t-and-f: LA Times' take on Glickman

2001-01-06 Thread ken . stone
Y ask Y: Alan Abrahamson of LA Times (see http://www.latimes.com/sports/times/20010105/t01145.html) offers an interesting angle on Glickman 1936 story: Owens told Johnson, "Probably if Glickman and Stoller had been from USC, they'd have run the relay." And Mack Robinson's wife, Delano, said

t-and-f: Armory Track Webcasts

2001-01-06 Thread Dr Kamal Jabbour
In a joint venture among TrackMeets.com, the Armory Track and Fordham High School, students from Fordham's A/V club with technical support from TrackMeets.com will webcast live a number of track meets from the 168th Armory in New York starting with today's Hispanic Games. DR KAMAL JABBOUR -

Re: t-and-f: Coaching selections

2001-01-06 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:06:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dgs1170 writes: When is the issue due out? Let me guess, the AOY will be Marion Jones. Am I close? Hahahaha!!! And the AOY, will be Alekna. We'll start posting AOY and Rankings highlights on the TFN site in the middle

t-and-f: Unusual names in our sport

2001-01-06 Thread Conning
Sophomore Destany Clearly (Fall River High School, McArthur, CA) won the Northern Section 400 meters in 1:00.32 in May, 2000. She placed 24th overall in the State Meet Preliminaries at :59.93. I wonder if she sees her destiny clearly. Keith Conning Vacaville

t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Michael J. Roth
Conway, For the most part, the Club system in the US is non-existent. There are a few milling around, Indiana Invaders is a good example, but for the most part there is nothing going on. That is THE problem w/ TF is the US. This is the reason that a USATF National Club Championship was added

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Dgs1170
Part of the problem in the US is the notion that ideas can be force fed to the masses, or that the ideas must evolve from the office. In any organization the most important part is the grass roots division. In track the grass roots division is waiting for the executives to give them the ideas and

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Mpplatt
In a message dated 1/6/01 3:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, In a message dated 1/6/01 3:16:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the most part, the Club system in the US is non-existent. There are a few milling around, Indiana Invaders is a good example, but for the

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Michael J. Roth
Darrell, I agree that the club system cannot wait for Indy to do something, it must go for its own gold. That said, the Nat Club Champs is a great idea, one I've been behind for some time. We also need to go at this from a professional viewpoint, which means corporate sponsorship, etc.

Re: t-and-f: Unusual names in our sport

2001-01-06 Thread Dan Doherty
How about former Cal Irvine runner Buffy Rabbit!! Dan Doherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: t-and-f: Unusual names in our sport Sophomore Destany Clearly (Fall River

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread mmrohl
Netters Mike Platt wrote: Wrong! Three times. 1) Clubs are very existent and are all over the country. 2) And the club championships were instituted many years before this year. 3) The club system or lack thereof is not THE problem with TF. Mike would you then please enlighten me as to

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
For the most part I agree with both Mike and Darrell. The club system needs to begin at the grass roots and work its way up. Both on the national level and the local level, USATF needs to get fully behind this and help support and stimulate local club development. This means building on

t-and-f: Owens' OSU LJ record revisited and select results from the OSU Invitational

2001-01-06 Thread Bob Ramsak
Hi all, Just got back from Ohio State'sFrench Fieldhouse, where a display in the lobby listsJoe Greene's wind-aided 27-7+ from the 1989 NCAAs as theBuckeye outdoor LJ record ! I don't understand... Some quick results Ohio State junior Katy Craig spun a 64-3.25 (19.59)auto qualifier in

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Mpplatt
In a message dated 1/6/01 8:16:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike would you then please enlighten me as to what clubs there are and why the lack of a support system of 22-32 sub elite athletes and elite athletes who don't go to college is not a problem? I

Re: t-and-f: Owens' OSU LJ record revisited and select results from the OSUInvitational

2001-01-06 Thread Roger Ruth
Earlier today, Bob Ramsak wrote, Hi all, Just got back from Ohio State's French Fieldhouse, where a display in the lobby lists Joe Greene's wind-aided 27-7+ from the 1989 NCAAs as the Buckeye outdoor LJ record !I don't understand... That leaves me wondering when wind measurements became a

Re: t-and-f: LA Times' take on Glickman

2001-01-06 Thread R.T.
The puzzle with that allegation, Olympic historian John Lucas said Thursday, is this: "What profit would it have been for Dean Cromwell or the [American] Olympic Committee or Avery Brundage to replace two Jews with two blacks?" Lucas, a Penn State professor, said, "I have no answer." A few

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Boston and New England is filled with clubs that provide coaching and support for young athletes. There are indoor and outdoor facilities available in Syracuse, Rochester, Buffalo as well as many other cities here in the East. Coaching is always available. Most of the clubs I know do provide

t-and-f: Club system

2001-01-06 Thread BFullem1
As Mike Trujillo pointed out, where are the sub-elite, sub-master, local clubs? Here in the Northeast there are a few, Westchester Puma, GBTC, Reebok Boston, CMS, BAA and Greater Lowell. The one common denominator is that these clubs all have dedicated Coaches. I speak for Westchester Puma from

Re: t-and-f: Club system

2001-01-06 Thread Mpplatt
In a message dated 1/7/01 12:39:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As Mike Trujillo pointed out, where are the sub-elite, sub-master, local clubs? Here in the Northeast there are a few, Westchester Puma, GBTC, Reebok Boston, CMS, BAA and Greater Lowell. The one

t-and-f: NCAA ALL AMERICAN.....

2001-01-06 Thread Mark Bomba
Could someone please tell me (being a canuck and all) whether the NCAA has "all-american' awards for americans only? ie an american in say 40th XC overall but the 20th american would be given a special award as being an 'american all-american'. Thanks, Bomba = "Cassidy early on

Re: t-and-f: Owens' OSU LJ record revisited and select results from the OSU Invitational

2001-01-06 Thread jdunaway
At 07:51 PM 1/6/01 -0800, you wrote: Earlier today, Bob Ramsak wrote, Hi all, Just got back from Ohio State's French Fieldhouse, where a display in the lobby lists Joe Greene's wind-aided 27-7+ from the 1989 NCAAs as the Buckeye outdoor LJ record !I don't understand... That leaves me

Re: t-and-f: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Dgs1170
Another facet to this issue is where do these teams/clubs run. The teams clearly exist, but where are they supposed to compete during the summer, when the elite athletes are running 2-3 times a week? DGS The G.O.A.T.

Re: t-and-f: NCAA ALL AMERICAN.....

2001-01-06 Thread Dgs1170
The funniest joke in the world. People that leave in the States cal themselves Americans, as does the rest of the world, but America is a big place. To answer the question, yes. You can finish 40th, but if 33 of the athletes in front of you are foreigners, you are an All-American. DGS The

t-and-f: re: clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Michael J. Roth
I guarantee if I was young again and inspired to achieve I could find support and coaching and facilities, EASILY. It may not be dropped in my lap but, it is there. Maybe there are not enough of a pool of talented kids to get results from and maybe there is not enough desire and ingenuity to

Re: t-and-f: Re: Clubs

2001-01-06 Thread Baggettpv
Mike (and all), The Club situation is one of trying to financially make it work. Here in Portland I am working on the concept of the emerging elite being part of the coaching staff for the developing athletes (youth) and getting paid as such. But still not sure of the most efficient model. We