They clearly have too much time on their hands. I wonder if he is going to
talk
to her like a father too.
Sure, why not? Talking to Marion Jones like a father apparently worked.
;-)
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someone high jumping than someone pole vaulting.
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Roger Ruth will be happy about number 3. 2 out of 10(so far). Not bad.
Regards,
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they are featuring the marathon. The piece has an interview Khannouchi.
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at halftime.
Celine Dion sang at the opening ceremonies of the Atlanta Olympics too. So
I doubt that being Canadian is much of an issue for most Americans.
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that there were at least some clean runners at the top all the time.
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or, *to play devil's advocate* (or, if you believe that part of Francis's
writings) Ben was the same caliber as those around him, and when they all
doped, the result was the same, but they just ran faster.
From
, or many
of them, or maybe even most of them, were actually clean. In other words,
maybe Ben really was a no more than a second-tier sprinter who needed to use
dope in order to beat clean athletes who were better than him.
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From: Martin J. Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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of the difficulties of a free country
is that you are also free to be a fool. And Charlie is apparently taking
advantage of all of his freedoms.
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The existence of dirty Americans doesn't make Charlie any cleaner.
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The same thing as the rest of the world is concluding about the US because
of
the suppressed US positives.
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If Charlie has a big history of dope, currently defends
dope
cheerfully embraces dope in athletics
just as much as he ever did. Until he convincingly turns his back on dope
he won't be welcome in the sport.
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I think Francis/Jones/Montgomery are going to win this PR fight. Good
for them.
Footnote: When Diack eventually meets with Jones he should
the chance, he's not going to be
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not
convinced anyone that he can/will/does coach clean.
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But he's already back in the sport, and probably in a bigger fashion than
ever. He certainly hasn¹t' existed in a vacuum all these years. I have
absolutely no evidence regarding this, but I'd fall over if it turned out
that MM
was the only doper), but if they stick with Charlie
it will have the effect of removing all doubt.
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clean, why is he even associating with
dope-drenched publications like Testosterone Nation for crying out loud?
Check them out for yourself - Look in the past issues and you can read
Charlie's interview for yourself:
http://www.t-mag.com/
This where the clean coach gives interviews?
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in
track would, in baseball, be like having them rule on what constitutes a
strike or ball. It would not remotely be the equivalent of addressing
important questions of labor law.
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Curt Flood is not a good example. His suit was
regarding free agency in baseball not the rules of
playing
and made them re-shoot the interview
segment sans CIA questions.
Despite his fearsome Jeopardy reputation, Chuck Forrest was well beaten in
the first round of that special tournament by Rachael Schwartz - the same
woman who defeated me in semi-finals of the 1994 Jeopardy Tournament of
Champions.
Kurt
Was Rachael Schwartz a dark-haired marine biologist? (I met such a
Jeopardy champion once.)
Dark hair, yes. Marine biologist, no. Rachael Schwartz is an attorney.
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minute increase in the amount of air in your lungs - air that was already in
excess.
Any benefit gained from those devices is purely psychological.
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the French never do like Americans of any sort to come over and win their
sporting events.
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As an interesting postscript to our recent AOY thread, I thought I'd pass
along the results of the 2002 Champion of Champions poll of the editorial
staff of the French sports daily, L'Equipe
Hmm, buzz they call it?
Yes, apparently incredulity, ridicule, and derision count as buzz. I
guess it's the old theory about there being no such thing as bad publicity.
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said his medical training was in Ob/Gyn. I'm not sure exactly who I'd turn
to for longevity advice, but it probably wouldn't be my wife's gynecologist.
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I think you'll find that Edell is a rather creative thinker. Check this
out:
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injury, in 2003 Armstrong will become only the second ever
to win five TDFs in a row. There is no one out there in his class.
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is not handling. Longer-term
treatment often involves heart-stimulating drugs to get more effective
action out fo the heart.
From what I remember the medical reports at the time, I don't think
congestive heart failure played any role in FloJo's death.
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legal corticosteroids
from illegal androgenic ones.
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As a reporter myself, I have to agree, I suspect the reporter got something
scrambled, not Shorter. This was a pretty long story, and stories of this
length involve lots of notes. I try to tape every interview I do, but
sometimes
been accepted
as a legal (if not always medically wise) treatment for sports injuries.
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If we want to consider perfectly innocent let's discuss the rules in
effect in 1969 (and '70), a far simpler time. The rule (144:1) said simply
this:
Doping is the employment of drugs
I think they should name it Wind-aided or Personal Worst or maybe just
Nandro.
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Whoa... Has anyone mentioned FATSU yet? Sort of appropriate, being a
fatso USATF mascot...
Dan
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How about the Mortimer brothers?
And on the distaff side: Nenna and Shola Lynch?
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that Craig was a talented athlete, but I had no idea
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Aristotle
From Of the Soul
Quoted in Plutarch A Letter to Apollonius 27
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The immediate cause Kim Gallagher's death may well have been brain-related,
but you can be sure that the underlying cause was a general collapse of her
health due to metastatic stomach cancer. She had been very ill with stomach
cancer for years.
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FloJo, Gallagher and Plucknett, all
performance I recall like that was Edwards' back to back TJ WRs in Goteborg
World Champs in '95. He broke the WR on his first jump and broke it again
on his second jump. I was fortunate to be in the stands on both of these
occasions.
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minutes later.
Those were the days
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With the passing of Bob Hayes, I'm reposting Justin Clouder's analysis from
1997.
Justin writes:
The greatest 100m Runner Of All Time
Quite a subject heading, and a considerable claim to make about any athlete,
especially in an event with as great a history of remarkable athletes and
(or used to)read
the list. Marion advises him to Get off the internet
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see them add some of our own same buts and
howevers to their pieces.
No one has any figures on lost attendance due to this, but it's reasonable
to conclude that it does the sport no good to constantly downgrade the
magnitude of its own magnificent achievements.
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these wonderful achievements for what they are:
wonderful achievements.
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was the first Olympiad in which STEROIDS were
illegal, for crying out loud; blood-doping was not yet on the rule book
radar.
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believe in team rules, because as soon as you draw up
a list of team rules some kid will go out and steal an airplane and then say
that it wasn't covered in the rules.
Likewise, he said that he didn't believe in having team curfews because it's
always your star player who gets caught.
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and
subdued like Van Damme Results.
Thanks.
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The Van Damme Memorial will be shown on ESPN2 tonight from 10pm-11pm(West
Coast), 1am-2am(East Coast). If you don't want to wait, check A
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I know Fred that you live in Florida, but you can run a cross-country race
entirely on snow and ice. Once I went to compete in a cross-country ski
race
but it had rained the night before then froze. The director changed it into
a running race over the same course. My shoes never
, but if you are battling running
injuries, such warnings and stats are easily enough to put you off the
sidewalk and out into the street.
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are mostly metabolic and physiological. A
serious case of the former could end up requiring joint replacement surgery;
a serious case of the latter could end up requiring chemotherapy and
radiation treatments.
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doses than she was.
I don't know anything about V.B-H.'s habits, but in Koch's case, her letter
speaks for itself.
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that the
first and third choices are not mutually exclusive either.
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Please have mercy on those of us hoping to watch the meet pseudo-live
tonight on ESPN2 and do not give away any results in the subject line.
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They must be Kenyans from West Africa
Conversely, David Krumemnacker must somehow be of east African descent,
either that or his recent hot middle distance performances did not happen -
or so we're told.
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brands didn't decrease your wind.
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(groan)
was looking at a copy of the 1948 NCAA Champs meet program today. Back
cover
is an add for Chesterfield, the baseball man's cigarette.
Pictures of a half-dozen studs, prominent among them Musial Dimaggio w/ a
fag hanging otu
classicists - they've been discussing the same old Greek and
Latin texts with no new material to speak of for the past 15 or so
centuries.
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a motorcycle down
that track. So give up on it, guys. Ben and his marks are gone, and (thank
goodness) they are not coming back. Let's focus on cleaning the rest of the
cheaters and their marks out of the sport too and forget about Ben.
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Actually, he shares the sub-9.8 record with Ben Johnson.
Actually, he doesn't. Cheaters' marks don't count.
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. And then their marks won't count - just like Ben's.
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So, let's have the names out in the open, and let's make them not count.
On this we can agree. I'm for full disclosure and for wiping out all marks
put up by cheaters, whoever they may be. I only ask that we do it based on
evidence rather than rumor or cynical suspicion.
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What would Clarke do- institute no-notice out-of-comp testing only
at locations above 7000 meters, and let everybody at lower altitudes
dope to their heart's content?
7000 meters? That's over 21,000 feet. With the possible exception of a few
Sherpas, everyone lives at lower altitudes.
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but killed the grass.
Hence the necessity for the invention of Astroturf.
Since it's not a baseball park anymore, they can simply scrape the paint off
the glass and grow natural grass again if they want to. No special new
technology is needed.
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showing him winning bronze in the 400m hurdles, not silver.
Also, on the same lists his nationality is shown as USA. Did he hold dual
citizenship, or was he somehow counted as an honorary American since he
showed up with the US team?
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is that Webb was unhappy with Michigan or his college coach,
I would have advised him to transfer to another school for a year and
perhaps then, depending on whether he was winning at the college level,
think about the pros.
In any case it's too late now. I wish him great success.
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? It
certainly was far less important that the two false starts that put the
Clown Prince out of the men's race and which were not shown (thank
goodness!). Why did we need to sit through it in the women's race? To me it
just looks like one of those taped false starts that I'm told are never
shown.
Kurt
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Masback ought to laminate this article in plastic and show it to anyone in
the media who asks him
about drug use in track.
Martin J. Dixon wrote:
I didn't know what idiocy to pick out of this article but here goes:
Doctors ought to quit worrying about what ballplayers
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Today I received a package in the mail with seven 10 cents USA stamps on
it. Each of these 10 cent USA stamps has an athlete on it throwing a
javelin. What I found odd
time the following April, the twins'
father would be able to claim a deduction for only the 11:53 baby and not
the 12:07 one.
Come to think of it, this not the only similarity I've noticed between the
thinking at the IRS and the IAAF. Perhaps they draw from a common pool of
bureaucrats.
Kurt
it's the old qualifier system or the new regional system, sprinters
and distance runners both qualify for NCAAs by the same method, so its hard
to see how that's a key difference that somehow explains something about
their relative levels of excellence.
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What's really remarkable is that there have been more posts regarding this
hoax than there were regarding Mt. Sac, the upcoming Cardinal Invite or
even the Penn Relays.
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of turning pro a little premature for someone who
was beaten back into 9th place in his first and only college track race?
Seems to me he has a little more learn about how to beat the college boys
before he takes on the big dogs on the pro circuit.
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(sorry if you get two of these - first
before diving into even deeper waters.
And besides, IMHO, NCAA Champion is a worthy title unto itself - not
something to be thrown away lightly
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Kurt, maybe he is thinking he should grab the chance to get a shoe contract
before his profitability declines after a bad performance or two
Men
1 R. Rop 2:09:02
2 C. Cheboiboch 2:09:05
3 F. Kiprop 2:09:45
4 M. Hussien 2:09:45
5 L. Bong-Ju 2:10:30
6 E. Chebet 2:10:40
7 S. Bor 2:11:39
8 G. Kebede 2:11:43
9 L. Fonseca 2:11:49
10 S. Guerra 2:12:28
Women
1 M. Okayo 2:20:43
Course Record
2 C. Ndereba 2:21:12
3 E. Alemu 2:26:01
4 S.
Another obvious answer:
Girls do not play football at the high school level. There is no pool of
skilled and eager women football players. Colleges would be starting from
scratch.
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A couple obvious answers:
1) Football is expensive. Lots of equipment, large rosters, high
of
labs for dishonorable purposes
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climbing ever since
So in that sport at least, the data suggests that EPO use didn't take off
until about 8 to 10 years ago You can read a summary of their scientific
study at:
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Regionals puts an entire season on the line on one day
Sounds kinda exciting to me Sort of like the Olympic Trials - an important
meet where you need to perform or you won't be at the big dance Just the
sort of do-or-die excitement that spectators like
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just doesn't have as much cachet as the first African American (Vonetta
Flowers) to win gold did a few days earlier.
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and then ran away
literally jumping for joy.
The memory of that is one reason why I find the current Korean officials
indignation over Olympic judging rather amusing.
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exuberance aside, I didn't find the event all that
cool. It seems quite repetitive to me. With no Eddie the Eagle in there,
it was just one nearly identical jump after another - for hours.)
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that is the language that is spoken in the US.
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a split screen for track meets, but the
idea of using this technology for track meets is interesting.
For the field events maybe, but for races there is simply no need.
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and especially the USATF. I know that Dick
The Dick Pound is IOC, but there seems to be be a hefty streak of his
brand of America bashing in the IAAF as well.
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put up with them rather than see no crowd in place of of the usual sparse
crowd. My guess is that USATF includes them precisely for this reason.
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if you were out running and
failed to acknowledge a another runner coming the other way, you would be
regarded as stuck-up.
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the myth about the rudeness of the people of New York must have started
with
rush hour subway traffic. I admit, between 4:30-6:00 on a summer evening
after
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Was Keino predominantly a mile/1500 runner? I recall having read a
biographical sketch a while ago that indicated he was running 5 and 10Ks
and essentially moved down to the 1500 for the 68 Olympics. That is not to
say that he did not run the 1500 throughout his career, but he
that Kip Keino won an
Olympic gold medal in the steeple. I believe he was a miler of some note.
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It is questionable what Keino's achievements tell us about the prospects for
a 3:38 runner of today, since it is difficult to directly compare times
across eras in a meaningful way. My point was that it is possible for a
talented miler to also become a top steepler.
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If Kip Keino
can go ahead and say they have world class speed.
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of a throw.
But
I am fairly certain that Alice Cooper is not his real name!
Alice's real name is something like Vincent Furnier (not sure of the
spelling of his last name).
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1972 = 12
1973 = 12
1974 = 22
1975 = 40
1976 = 35
1977 = 46
1978 = 95
1979 = 165
1980 = 187
1981 = 218*
1982 = 191
1983 = 267
1984 = 165
1985 = 99
1986 = 115
1987 = 96
1988 = 65
1989 = 63
1990 = 75
1991 = 93
1992 = 64
1993
I haven't seen many details nor even much reporting of this, but according
to a short piece in the LA Times a day or two ago, recently retired HJ WR
holder Javier Sotomayor tested positive for nandrolone last July. The test
results were just now being publicly released.
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Others that got relagated to the steeplechase: Ben Jipcho, Filbert
Bayi, Jurgen Straub, Moses Kiptumsomeguy, John Gregorek.
Not to mention Kip Keino.
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site:
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, and presumably
using, illegal drugs?
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somewhere. It was mindless extrapolation at its best(worst).
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at their
specialty events, and at the same time he moved down and destroyed the
sprinters in their events too. Incredible.
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runners can't pass a silly baton
three times in a row. A little more intensity please, runners. Or brains.
You can read the whole piece at:
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among athletes. But perhaps it is indeed time for little retrenchment in
the area of avoiding unsubstantiated and damaging innuendos and accusations.
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