Re: TF Fw: t-and-f: Pole vault question

2001-06-01 Thread Shawn Devereaux
Good reasons: For most athletes, taking your 3 attempts in a shorter span is a plus. Usually it'll be 10 minutes between attempts with 5-alive. Bad: It's very hard for the athlete to know when they're up in the order. You actually have to pay attention. It's hard for the fans to follow since not

Re: TF Fw: t-and-f: Pole vault question

2001-06-01 Thread David Dallman
Points in favour, points against, but is it in accordance with the rules? What would happen if a record was set? David Dallman On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Shawn Devereaux wrote: Good reasons: For most athletes, taking your 3 attempts in a shorter span

t-and-f: MAC results and pics at NCAA's

2001-06-01 Thread Tom Borish
For the most complete and up-to-date results from around the Mid-American Conference at the NCAA Outdoor Championships, including several pictures that are posted, visit the MAC track field page at - www.mactrack.net. Thanks, Tom Borish

t-and-f: Immigration Agency Offers Expedited Visas for $1,000 By ERIC SCHMITT

2001-06-01 Thread FranciCash
From: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/01/national/01VISA.html Immigration Agency Offers Expedited Visas for $1,000 By ERIC SCHMITT ASHINGTON, May 31 — The Immigration and Naturalization Service will start charging foreign scientists, athletes, corporate executives and other special workers

Re: TF Fw: t-and-f: Pole vault question

2001-06-01 Thread bobhersh
Message text written by David Dallman Points in favour, points against, but is it in accordance with the rules? What would happen if a record was set? It's in accordance with NCAA rules. USATF permits this in qualification competition and in finals with more than 15 competitors (and then

t-and-f: HS notable - Khalilah Carpenter goes for 4th straight 200 title

2001-06-01 Thread Bob Ramsak
Hi All, A good article about 2000 national junior 100/200 champ Khalilah Carpenter (Columbus-Brookhaven)is here -- http://www.dispatch.com/news/sports01/may01/716093.html Carpenter DQ'd in her district 100, so won't be going for her fourth straight in the shorter sprint, but might actually

t-and-f: Goucher Lassiter Injuries

2001-06-01 Thread John Molvar
Is it safe to assume Goucher and Lassiter are out injured and won't be running the Trials? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Re: t-and-f: Goucher Lassiter Injuries

2001-06-01 Thread Runtenkm
Not sure about Lassiter but isn't Goucher running the mile on Sunday in Portland? Steve S

RE: t-and-f: Official idiocy

2001-06-01 Thread Edward Koch
The NJ high school association does. The situation varies in different parts of the country, but in NJ, the high school officials have their own group and certification process, and are completely independent of the USATF group. And there is little overlap between the two groups. In part, this

t-and-f: Webcast of Freihofers Press Conference

2001-06-01 Thread Dr Kamal Jabbour
TrackMeets.com will webcast LIVE today at 1pm EDT the Freihofer's Run for Women Press Conference, featuring Joan Benoit Samuelson, Blake Russell, Vickie Mitcheel, Kelly Keeler, Jane Welzel, Carmen Troncoso and Mary Knisely. KJ. -- Forwarded message -- 2001 FREIHOFER’S RUN FOR

Re: t-and-f: Official idiocy

2001-06-01 Thread DANIEL DEYO
We have the same problem in Michigan. There are very few high school officials that are registered with USATF. We have a USATF official's officer, but to my knowledge, he has never tried to recruit high school officials for USATF, nor have I seen a list of USATF officials. The Colleges

t-and-f: GAO Report/U.S. College Sports Additions and Deletions

2001-06-01 Thread CHRIS KUYKENDALL
The following federal-government report might (or might not) be of interest to U.S. track field fans, coaches, etc. U.S. General Accounting Office. INTERCOLLEGIATE ATHLETICS: FOUR-YEAR COLLEGES' EXPERIENCES ADDING AND DISCONTINUING TEAMS. GAO-01-297. Washington: U.S. General Accounting

Re: t-and-f: Immigration Agency Offers Expedited Visas for $1,000 By ERIC SC...

2001-06-01 Thread KUKIMBIA
In a message dated 6/1/01 7:45:49 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Immigration and Naturalization Service will start charging foreign scientists, athletes, corporate executives and other special workers an extra $1,000 to speed the processing of their temporary work

t-and-f: Sub 4:32 masters milers sought for USATF nationals

2001-06-01 Thread TrackCEO
Posting this on behalf of Mark: From: Mark Cleary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mens Masters elite mile Eugene June 23rd There will be a Men's Masters elite Mile race on June 23rd at the US Open Outdoor Championships in Eugene (race time 1:40pm.) Any interested competitors capable of running 4:32

t-and-f: rare book search and a few other things (some related)

2001-06-01 Thread Dan Kaplan
After a fairly lengthy search, including calling literally every new and used bookstore in the lower mainland of Vancouver, BC last summer, I finally got my hands on a copy of Charlie Francis' Speed Trap. Having now read it, I'm not at all surprised why it is so hard to come by... As I

Re: t-and-f: Goucher Lassiter Injuries

2001-06-01 Thread WMurphy25
According to quotes coming out of Boluder, Goucher is in great shape and anxious to get rolling on Sunday. Walt Murphy

t-and-f: Gerry Davidson's world W80 mile record

2001-06-01 Thread TrackCEO
Greetings, all: I wrote about Gerry's WR mile for my paper. Check out: http://www.uniontrib.com/sports/20010601-_1s1fitness.html Thanks for your attention. Ken Stone http://www.masterstrack.com

RE: t-and-f: rare book search and a few other things (some related)

2001-06-01 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
Dan, One of the things that is rarely pointed out when people discuss the supposed superiority of the 60's generation (and their sub-4 guys) over the 80's and 90's kids (who supposedly failed to break 4:00) is: Jim Ryunbroke 4:00 ... and he also went on to break WR's, take NCAA

t-and-f: adidas Meet TV?

2001-06-01 Thread Ryan Grote
Any coverage nationally or locally of the adidas Oregon Track Classic on Sunday? It has been on before. Not the meet's fault. What happened to the TV package of the Golden Spike Tour or whatever USATF drummed up? How about that great meet in Carbondale, Illinois? TFA? Raleigh? Oops. And

t-and-f: NCAA team battles tighter

2001-06-01 Thread GHTFNedit
check out the TFN website (www.trackandfieldnews.com) to see how both men's and women's battles remain very much up in the air. w/ UCLA losses and USC gain in the shot yesterday, Trojan women now projecting as 60-57 winners. That's w/ USC winning the 4x1, though, and after prelims, not sure

Re: t-and-f: Oregon Abolishes High Jump

2001-06-01 Thread GHTFNedit
Actually, Oregon has apparently gone farther than that and banned all field events. As with most meets on the planet (no matter how high the quality), field-event presentation remains absolutely abysmal. No better example can be given than yesterday, in which the decathlon PV started at

t-and-f: Muna Lee

2001-06-01 Thread GHTFNedit
i suppose i saw her run in the OT last year, but don't recall her, so let's call her a runner I've never seen before. I bring that up becuase she rates highest in the category of runner I'm most impressed with I've never seen before. she's wispier, but reminds me of nothing so much as a young

t-and-f: U.S. TV Reminder

2001-06-01 Thread WMurphy25
I'm torn...I want to rip Grote for all his griping, but all I have time for right now is to post the upcoming TV schedule (I was depressed before Grote's post. After a full week of beautiful weather, it's now raining and 20-degrees cooler in Eugene as we get ready for tonight's events.

Re: t-and-f: adidas Meet TV?

2001-06-01 Thread Kurt Bray
According to the RW website, the Oregon Track Classic will be televised June 10th on ESPN2. The US Open from Stanford will be shown the same day on CBS. And the Prefontaine Classic WAS televised live - I watched it. You must have been watching Beverly Hills 90201 reruns and missed it. And

t-and-f: re: auto-timing

2001-06-01 Thread ppalmer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (as part of a much longer piece): On to a related point... Some may recall a series of posts I made not too long ago questioning the sensibility of auto timing. My basic premise being that it makes little sense (to me) that the hand timer's reaction time should be

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV Reminder

2001-06-01 Thread John Lunn
The moral being, you can't always get what you want. Walt Murphy .but,if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need. Some guy with big lips.

Re: t-and-f: adidas Meet TV?

2001-06-01 Thread Ryan Grote
No, no I saw it, problem is not enough people did. CBS used to show the meet live. A lot more people watch anything on CBS than anything on FoxSports NY, which is what the meet was on. I happen to have Fox Sports New York, but its not standard. MSG is standard. A lot more people have MSG as

t-and-f: High Performance Vancouver

2001-06-01 Thread Tighe Jerry
For those planning travel through Vancouver to Edmonton for the World Championships. Please forward to other country lists. Hershey Harriers A.C. 2001 ALL COMER TRACK MEETS HIGH PERFORMANCE SECTIONS VANCOUVER CANADA, BURNABY CENTRAL Secondary School Track (Canada Way Norland) TUESDAYS:

Re: t-and-f: re: auto-timing

2001-06-01 Thread Dan Kaplan
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must be missing something: if it is a new event, it is also a harder one, yet the modern sprinters are running faster. Yes, but it took them roughly 20 years to run faster, which is a very long period of stagnation. The difference would be only greater

Re: t-and-f: U.S. TV Reminder

2001-06-01 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated 6/1/01 14:06:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .but,if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need. Some guy with big lips. Steve Tyler?!!!

Re: t-and-f: Oregon Abolishes High Jump

2001-06-01 Thread Bruce Goodchild
Last night I watch the PAC-10 meet on my satellite TV - fine meet, BUT why was there no clock showing on the screen as the races progressed? Very aggravating! Bruce Goodchild. Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, Oregon has apparently gone farther than that and banned all field events.

t-and-f: and then reality set in....

2001-06-01 Thread GHTFNedit
in more htan 30 years of coming to meets in the track capital of Lane County, yesterday was probably close to the hottest--mid '80s. but now, 30 minutes before the first event of hte day, it's a brisk 57 and several hours of chilling rain has finally let up. now, perhaps, the men's team-title

Re: t-and-f: adidas Meet TV?

2001-06-01 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 6/1/01 5:22:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guys running sprints who won't be helped at all by the newfangled prize money structure at nationals. For every Maurice or Marion that doesn't need the prize money that USATF is offering, I think it's safe to say that there

Re: t-and-f: adidas Meet TV?

2001-06-01 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
For every Maurice or Marion that doesn't need the prize money that USATF is offering, I think it's safe to say that there are many more athletes who will welcome the influx of cash, as modest a sum as it may be. What did you expect, $50,000 per event from the start? How about giving USATF

Re: TF Fw: t-and-f: Pole vault question

2001-06-01 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Points in favour, points against, but is it in accordance with the rules? What would happen if a record was set? David Dallman There are numerous situations where the games committee can make changes in the way a meet is conducted. Perhaps

t-and-f: Ideas for Young Talented Athletes

2001-06-01 Thread Steve Bennett
Title: There may be people associated with young athletes that will find this article interesting. Ideas for Young Talented Athletes There are many very young (9-13yrs old) extremely talented athletes out there. Some of them like Australia's Georgie Clarke can make great progressions at an

t-and-f: No Mens 400 Hurdle Finals

2001-06-01 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
The link for the NCAA men's 400 hurdle final takes you to the semi results. -- Wayne T. Armbrust, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computomarx™ 3604 Grant Ct. Columbia MO 65203-5800 USA (573) 445-6675 (voice FAX) http://www.Computomarx.com Know the difference between right and wrong... Always give

RE: t-and-f: Oregon Abolishes High Jump

2001-06-01 Thread malmo
We've addressed this failure by the meet management many times before. POST THE DAMN RESULTS ON THE SCOREBOARDYOU PAID FOR IT -- USE IT!!! (please) malmo At no time during the first two days of the meet has field-event data gone on-screen,other than a next-day (or hours-later) recap of

t-and-f: NCAA women's steeple final

2001-06-01 Thread Michael Scott
Women¹s Steeple Final Lap 1 ­ 76.0 ­ Kleinmann, Meldrum, Nilsson, Pack Lap 2 ­ 2:36.0 ­ Kleinmann, Nilsson, Meldrum, Bennion, Hils Lap 3 ­ 3:36.1 -- Kleinman, Nilsson, Jackson, MacDonald, Meldrum, Bennion, JACKSON takes lead just before water jump Lap 4 ­ 5:15.8 -- Jackson, MacDonald,

Re: t-and-f: re: auto-timing

2001-06-01 Thread Conway
I have to agree with Dan ... There was a period of almost 20 years without the 100 record being broken ... Compare this to the early to mid 70's just before the WR rules were changed to auto timing ... During that period when hand times were still accepted for WRs Don Quarrie tied the 9.9

t-and-f: Meets on TV, $$, etc

2001-06-01 Thread mjroth
Grote, and other naysayers: While we all bitch here about the state of the sport, what are you doing to improve the situation? Its so much easier to complain without doing anything about the problem(s), but this does not help anyone. I'm sure the National Office NJ Association of USATF could

RE: t-and-f: No Mens 400 Hurdle Finals

2001-06-01 Thread Ben Hall
Dude, Chill! PLEASE, go to http://www.flashresults.com or http://www.cyberscoreboard.com (both have been mentioned on this list in the last couple days). At each of them I was easily able to find the proper results. If you can't find them there then it is an OE (operator error). There is only

t-and-f: 2001 Elite U.S. TV Schedule

2001-06-01 Thread mjroth
From the USATF website - MJR ___ 2001 Elite U.S. TV Schedule All times Eastern unless otherwise noted. Check back soon for more events! Broadcast Date TimeNetwork Broadcast June 3 4:30-6:00 pm

t-and-f: 18 Olympic Medalists to Compete at the June 3 adidas Oregon Track Classic

2001-06-01 Thread Michael Scott
18 Olympic Medalists Converge on Portland for adidas Oregon Track Classic Athletes from 28 Countries Scheduled to Participate Sunday, June 3, 2001 Mount Hood C.C. Portland, Oregon Sports News Release For Immediate Use EVENT BY EVENT HIGHLIGHTS 12:00 Noon ­ SoBe Sports System

t-and-f: Lewis's world plan

2001-06-01 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Saturday 2 June 2001 Tom Knight DENISE LEWIS and Katharine Merry take their first, tentative steps on the road to winning gold at the World Championships by wearing the black vest of Birchfield Harriers in today's men and women's combined league match at the Alexander

t-and-f: IOC will target `asthma' victims

2001-06-01 Thread Eamonn Condon
The Electronic Telegraph Saturday 2 June 2001 Tom Knight ATHLETES CLAIMING they are suffering from asthma are the target of new anti-doping rules which will be introduced later this year by the International Olympic Committee. Under the new rules, which come into effect on September 1,

t-and-f: NCAA men's 5000

2001-06-01 Thread Michael Scott
Men¹s 5000 Final 1st Kilo ­ 2:50.71 ­ Kimani, Lane, Shay, Torres, PACK; 4:34.0 @ 1600-meters 2nd Kilo ­ 5:41.3 -- Kimani, Shay, Torres, Lane, Kimeli, Asmeron 3rd Kilo ­ 8:28.26 -- Kimani, Bazzi, Shay, Torres, Asmeron// 9:00.5 @ 3200 Kimani, Bazzi, Torres start break, Lane leads chase 4th Kilo