Grasshoppers move to the top of mountains and meditate all day long. Run long, run hard when body says so, stay consistant. To be masters of your own kung fu you must be willing to sacrifice a "normal" life. Half-arse mastery of kung fu will produce half-arse results. Form kung fu groups, move to the top of mountains, away from western false-kung-fu. Rent hut on side of the mountain, share hut with other grasshoppers, pay for hut with measly jobs at local gas stations. Less yen you earn, but more time to master kung fu. Sacrifice western jog security in order to master kung fu. Sacrifice "life" in order to master kung fu. No need sponsered western camps to do this. Anyone can gather other grasshoppers and rent hut on side of mountain. Maybe no job security, maybe not a lot of yen earning, maybe not a lot of "life", but mastery of kung fu you will have. Grasshopper Tobin _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.