RE: t-and-f: Doping, but also more stuff

Mats, Thanks for expressing all my thoughts about this issue - you managed to do this even though I have never spoken to you and do not remember ever meeting you (I did attend the 1995 Goteborg WC and the preceding scientific Congress, so maybe we have met there, but do not realize it). I am

RE: t-and-f: RE: IAAF threat to expel US federation

Uri, I am not sure you have read my follow-up post to Mats. From your comments and copy below I don't think you have. My point in that post was that my perception of Dr. Ljungqvist can only be informed by the information I have about him which, in this case, comes from his quotes in the media.

t-and-f: Not just TF

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/13/sports/13FINN.html By EDMUND L. ANDREWS HELSINKI, Finland, March 10 — The systemic doping of Finland's most elite athletes might not have been discovered but for a misplaced medical bag packed with syringes, needles and drugs used to manipulate blood-cell

Re: t-and-f: Proposed rule changes-IAAF

I don't get it either ... Why change the false start rule ??? To copme into conformity withthe NCAA ??? They need to be more concerned with making sure that starters are less reliant on that "beep" in their ear, as eveidenced in last years Olympics and US Olympic Trials .. The one falsel start

t-and-f: Re: NCAA thoughts

although I am not saying that a qualifing meet, a la Ncaa XC, would be the best solution, it would certainly help some out. Those in the northeast that don't fly to California (yes I am talking about my team) have trouble qualifying for Ncaas. Most if not all of our meets come in cold and

Re: t-and-f: Proposed rule changes-IAAF

In a message dated 3/14/01 9:12:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The one falsel start rule hasn't improved the NCAA nor California High School Sprinting ... No? At least in the East, I don't see any of the BS that goes on at Open races, with their innumerable false starts. There is maybe ONE

Re: t-and-f: Decathlon for women

--- Ed Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More to the point, the women's 100m hurdles is so radically different from the men's hurdles that it might as well be a different event. It is. 100m vs. 110m. :-) Dan = http://AbleDesign.com - AbleDesign, Web Design that Can!

Re: t-and-f: No zones 4x100

Tom Murrell wrote: Why not give each runner a fixed starting point (100, 200 300 meters or 80, 180 280) and let them pass where ever they wish. Do away with zones, let them pass it wherever but they must pass it. Tom What is wrong with the event the way it is? I haven't heard of any

Re: t-and-f: No zones 4x100

Why not have just two rules? (1) The baton must travel from the start to the finish line. (2) No more than four runners can be on a relay team. If Michael Johnson can singlehandedly defeat a four-man relay team from some small country, so be it!

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3477

As is so often the case these days, many people seem to insist upon the polar extreme in response to an extreme. How about this race? Strength runners with weak kicks try to wear down the sprinters. The sprinters try to keep the pace slow. Someone with guts takes it out hard with the help of

t-and-f: Hurdle heights

The women's hurdles need to be raised because as the heights currently stands, very little hurdling is required of the women. This is very prominent in the 400ih. As it stands currently in the short hurdles the men are required to clear a hurdle 122% higher than their leg length, and the women

t-and-f: quotes you won't find in your local paper or see on TV

Coming off the field after her 4th-place finish at the World Indoor, Stacy Dragila was asked what went wrong. Her succinct retort: "I was shit." gh

Re: t-and-f: Hurdle heights

In a message dated Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:39:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The women's hurdles need to be raised because as the heights currently stands, very little hurdling is required of the women. This is very prominent in the 400ih. As it stands currently in

Re: t-and-f: false-start rule (was: Proposed rule changes-IAAF

In a message dated Wed, 14 Mar 2001 9:12:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, "Conway Hill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't get it either ... Why change the false start rule ??? To copme into conformity withthe NCAA ??? They need to be more concerned with making sure that starters are less

t-and-f: Bryan Bronson Return?

Does anyone know if Bryan Bronson has a comeback planned? Bob Bettwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director - Program Control Washington Group SRS Technologies (703) 351-7266 P.S. This is NOT a drug related post!

Re: t-and-f: Proposed rule changes-IAAF - relay zones

I believe the change in the 4x100 relay zones is not to add 10m to the existing passing zone, but to combine the current acceleration zone (10m) and passing zone (20m) into one 30m zone. In other words, there would be a 30m passing zone with no additional acceleration zone - the outgoing runner

Re: t-and-f: the list

Those were the days. Anyone still remember Mike Fox? G-Rex [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 9 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: steve... i couldn't have said it any better! i can't take myself off this list though because I need to stay in the "loop." seriously, i think

Re: t-and-f: Hurdle heights

Garry talked about changing the distance between the hurdles (Men's 110HH). Tom Murrell talked about "free floating" in the 4x100 meter relay. How about "free floating" hurdle placements. Each hurdler must run 10 hurdles within 110 meters and comes to meet management with the specs on how far

t-and-f: Re: Hurdle heights

Hello: Read your article with interest on t-and-f, you stated: "As it stands currently in the short hurdles the men are required to clear a hurdle 122% higher than their leg length, and the women 100% in the long hurdles it is 103% to 91%." How did you derive these relative percents? What

Re: t-and-f: Hurdle heights

gh wrote: Nice numbers! I've always thought that there was also a concomitant need for greater distance between the hurdles as well (also for the men, but that's another story) because of the way so many people have to chop their strides. If they're changing one parameter, they should change

t-and-f: more iaaf field-rule changes

if you go to the iaaf site (www.iaaf.org) you'll see a new note regarding not only the proposed false-start rule and the two-miss rule in the verticals, but also an explanation of the trying of a few 4-attempt rule in the throws and horizontal jumps. If 8 or fewer competitors, just 4 attemtps.

t-and-f: Championship races vs. GP paced ones

James Temp. writes: Non-paced championship races are soo different from paced GP races it isn't funny. While this is CLEARLY true ... the top PLACERS in a strategic championship race and the fast-from-the-gun, rabitted ones on the Euro circuit are usually not too different. Looking at the

RE: t-and-f: Hurdle heights

Idon't know jack about hurdling ... at least about hurdling those hurdles that fall down when you hit them But do all the elite hurdlers have the same leg length? Men and women? Is that why they decided to become sprint hurdlers ... because their legs were exactly 122% and 100% of

Re: t-and-f: more iaaf field-rule changes

In a message dated 3/14/01 3:38:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If 8 or fewer competitors, just 4 attemtps. isn't that pretty much what happens in most HS dual meets anyway? Jim Gerweck Running Times

Re: t-and-f: Proposed changes in IAAF rules

There won't bemany more DQ's because there will be very few false starts. Ed Paul Banta Wrote: My guess is that few, if any, meet directors of invitational meets will be in favor of going to a one false start rule in races from 400 down. They put a lot of time, money and promotions

Re: t-and-f: Hurdle heights

Although the discussion started out with IAAF rules, I'd like to make some observations about hurdle height and spacing for young athletes. Most 12-14 year old boys cannot hurdle over 39" barriers. But once a boy can deal with the hurdle height, 3 stepping is no problem because the hurdles are

Re: t-and-f: Hurdle heights

In a message dated 03/14/2001 4:07:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brian (who "is blind", "has a tainted view" and "ALWAYS operates from the negative") While I was raised to take the high ground, I will not in this case. I will play your childish game Brian. Read my

Re: t-and-f: false-start rule (was: Proposed rule changes-IAAF

Anyone who had to sit and suffer through the false starts in the M/Ws' 60 60H at USATF indoors in Atlanta this year should be in favor of the one false start rule also. Just about each heat and the finals had one and the womens' 60m final had 3! It is obvious that many athletes are trying to

Re: t-and-f: field-falsie (was: Proposed changes in IAAF rules

In a message dated Wed, 14 Mar 2001 8:52:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IThe starter by rule is to hold the gun until all runners are set, then fire the gun. Not at his discretion, when they are set he is to shoot! Both IAAF and USATF rules grant the starter

Re: t-and-f: Re: NCAA thoughts

Dan, You have a great point. The weather was always a barrier for us in Utah as well. Keep in mind, however, that since I've been living in Southern California, I can't think of more than about 4 or 5 guys that were worth anything at all. Keep in mind that this is on the collegiate level.