Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-30 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/29/00 11:11:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DPonas writes: Your points are well taken. Check this outI was at the USATF Convention in San Francisco, a few years ago. The USATF had a "break out group" for HS coaches. The association they were supposed to start, never

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-28 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/25/00 10:58:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Ssd writes: take offense at the statements about the Associations failing miserably with grass-roots development. In Southern California, we have well over 100 registered youth clubs and have many, many meets each year. We have

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-25 Thread Ssd
I take offense at the statements about the Associations failing miserably with grass-roots development. In Southern California, we have well over 100 registered youth clubs and have many, many meets each year. We have a very active Youth Committee who is able to be self-sufficient

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-25 Thread WillyBeaman
Since this discussion will not die I will chime in. The US presence at Chile was remarkable to Americans, given the general understanding of our system, and how difficult the timing was. For everyone else it is a chance to feel hopeful. I relate it to the hubbub that came up after Dwain

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-24 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/23/00 7:54:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The athletes have to pick and choose what meets they want to go to since unlike most European countries, you can't drive anywhere in the country in a few hours. Air travel or an extended road trip (1 to

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-24 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/23/00 9:52:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since Craig Masback took office, I have pressed him on the issue of grass roots development. He tends to agree with the above observation, but he has made it clear that improving the lot of the current

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-24 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/23/00 11:05:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For many, unfortunately, being picked is just a plum reward for years of playing USATF politics correctly. I'm glad you said that.

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-24 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/24/00 1:05:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While politics do play a role in selection for staff for worlds, olys, world jrs, etc. the staff reallly is not *at all* to blame. everyone knew before (due to the date of the world jrs) that the US

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-24 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
I think these suggestions address the issue of "elite" high school juniors fairly well, but are such a small piece of the overall development picture that they won't accomplish much. As one who's deeply involved with the Jr athletes let me offer a few suggestions; 1) There should be 3-4

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-24 Thread Michael Rohl
Netters, i have been following this with some interest. I have one question for you all? Are you saying (those that are being critical) that these kids did not compete well because they didn't get medals or because they didn't run well? The one walker sent Robyn Stevens, finshed 16th

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread Elliott Oti
- Original Message - From: David Lesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Netters: As a university teacher I'd like to point out that the worst thing that an American freshman can do is take off a week or 2 in their first semester. Track and field ahletes in general are pretty serious students,

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread Dgs1170
Excellent reply! They do not get it. I was there, I understand perfectly. My athlete has no concern for school, all we had to do was train for the meet. He no concern for fall training, or the first 3-4 weeks of his education. He will go home and start school when he gets back. US kids

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread Runtenkm
In order of importance and attention to this US residing fan: 1. Olympics/World Champs 2. IAAF Season tie 3. College Season tie 3. US Open Season 5. US High School Season Juniors is so far down this person's radar that if it hadn't been brought up on this list I wouldn't have known it was

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread Ryan Grote
Sorry, but I'd rank Olympics #2, and NCAA D1 X-C/THE GROTE POLL far above and beyond all else at #1. Grote adiRP - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 4:16 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment In order of importance

t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/22/00 6:00:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How many elite junior athletes can take time off from school and train at a level to be competitive on the worldwide stage this time of year? Let's keep things in perspective. I would imagine most

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/22/00 9:24:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Netters: As a university teacher I'd like to point out that the worst thing that an American freshman can do is take off a week or 2 in their first semester. Track and field ahletes in general are

RE: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread THOMAS,Graham
scores in her exams to be able to study medicine in uni next year.. Regards - GT - http://homepages.go.com/~oztrack/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 24 October 2000 6:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/23/00 4:34:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In order of importance and attention to this US residing fan: 1. Olympics/World Champs 2. IAAF Season tie 3. College Season tie 3. US Open Season 5. US High School Season Juniors is so far down

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/23/00 7:40:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Geez - US students have it hard.. The Australian team did pretty well in Santiago with many PBs as well as the 7th placing on the medal table. That's despite our domestic track season ending six

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 10/23/00 5:24:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, but I'd rank Olympics #2, and NCAA D1 X-C/THE GROTE POLL far above and beyond all else at #1. Grote adiRP Who's Grote?

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread Runtenkm
In a message dated 10/23/00 5:24:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, but I'd rank Olympics #2, and NCAA D1 X-C/THE GROTE POLL far above and beyond all else at #1. Grote adiRP [EMAIL PROTECTED] replies: Who's Grote? Hmmm. I think the list supervisor needs to be

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Without a strong Junior program, and the US lacks one, there is not too much in the way of a feeder system. Many US colleges recruit vigourously outside the US and these US trained athletes come back to haunt us at Olympic and World championships. They also deny many good kids a scholarship

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-23 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 10/23/00 7:13:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Every international competition usually has a staff totally new to the event and some have no idea as to the quality of the competition our kids will face. . But they can, and should, do all they can to make sure the team is

t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread Aferr48
Sorry, but I don't think this was an embarrassment. We can't revamp our whole scholastic/collegiate seasons just because the IAAF chose to "make points " globally. If anyone was surprised by the USA showing they weren't paying attention. HS/college freshman going to a World Championships in

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread Elliott Oti
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, but I don't think this was an embarrassment. We can't revamp our whole scholastic/collegiate seasons just because the IAAF chose to "make points " globally. If anyone was surprised by the USA showing they weren't paying attention.

Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment

2000-10-22 Thread David Lesley
different, in that the only examinations are given at the end of the academic year, so students are pretty blase' about any given week at the beginning. David Lesley -- From: "Elliott Oti" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Re: Embarassment Date: S