Re: t-and-f: best mile improvements since high school

2001-06-10 Thread David Dallman
It is true that the first sub 4-minute mile was at Oxford and it is true that Roger Bannister attended Oxford University. However, he had already left Oxford University when he ran the 3:59.4. He, along with Chris Brasher and Chris Chataway, were running for the AAA (the English t/f association

Re: t-and-f: Peregrine WMNS PV RESULTS

2001-06-10 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 6/9/01 10:56:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Back to reality and the inhuman efforts of Stacy Dragila! 1. Stacy Dragila, USA 4.81m (15-09.25); 2. Kellie Suttle, USA 4.41m (14-05.50); 3. Mary Sauer, USA 4.31m (14-01.75); 4. Melissa Mueller, USA 4.31m (14-01.75);

t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: Marion Jones Joins NBC as a Reporter

2001-06-10 Thread FranciCash
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t-and-f: Peregrine MNS SP RESULTS

2001-06-10 Thread Ben Hall
I'm sure the Stanford crowd liked the fast middle distance times but Godina and Dragila stole the show. Godina's series (thanks to flashresults.com): John Godina21.87 21.44 21.79 21.95 21.06 21.50 21.95 (72-0.25) 1. No fouls. All the other competitors had at least 1. 2. His

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-10 Thread FMBYRNES
In a message dated 6/9/01 2:16:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know that he was state MVP of football (in VA) running the option, but could he have been a great runner as well? I think so. I think Iverson could be a world class athlete in any sport that he pursued.

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-10 Thread JTFlash
Uh, maybe I'm wrong butcan't most WC guys who run 3:53 and better run at least 47-48? Just wonderin'. JT

t-and-f: 100-800 double

2001-06-10 Thread malmo
Maybe it's old news, but an impressive 100-800 double at the Oregon HS State meet. malmo PLACE ATHLETE NAME YR SCHOOLTIME PTS = = == = === 1 Eli Markstrom 12 South Eugene

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-10 Thread Dave Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, maybe I'm wrong butcan't most WC guys who run 3:53 and better run at least 47-48? Just wonderin'. Probably. And even most American high school kids who have run 3:53 have also run 47 on a relay. Dave Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-10 Thread phalford
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner? Uh, maybe I'm wrong butcan't most WC guys who run 3:53 and better run at least 47-48?

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-10 Thread Andrew Eldredge-Martin
There is a huge difference between 3:53 guys and 3:45 1500m guys! -drew On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, phalford wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Allen

Re: t-and-f: Bannister

2001-06-10 Thread Ed Prytherch
Phil is correct. The 4:53 that I gave as his freshman mile was run in October '46, at the start of his freshman year. That may have been his first mile race. The 4:24.6 was run in June 1947. Ed. - Original Message - From: Philip J Wyckoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

t-and-f: Minnesota State Meet

2001-06-10 Thread Keenan Robbins
800 Trent Riter1:49.76 - beats state meet record of Steve Holman, a few tenths behind all time state record set by Jason Owen Tom Schmidt1:51.82 - only junior in the field Bill Bowser1:52.98 Dan Knappmiller1:53.22 Zach Swartzendruber1:53.91 Ben Hanson1:54.21 Jon Gargano

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-10 Thread alan tobin
That's a big statement. Of course Tiger's dad probably thinks Tiger could have beaten Ali in a boxing match and Tiger is bigger than MLK Jr. Tiger's dad seems a bit off to me. I bet there's a whole skeleton army in that family's closet. Alan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-10 Thread vincent duncan
When Tiger Woods was six he said his son was going to be the best . He was not wrongand this was on the TV...when Tiger was six. hmmm alan tobin wrote: That's a big statement. Of course Tiger's dad probably thinks Tiger could have beaten Ali in a boxing match and Tiger is

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-10 Thread phalford
Sorry, I was thinking JT was referring to 3:53 as 1500 metre time! The mile isn't as prominent in these parts. - Original Message - From: Andrew Eldredge-Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: phalford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 4:29 PM Subject: Re:

t-and-f: Recent women's vault progression

2001-06-10 Thread Roger Ruth
Stacey Dragila's recent domination of the women's vault and her world record bettering 4.81m yesterday at Palo Alto threaten to erase memory of other recent champions. This summary of record improvements and ties since 1995 might provide some perspective on their accomplishments. 4.12*

t-and-f: Ryan Hall 1500

2001-06-10 Thread GHTFNedit
Hall's 3:42.70 at Stanford last night made him No. 3 prep ever in the 1500, and if you combine the 1500 and mile to get a more complete picture, he's No. 6 (behind Webb, Ryun, Danielson, Liquori and Sage). Splits: 59.2, 60.2 (1:59.4), 60.3 (2:59.7), 43.0. Last 400 was 57.6. Fell just short

Re: t-and-f: Allen Iverson- 400 meter runner?

2001-06-10 Thread Mpplatt
In a message dated 6/10/01 2:16:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When Tiger Woods was six he said his son was going to be the best . He was not wrongand this was on the TV...when Tiger was six. hmmm He probably scanned the competition at the time

Re: t-and-f: NCAA USATF Champs in Same City

2001-06-10 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Sat, 9 Jun 2001 9:01:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Chas. L. Shaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Listers, Can any of you with full bookshelves dig up whether or not the NCAA Championships and the USATF (previously known as TAC and AAU) Championships were ever held at

t-and-f: TV Track Coverage?

2001-06-10 Thread Trey Jackson
If today's broadcast of the Palo Alto meet is any indication of the quality of the Edmonton Worlds, we are all better off watching reruns of old sitcoms on Nickolodian TV. In the past 20 minutes of coverage, there has been exactly 43 seconds of track action. The rest has been comercials and

Re: t-and-f: niyongabo?

2001-06-10 Thread Panayotis Christopoulos
Some problem with his foot, at least that was what I heard him saying to one of the managers immediately after the race. PANAYOTIS CHRISTOPOULOS - Original Message - From: Joel Tetreault [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TrackField Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 4:18 AM

re: t-and-f: times on NC state records

2001-06-10 Thread ppalmer
At the North Carolina state meet a few yrs ago a team was credited with a time that established a new state record, 42 something. Everyone knew an error had been made but all refused to chnage the time to the correct one and the coach insusted his boys had run that fast even though their

Re: t-and-f: TV Track Coverage?

2001-06-10 Thread Mpplatt
In a message dated 6/10/01 5:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If today's broadcast of the Palo Alto meet is any indication of the quality of the Edmonton Worlds, we are all better off watching reruns of old sitcoms on Nickolodian TV. In the past 20 minutes of

Re: t-and-f: Let the Iverson thing go

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Web split 47.2... it wouldn't surprise me if he splits 46.? while at Michigan. Not quite 45, but not too shabby either. William Chirchir runs 1:43 in the 8 and 3:50 (faster) in the mile. I bet he can run 45.? in a split... you have to to be able to run 1:43. El G, Ngeny, Morcelli in

RE: t-and-f: Yeah CBS

2001-06-10 Thread Greg Hipp
As long as the meet coverage stays like it is it only hurts the sport in my opinion. If you have bad coverage the average Joe changes the channel and say's "Track sucks". Bad coverage gives the average person the wrong idea about track. Today's coverage was boring, poor, horrible, etc I

re: t-and-f: times on NC state records

2001-06-10 Thread Robert Hersh
I might point out that under IAAF and USATF rules, if an automatic timing device is NOT started by the starter's pistol, the film or image itself is supposed to show that. (The two rules have slightly differerent wording but identical intent.) Bob H

Re: t-and-f: off topic

2001-06-10 Thread Randy Treadway
On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:04:05 -0400, you wrote: I train my runners to run with spikes during 200 m repeats or 300 m. . My friend a coach dose not agree he feels they should use them only during 30m , 60.m speed work. Need other opions on this matter. Please , you may respond off list. Thanks.

t-and-f: Announcement of XV ITFCA Congress

2001-06-10 Thread Yukito Muraki
Dear listers: This is an announcement of XV Congress on behalf fo ITFCA President, G.G.Dales. Anyone who is interested in to take part the congress, please contact directly him to the following address: George G. Dales, ITFCA President 1705 Evanston Ave., Kalamazoo, MI 49008

t-and-f: Jeff Faraudo (The Oakland Tribune) at Stanford

2001-06-10 Thread Conning
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t-and-f: John Crumpacker at Stanford

2001-06-10 Thread Conning
URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/06/10/SP184867.DTL Keith Conning 735 Brookside Drive Vacaville, CA 95688-3509 FAX: 707-448-7667 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://hometown.aol.com/conning/myhomepage/index.html

Re: t-and-f: Arrogant officials and decisions...

2001-06-10 Thread JimRTimes
In a message dated 6/8/01 11:56:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2. Appropriate training for officials, not just meeting to look at old films or discuss how things used to be. Is track the only sport where an official can be certified w/o ever having seen, much less worked, a meet? To pass

Re: t-and-f: Let the Iverson thing go

2001-06-10 Thread Michael Bartolina
I think Darrell was refering to exactly what you said, Webb is a 47.0 guy right now. That is a long way from 45. And yes, most of the top milers in the world can split 45, but spliting 45 and running 45 open are miles apart as well. I get tired of people throwing around the time of 45 seconds

Re: t-and-f: Golden West Results

2001-06-10 Thread Bob Ramsak
www.dyestat.com has complete results... - | Bob Ramsak | TRACK PROFILE News Service | *Images, Features and Coverage of Track Field, Road Racing and Olympic Sport |Cleveland, Ohio USA |[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.trackprofile.com |

t-and-f: Come on!!!

2001-06-10 Thread Dgs1170
PAY ATTENTION!!! The email address is different and so are the initials. There is no excuse for making such a mistake. Darrell has said nothing on the subject of Iverson. Geesh! DGS Faith is a road seldom traveled Let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus,