Re: t-and-f: American distance running walking

Netters Rich wrote: The most important component of distance running probably is oxygen delivery and consumption, not mechanical forces, Well here is where I start to differ. Consumption and delivery are not that important. What is that important is the speed at which you are doing it and

Re: t-and-f: How Is Dan O'Brien Qualified

Walt Good Point. Mike

Re: t-and-f: McDonnell quote on regionals

netters thought I would chime in here again. That's a good question that I don't necessarily have an answer to. One explanation might be that Oregon had a more competitive team at the time, and still had interesting, competitive duel meets during the season. The wane in track popularity

t-and-f: Dual Meet Teams

Netters Kebba poses the opinion that the USTCA format is no better then and invite. He is right and wrong at the same time. Correct me if I am wrong Kebba but don't you have about 30 men and women total at Syracuse? Don't most of the Scholarship D1s carry very small numbers? I'll tell you

Re: t-and-f: Budget woes force University of Wisconsin to put sportsin two tiers

Netters A moment to write here between meets. This is what happens when people are not made to read literature. I'd call them and ask if some animals are more equal then others. But the idiots would have no idea what I was talking about. And Heavan for bid if I asked them if they were

t-and-f: Gabriel Orion

hey folks Gabriel Orion arrived today around noon. Had the baby right here at home with a mid wife. Michelle and the baby are both doing fine. Best I have ever seen her after. catch you all later Michael

RE: t-and-f: Sport Is Not A Right (Title IX)

Netters My apoligies, I meant to send my response to Richard In all seriousness I don't have the time (and this is not the place) to write about the subject but if some wants to call me atthe office its ok with me Michael

RE: t-and-f: Sport Is Not A Right (Title IX)

Richard You don't work in an athletic department You have no clue If you want to call me sometime go ahead 570-662-4645

RE: t-and-f: Dare trying to use too-long a pole?

Netters Ken asked: This story suggests that Kevin Dare was trying to use a 16-foot pole (and holding too high?) when he'd been used to a 15-footer Any comments? Yes There is a difference between a 15 foot and 16 foot pole beyond length All poles have sections, the bottom is called the

RE: t-and-f: Sport Is Not A Right (Title IX)

NEtters Richard wrote: When I saw the original post, I winced as a practicing economist But I decide to sit back and wait for the kneejerk response that Michael Rohl's epitomizes It's the classic debate between the extreme individualists and the radical egalitarians And you're both wrong

t-and-f: Eddy Heleybuyck

Netters Hello does anyone have number for Eddy and Shawn? I know this sounds stupid but Shawn is Michelle's agent and . . . well . . . we lost there number. Just email me direct. Thanks Michael Rohl

RE: t-and-f: Sport Is Not A Right (Title IX)

NEtters David Anderson wrote: If enough people want to participate in a sport (demand) then schools will eventually offer the sport (supply), if they have an incentive to do so. This is based on the belief in the invisible hand. Which of course, doesn't exsist. Just as Alabama had to be dragged

Re: t-and-f: What track can learn from Winter Games

Netters Now I never did it from 100m's away but I scared the crud out of my college coach when I ran under a javlin and caught it in practice once. It was like catching a football. I think I would be pretty upset if one of my athletes did that now. oh well getting old. Michael

t-and-f: Meets in the north east

Netters If anyone has any info on any meets that allow OPEN athletes between now and the 10th of April in the North east please let me know. I have a 15-3 vaulter who would like to get in a meet or two before the college season. Thanks Michael

Re: t-and-f: Re: Hosting 2004 Olympic Marathon Trials

on this list a World Championships Bronze Medalist as well. Curt Clausen is moved to third after the 1st place finisher was DQ for drugs. Just an open slam here but it was the IAAF that took 2 years to decide that case. WHere is loud mouth Arne and his defenders explaining that? Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: The re-run

I thought the 2 rules were: 1. Never get into a land war with Asia and... 2. Never get into it with a Sicilian when DEATH IS ON THE LINE! I don't think that word means that you theenk it means. :-) netters, I can't help it if I'm the biggest and the strongest; I don't even

Re: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers

Netters The old school record holder in my hs was a soccer player... who knows what he could have done if he concentrated solely on running- 4:10 or faster in hs?? Most likely, he would hav been slower. Michael Rohl Head Coach TF, X-C Mansfield University

Re: Re: t-and-f: marathon qualifiers

risk frost bite. Michael Rohl Head Coach TF, X-C Mansfield University

Re: t-and-f: marathon taper

. Michael Rohl Head Coach X-C, TF Mansfield University

t-and-f: Billy Mills

Folks, Billy Mills came today and though he gives his talk tomorrow he agreed to have an informal talk with the cross country team. Imagine he spent 3 hours! # hour talking with the kids who were in total awe! Ironically in September when I started here the kids were having the usual Pre's

Re: t-and-f: Jon Drummond arrested in marijuana bust

. Michael Rohl Head Coach X-C, TF Mansfield University

Re: t-and-f: Jon Drummond arrested in marijuana bust

that while I don't have enough runners for one team, I can say splitting the races will stop those coaches whining about how 6k is too hard for women at the D3 level. They ought to be running 8k just like the men! Michael Rohl Head Coach X-C, TF Mansfield University

t-and-f: NCAA, the real story/list life and Death

Netters Interestingly, I have to agree with Gary in his last two threads. THe list is just not the same any more with all the drug talk. I have been on 4 years now and it has gotten worse. I used to read every post not any more. As for the the Tomfoolery at this weekends pre nationals. I

Re: t-and-f: What's Embarrassing?

Netters Roger Ruth wrote: Apparently, on the basis of representation in the world's top 100 rankings in their events, walkers did not perform better internationally than steeplers, or in the other comparisons made, with the exception of the marathon. RR I didn't really agree with Allen's

Re: t-and-f: a historical breakthrough for Ndereba

stats. Michael Rohl Head Coach X-C, TF Mansfield University

RE: t-and-f: Women's AOY

now reached 90%. It isn't the best way to do a comparison but at least it makes some sense of it. Michael Rohl Head Coach X-C, TF Mansfield University

Re: t-and-f: Takahashi trivia EMBARASSING!!

keep hearing this again and again but 200 mile weeks are not the answer because I don't believe there are any runners really running 200mpw. Some say so but Michael Rohl Head Coach X-C, TF Mansfield University

Re: t-and-f: Women's AOY

but holds road as well and wins the World Champs and the Good Will Games. I wouldn't say prejudice. I would just say another example of the walks being over looked. Michael Rohl Head Coach X-C TF Mansfield University 570-662-4645

Re: t-and-f: Re:

Netters Uri wrote: Two comments. 1) Especially given that many will hesitate to nominate Yegorova (the most dominant athlete of the year), Yegorova lost a race. Ivanova Didn't. WHo was more dominant? Look at the margin of victory by percentage. Michael Rohl Head Coach X-C TF Mansfield

Re: Re: t-and-f: Alan Webb on Jesse Owens ballot

year was as good as any on the National Level yet not only was she never athlete of the week but you heard little or nothing other than from me. Michael Rohl

t-and-f: New Email New Job

Netters Please take note that my e-mail address has changed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am now the Head Coach, Cross Country, Track and Field at Mansfield University. For those who need the following my new addresses are: Office Decker G-7 Mansfield University Mansfield PA 16933 570-662-4645

Re: t-and-f: hot weather in the summer??? you gotta be kidding!

Netters Glen wrote: if you polled athletes, I am betting more of them would prefer hot and humid over the cold, wet and crappy conditions in an unnamed Northwest city at two recent major championship meets... then again, I could be wrong. You would be both right and wrong. Most

t-and-f: I'm out......

Hey folks, What a great meet at Prefontaine! Webb was inspiring, Greene was the sportsman of the day! I wonder if any opinions about the one false start rule have changed - I bet it would have sat Jarret in the blocks and kept him from stalingrad the race! On a sad note for those who

Re: t-and-f: Genetics

Netters Again for the 3rd time Mr. Heidenstrom is wrong. nor has anyone else - except Mr Entine - in the seven years I have been a subscriber. There was a fellow named Bruce who wrote Slinger Sancez, Running Gun or some such who often qouted his own book which he was trying to sell.

Re: t-and-f: Genetics

Netters This will be my last comment on this. Mr. Heidenstrom writes: second, he even includes a few relevant paragraphs from 'Taboo'. Both posts are dated 2001 May 05. How long ago is that? So quoting from a book is trying to sell it now is it? Certainly Darrell has a quote from a book

Re: t-and-f: MJ WON'T run in Edmonton

Netters Well the board of directors does have some cojones!

Re: t-and-f: Genetics

in the conversation review Randy Treadway's which succinctly refocused the conversation and furthered the discourse. Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Michael Johnson On Edmonton 4x400

Netters David wrote: given that Michael has no intention of competing in the US Championships. Anyone have any insight in to how this might go? As a fan of the sport who has seen my fair share of US Championships and Olympic trials in the last 15 years I think not allowing him to run

Re: t-and-f: Re: Fast twitch/slow twitch question?

Netters Here is an example of what I consider a valuable contribution by Mr. Entine: The Mystery and Myths of Muscles Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Slow twitch/fast twitch

even seem to be a a mechanism to to demonstrate this. Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: EPO and recovery

at make sense to you? Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Isn't this interesting?

the reason for his resignation as the difficulty of implementing his plans "in the absence of sufficient organizational resolve and commitment." Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Exercises for jumping events

netters Erin Dunham wrote: Are there any exercises that I should avoid? Yeah i can think of one. DON"T EVER RACEWALK! You'll have vertical of 2 inches in about a week:) Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

wit a PB. How many of these kids, "who didn't get the job done" because they did not medal mad PB's? Maybe one of the coaches on the list can posts this. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Drugs the sprints, now the walks? part one

s about. But another day. This got longer then I intended so I split it. The next post is how I think drugs might affect some one like myself. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Drugs - part 2

d anything up on what the drugs might do feel free to correct me. :) Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Suzy Hamilton Interview = High Anxiety

uot; I did not mean that she "choked" as in a bad race because it was a "choke." I meant "choked up" as in "tightened up." Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Re:Angry White Lesbians

. To suggest or in this case intimate by comparison that Kathy is doing something wrong by not wanting her children exposed to such non sense is rude. Some parents recognize the damage done by such viewing of such material. There is a higher level. Try to obtain it. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Re: Where are results? And ohh yeah, Walking

was on the Stanford squad - and why wouldn't they be down abit after losing the Hausers? Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: And ohh yeah, Walking

The point is that essentially 1 in every 100 fitness walkers really race walk for fitness. WHich all brings us back to Randall's question of how many racewalkers are there? The answer: a whole hell of a lot more then he would like there to be. :) Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Suzy Hamilton Interview = High Anxiety

o maybe we will get to see her run the 4k cross country distance at Worlds. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: AOY

enning (sp?) Club has 2500 member by its self. I would bet there are closer to 25,000 people who race walk once in a while in England. In the U.S. the conservative estimate is 500,000 who racewalk (not walk) for fitness alone. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Devers etc.

at Olympics or World there was not an out of competion program in the U.S. until 1989. IAAF ROC tests later. FloJo would never have been tested as many times as Donvan. I don't really care about anything else said on the issue. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: AOY Voting starts now

, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: devers at GP Final

dge called a foulsound familiar? Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Comment from list member

nd relieve him of hi obligation to what he started. My comment was neither threat or promise, just mere warning. Maybe now he will heed it and leave me be. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: u.s. women

Netters What happened? They were sick - just about anyone who had a bad race was simply just sick. As in ill, as in the flu. They got sick. It sucks and it happens. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: In defense of positive tests

don't have to go there.. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: WARNING - comments on first-day RESULTS below

Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: 20k predictions

, race walking, ball room dancing, etc. over track field coverage. I won't discuss the merits of the other sports you listed however just a reminder... RACEWALKING IS PART OF TRACK AND FIELD YOU BONE HEAD! I mean that in the gentlest most affectionate way.:) Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: on the home front

Netters Randy asked: ...say, it's not the middle finger is it?never mind Well in fact it is the middle finger Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Larry Rawson -- what an ego!!!!

until the DAY BEFORE to decide who runs. I'm with Malmo on this. She should have went and decided the day before - Culpeper was already there! Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: thanks

a request for information or help go unanswered. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Canadian wins first Sydney distance running event

then I can run, as some have an aptitude for discus over shot and so on. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: This is what i am talking about

and rivals from the United States sprint team were with him, milling around in the communications centre in the Olympic Village, waiting to buy phonecards to call home. Read on! Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Toughness, Nothing to Lose Thread

asily dare. Just because someone is fast doesn't mean that their coach/advisers shouldn't be there telling them, helping them, deal with the pressure and how to behave. As I said it is all about how you are as a person not how fast you are. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Jacobs/toughness

s attitude and if a few more people would teach their kids that we woul all be better off. There I am done with my rant. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: on Regina Jacobs...

think that it is just this drug obsessed list talking about Regina you are mistaken - you should hear what they are saying in the village. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Greene on fire in Sydney

one word explains it all Gamesmanship! Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Review of Women's 1500 Entries

Netters CANADA - Leah Pells (35) 35? I don't think so. I thought she was 34 in Atlanta and i know she was lat least 3 years older then Michelle when they ran NAIA's in 1987. Pells won Michelle was second. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Alan Culpeper Article

http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/sports/todaysstories/2914-44638.shtml Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Bulgarian fails Olympic drugs test

rmful to the athlete.?" I know the answers of course, just being rhetorical but it does point out that Joe Six Pack ain't as dumb as we sometimes think. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Swimmers branded 'awful' by Edwards

netters So what do suppose crawled up him and died. Sure doesn't seem that is the kind of thing a humble servant of God might say! Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: CNNSI.com - Olympic Sports - Maurice Greene Olympic Diary: John ...

Netters jim wrote: Hmm, could that be Rod DeHaven? Well it ain't suzy but michelle's father is an ag engineer Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: flo-jo

ap me around if i am off on this. But not to much I got in late last night from a clinic and am now only starting on my 3rd cup of java. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: OC Bans Athletes From Net Storytelling

Netters After reading this: OC Bans Athletes From Net Storytelling Classic Mike Rohl Response kicking the knee of an elephant. "They can rot in bloody hell, before they can do this!" :) Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Rome on the Tim Seaman story

research done on it because it is not done often running - the equivalent of racing 30k. The last thing I would want to see is a racewalking track meet the mile 3k 5k 10k all in the same meet walking ...uggg. I maybe a walker but I am still a track and field fan. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: wava tables

close to another suspicious mark. Take that where you like :) Disclaimer this nonsense does not represent the true opinion of the writer as he has destroyed his brain cells in a 9000 foot hypoxic environment and has no opinions. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: RACE WALKER IS WALKING ON FINANCIAL EDGE

Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: can you believe this

ignore him/her/it. Sorry guys I just meant to pass it along for fun not start a real riot or anything. Kind of the "you know the're out there" post. The riot has started on the racewalk list though and they are just reaming the guy. Hope he got what he wanted. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: big PR for Libbie

men never seem to do this and I think they should. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: can you believe this

at is next, the modified mile (one can run, but is not allowed to break a sweat). Racewalking serves no purpose; now take the knowledge that I have bestowed on you, and begin running, for racewalking is just plain stupid. Joe Black Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: John Schiefer

Netters, Sorry to trouble the whole list. John would you contact me please. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Are they nuts?

? Also forecasts there always carry the threat of afternoon thunder storms. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Poor Chen - out

" she said. "I had won a gold medal, and I no longer wished to compete." She attended two universities in California and became fluent in English. She changed her mind about competing and wanted to enter the 20-kilometer walk, which is making its debut for women, in Sydney. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: walking perception

it many times. This is what I should have wrote in response to the Penn relays comments the first time. No tirade meant here just an explanation. From a guy who has never been DQed nor has ever seen a still photo of himself off the ground, though I got close on video once. Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: the U.S. team

nsin on September 9th which is the last feasible chance to get the standard. I would be a huge long shot to make it but I figure I should at least try. The worst that can happen is that I'll get a 10k PR. So close yet so so far. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Chinese won't release Yueling Chen

fit in the meantime knowing this was a possibility. Regards, Bob Bowman Now, if this is the case then Special K would not have been eligible either correct? Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Track and TV

eople were dragging me away. The guy was visibly angry. And to bad. Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: U.S. Championships 2001

Netters, Anyone know the dates for the U.S. Championships next year? Tom Jordan the meet is in your capable hands correct? Do you also have the date for Prefontaine? Worlds are August 3-12 correct? Thanks Good Training, Michael Rohl

t-and-f: Final Thoughts on MJ

are no men doing two individual events in this Oylmpics. Is this the first time this has happened and did anyone else notice? Good Training, Michael Rohl

Re: t-and-f: Final Thoughts on MJ

David Yes, Sorry to have not clarified. Good Training, Michael Rohl