fullerton coach posts his workouts,
and the workout calls for a lap recovery,
what does that mean?
Malmo can you help?
JL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To answer why basketball players are called
cagers, I looked up the answer.Professional basketball began (1896)
in New York City and was at
Jimmy,
After reading some of the stuff that gets posted on this list, I need
all the uplifting I can get.
Obviously it didn't work on you.
Are you getting the same rains that Austin is getting?
Jim McLatchie wrote:
DGS needs to leave the scriptures off his comments.
If he/we need spiritual
OR the Net
Dan Kaplan wrote:
Never trust what you read in the paper. ;-)
Dan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There was an article in the Oregonian newspaper today about the track at
Willamette University in Salem. During some recent work to the track
they discovered that each lap was
I have observed distance runners for several decades and have wondered
how one could predict which talented youngsters would succeed. Ignoring
Mr. Dan Wilson's' warning that correlation does indicate cause, may I
offer the following as factors which may cause a coach to pay more
attention to a
I was impressed by several items. First, I didn't notice many runners who
doubled. Second, it's nice to see a set of brothers made the team, Matt Downin
in the long race and Andy in the short course. Third, Greg Jimerson finished
fourth in the 12K.
The impressive showing by Greg is that he puts
Mike,
That part was fun. Everyone around us in good spirits after we all shifted down
a row, or was it up a row? By the time you got a couple of hot dogs and went to
the boys room a couple of times, you were friends.
In my book they don't need to change anything and I'll return.
JL
mike fanelli
Bob,
COOL!
While you are down sizing cross country, why not do the same to track.
Only 1 weight event. Heck they all spin now, so as long as they spin and have a weight
they must be the same. Let's not water down the events.
Same with the horizontal jumps. If you can jump once,you can jump 3
How about some brave souls out there showing their savvy by predicting
the results of some of this weekends races?
I'll stick my neck out and say that I'll pick Jason Pyrah over Benard
Lagat in L.A. on Saturday. I have no clue about how fast.
John
List members will use their real names and tell us something about their
background.
John J. Lunn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
D W I G H T will make a triumphant return to the list.
GH will send ONE email to the list that won't make people ponder his insanity.
Upon further review, Daryl
Bruce,
Check it out because I think that Sunday gets you there a day late.
JL
Bruce Goodchild wrote:
I live in Boston, and intend to watch the
races this weekend in Franklin Park.
I assume it is on Sunday; does anyone know
what time it starts?
Thanks,
Bruce Goodchild
Cambridge/Boston.
alan tobin wrote:
Everyone who wants to run great and be great should move into a cabin on the
side of mountain and scrape by financially while running close to 200 miles
a week. It's all about sacrifice and seeing how "poor" you are willing to
live.
Alan,
I've been reading your posts
My wife wanted to get the ever popular magazine "Epitestosterone" so that she
could be one of the girls.
She had second thoughts when I told her that I would need to get SIX copies of
Testosterone or we would be out of ratio and may get checked by the postal
inspectors.
Smiles,
John Lu
What has happened to Garry Hill?
Is he mad at the list again?
JL
Conway wrote:
Finally a little conversation on the list ..
Conway Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Doesn't this post finally say that we have carried the discussion too
far?
John Lunn
"P. N. Heidenstrom" wrote:
In trying to explain Suzy Hamilton's fall in the
1500 at the Sudney Olympics, someone suggested:
Apply Ocham's Razor, which states that
in nature th
With the tape delay anyone could be a "specialist". I impressed everyone with my
knowledge of the trampoline.
John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 10/12/00 8:20:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Just wanted to respond to your note below. I have just three
same
piece of information.
I read that she admitted to some mistakes, she is making plans to
correct those mistakes, and she is looking toward the future.No excuses!
She seems to have a much healthier attitude than most of those who post
to this list.
John Lunn
dure that one uses to reach a conclusion, but
that the conclusion is not fact.Certainly the "facts" that I grew up with are not
"facts" today.
The fact is I love to watch Suzy run.
John Lunn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This was passed on to me from Coach Jim Hunt, All American L
this type of garbage on the
net without signature, there are boards for such items.
John Lunn
Track Ever wrote:
I ran into Larry Rawson recently and boy does he have a high impression of
himself!!!
He said how he has been the only consistant track and field TV reporter over
the years. He said
Trackos,
Does anyone know if we have any Olympic team members, from the 1500m up,
who used the "high-low" model for training. I know the obvious runners
who trained at altitude. I'm not aware of any runners who went to low
altitude for speed work before trials.
Thanks!
John
So the winner gets thrice penalized.
RT wrote:
The Utah Host Committee has also announced a bonus to be
awarded to all male medalists:
Gold Medal winners get to take 3 wives home with them, courtesy
of the citizens of Utah.
Silver Medal winners get awarded 2 wives.
Bronze Medal winners
R.T.,
Sometimes you guys pick apart what a man says and completely miss the intent.
What Malmo is saying is correct: Put the athletes on the track, shoot the gun,
stay out of the way, pick the top 3 places(or 4),
and go home.
JL
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