t-and-f: tony waldrop

2001-06-29 Thread Gcral
Morehead Scholar, former track star, to lead Carolina research initiatives By L.J. TOLER UNC News Services CHAPEL HILL -- Yes. You can go home again. The appointment of Dr. Tony G. Waldrop, a Morehead Scholar and track star at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill in the 1970s, today

Re: t-and-f: Competing at NATS- was a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Dgs1170
In a message dated 06/28/2001 11:49:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So personal appearances are great, but let's not lose sight of which is the frosting and which is the cake. I do not disagree, but let's not forget that the cake is better with frosting. Right now we

t-and-f: IAAF: IAAF Golden league opens in Rome - Gebrselassie's 5000m mark under threath

2001-06-29 Thread Wilmar Kortleever
LS I think it will not prove that easy to break a Gebreselassie record, but we'll see. Regards, Wilmar Courtesy IAAF. International Amateur Athletic Federation IAAF GOLDEN LEAGUE OPENS IN ROME - GEBRSELASSIE’S 5000M MARK UNDER THREAT 26 June 2001 Monte-Carlo - Monaco - Thirty seven Olympic

Re: t-and-f: Competing at NATS- was a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Dgs1170
In a message dated 06/28/2001 2:33:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Subfour359 writes: PLEASE, SPARE ME!! He did what was best for him, another selfish act on behalf of a superstar. Period. End of story. I am sorry you are so closed minded that this is all you have to offer to this discussion.

Re: t-and-f: booing Maurice (was a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Dgs1170
In a message dated 06/28/2001 12:44:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The next night, when announcing the lane draws for the semis, I was unfortunately unable to convince them to pull his name off the scoreboard, but when I did the lane intro, I simply skipped over his

t-and-f: U.S. TV Alert

2001-06-29 Thread WMurphy25
Rome's Golden Gala, which takes place today, will be shown on ESPN tomorrow (6-30) from 7-8pm(EDT). Most of the other Golden League meets will have same-day coverage. Walt Murphy P.S. Rome entries are on the IAAF's website (www.iaaf.org) under the Grand Prix link. Has anyone seen actual

RE: t-and-f: Gabe's and Lassiters form?

2001-06-29 Thread malmo
Greg Fredericks. Looked the same at :48 pace as 1:05 pace. With all this talk on form and efficiency, who out there are the most efficient runners that you have all seen? clearly Frank Shorter gh

t-and-f: Fwd: [Oztrack] US hurdler alleges attack by former coach

2001-06-29 Thread FranciCash
In a message dated 6/29/01 8:26:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.usatoday.com/olympics/track/2001-06-28-kirkland.htm Hurdler alleges attack by former coach By Dick Patrick, USA TODAY Anjanette Kirkland, third in the 100-meter hurdles June 24 at the U.S.

Re: t-and-f: Gabe's and Lassiters form?

2001-06-29 Thread MaggieMaePup
In a message dated 6/29/01 7:52:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greg Fredericks. Looked the same at :48 pace as 1:05 pace. With all this talk on form and efficiency, who out there are the most efficient runners that you have all seen? clearly Frank Shorter

t-and-f: IAAF Golden league opens in Rome - Gebrselassie's 5000m mark under threat...not

2001-06-29 Thread Post, Marty
The reason the mark probably won't fall is because the IAAF hyperbole is claiming Europe's best male distance runner of the moment will be running the race. Nope. No disrespect to Sammy Kipketer, but the best male distance runner in the world this year ain't running the race: Ali

t-and-f: startlists for Rome tonight

2001-06-29 Thread Joel Tetreault
someone posted if there were startlists available for the Rome Golden Gala meet. The IAAF has them up now: http://www.iaaf.org/GLE01/index.asp?page=/gp01/GLERoma/Results/byevent.html Joel [.sig] AXAF Public Outreach: http://xrtpub.harvard.edu Morceli Home Page:

t-and-f: Anjanette Kirkland alleges attack by John Smith

2001-06-29 Thread Post, Marty
USA TODAY reports that Anjanette Kirkland is alleging a black eye, a swollen nose and bumps on the head suffered the night the USATF meet ended were from a brawl involving high-profile coach John Smith. Kirkland also says her mother was choked by Smith. Full story at

RE: t-and-f: theoretical match-race amongst young gods

2001-06-29 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
Ritz. Saw him 5-6 times this year and every time I thought it was more impressive than Webb's 8:45yi race. Brian McEwen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: theoretical

Re: t-and-f: IAAF Golden league opens in Rome - Gebrselassie's 5000m mark und...

2001-06-29 Thread Runtenkm
I realize tickets need to be sold but why does the sport consistently set itself up for the negative publicity of "failed" record attempts? If the Rome 5000 ends up in a blanket finish in 12:51 it will reported as a negative rather than the race it is supposed to be amongst many of the world's

Re: t-and-f: startlists for Rome tonight

2001-06-29 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 6/29/01 9:17:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: someone posted if there were startlists available for the Rome Golden Gala meet. The IAAF has them up now: Those are only the entry listslane assignments are still missing. Walt Murphy

Re: t-and-f: startlists for Rome tonight

2001-06-29 Thread Ívar Benediktsson
You can also find info regarding Rome tonight at www.goldengala.it regards, Ívar Benediktsson journalist, Morgunbladid, Iceland [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +354 569 1256 mobile: +354 899 4271

t-and-f: Just a thought

2001-06-29 Thread Wilmar Kortleever
Hello all, On the great athletics mailing service 'Cool Running Webwatch' (http://www.coolrunning.com.au), Doug Fry put these two articles (see below) next to eachother. That suddenly made me wonder about higher olympic politics: Will IOC members vote for an Canadian IOC president AND for a

RE: t-and-f: Competing at NATS- was a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
Why would he go after the wr while he was running for free? Uhhh ... there are lots of reasons. Some of them, you and perhaps Maurice have lost sight of. I didn't realize that WR's were only personally satisfying when you get a big payday after setting one. Here are a couple reasons to

t-and-f: Re: WC qualifyinh

2001-06-29 Thread The Barretts
The World Championships need straight entry standards PERIOD, and perhaps auto entries for depending champions. Get rid of the national representation stuff. Make it a TRUE world championship. If that means 12 Kenyans in the Steeple final, so be it. Would Mills have made the Olympic team in '64

Re: t-and-f: Competing at NATS- was a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Dgs1170
Keep it in context Brian. There are many reasons to do it, and that is why he went after it. I was asking because people are questioning Maurice's motives to running that one round. My point is that it was not for himself because if he were that selfish he would have jogged down the track, and

Re: t-and-f: Re: WC qualifyinh

2001-06-29 Thread Dave Carey
The World Championships need straight entry standards PERIOD, and perhaps auto entries for depending champions. Get rid of the national representation stuff. Make it a TRUE world championship. If that means 12 Kenyans in the Steeple final, so be it. Sports that have any significant

t-and-f: Rome Start Time

2001-06-29 Thread Conway
Does anyone know what time (Rome time) the Golden Gala is scheduled to start ??? Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: t-and-f: Rome Start Time

2001-06-29 Thread Dgs1170
goldengala.it Faith is a road seldom traveled Let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" Hebrews 12: 1-2

t-and-f: GP Circuit starting times

2001-06-29 Thread GHTFNedit
Golden League: Rome 20:30 Paris 19:30 Oslo 19:45 Monaco 19:30 Zürich 18:00 Brussels 18:00 Berlin 19:30 GP I: Lausanne 18:00 Nice 19:30 Stockholm 18:30 London 13:00 Melbourne TBA GP II: Zagreb 19:00 Gateshead 13:00 Linz 18:30 Rieti 19:00 (after several years of persistence by yours truly as a

t-and-f: dang time zones

2001-06-29 Thread GHTFNedit
oops, added 10 hours to get to Rome from here sted of 9 (musta confused it w/ Athens). so my previous post about just after start was an hour premature.

Re: t-and-f: Re: WC qualifyinh

2001-06-29 Thread Roger Ruth
Dave Carey wrote, The World Championships need straight entry standards PERIOD, and perhaps auto entries for depending champions. Get rid of the national representation stuff. Make it a TRUE world championship. If that means 12 Kenyans in the Steeple final, so be it. Amen, Dave, amen. As I

Re: t-and-f: Re: WC qualifyinh

2001-06-29 Thread Conway
I agree with the concept of the true World Championships ... Curious as to why there would be difficulty authenticating marks with all of the official lists that are out there ??? Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

t-and-f: best times for place, women's 3000 meters

2001-06-29 Thread Post, Marty
At Rome today, the 2nd thru 5th place finishers in the womens 3000m scored the best ever Non-Chinese times for place: 1 , Yegorova Olga, RUS, 8:23.96 2 , Zadorozhnaya Yelena, RUS, 8:25.40 3 , Tomashova Tatyana, RUS, 8:25.56 4 , Szabo Gabriela, ROM, 8:26.44 5 , Radcliffe Paula, GBR, 8:26.97

t-and-f: Rome Grand Prix - Live Radio Broadcast

2001-06-29 Thread Eamonn Condon
Short notice, but you can hear live radio coverage of the Rome Grand Prix Meet at 1.00PM Pacific Go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/ and click on the Five Live button. Eamonn Condon www.RunnersGoal.com

Re: t-and-f: theoretical match-race amongst young gods

2001-06-29 Thread Tom Fleming
on 6/28/01 9:42 PM, Steve Grathwohl at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 08:09 PM 6/28/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so let's suppose that Webb and Ritz and met at either GWI or the Stanford Invite (choice of meet is simply the weekend exactly between the showing of peak form for each, Webb

Re: t-and-f: Re: WC qualifyinh

2001-06-29 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 29 Jun 2001 2:44:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Ruth) writes: As I recall, the original concept for the WC was just that, and the selection of the world's best, irrespective of nationality, was supposed to distinguish it from the Olympics

Re: t-and-f: Re: WC qualifyinh

2001-06-29 Thread Dave Carey
The quote was taken from somebody else's message. The sender of the original quote was unidentified. Apparently, it appeared to several people that the quote was from me. What I wrote took exactly the oppositite viewpoint. I argued in favor of a limit of three per nation in any single

t-and-f: more best times for place, men's mile

2001-06-29 Thread Post, Marty
Golden Gala mile, best ever 5th, 6th and 7th place times; record 6 men under 3:50, old record 4 Bislett '97 1, 15, EL GUERROUJ, Hicham, MAR, 3:44.95 2, 20, LAGAT, Bernard, KEN, 3:47.28 3, 23, DIAZ, Andres, ESP, 3:48.38 4, 24, REDOLAT, Josè, ESP, 3:49.60 5, 26, MUCHERU, Leonard, KEN, 3:49.75 6,

t-and-f: Academic honors

2001-06-29 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: The posting on Tony Waldrop's new position at NCU suggests a new all-time list composed of persons like him who have distinguished themselves academically or professionally in later life. Two obvious nominations would be, for the LJ, the late Meredith Gourdine, and, for the

t-and-f: USATF Release: Team USA takes on Great Britain Russia Sunday in Glasgow

2001-06-29 Thread Usatfcom99
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Friday, June 29, 2001 Team USA takes on Great Britain Russia Sunday in Glasgow

Re: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Mike Rohl
Netters Eric wrote: Be it the weather conditions or the athletes feeling the loss of US's track and field leader, I must say that there are many, many athletes who in no way think of Michael Johnson in anyway a leader in our sport. He has managed to completely alienate himself from just

Re: t-and-f: Academic honors

2001-06-29 Thread vincent duncan
Dr. Meriweather to that list Ed Grant wrote: Netters: The posting on Tony Waldrop's new position at NCU suggests a new all-time list composed of persons like him who have distinguished themselves academically or professionally in later life. Two obvious nominations would be, for the LJ, the

Re: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Mike Rohl
Netters Darrel wrote A big push for the nationals would be the reestablishment of the relationship between the federation and the athlete. There is none right now. It began decades ago and is now blowing up right before our eyes. This current wave of rule changes and proposals drove a

Re: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Mike Rohl
Netters Darrell wrote: We are skating the issue here. Yes, there is the AAC, but they are the same people that feel slighted. This is exactly what I am speaking about. The athletes do not feel as though they have an adequate voice in the function of the federation and its decision

Re: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread LOVE91397
In a message dated 01-06-29 19:03:40 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I must say that there are many, many athletes who in no way think of Michael Johnson in anyway a leader in our sport. He has managed to completely alienate himself from just about any event longer than 400m and in the

Re: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Mike Rohl
Netters Louise Forwarded: THE NO FALSE START RULE DISCRIMINATION AGAINST SPRINTERS WHEREAS the start for the sprinter/hurdler is a complex part of the race and sprinters/hurdlers are the only athletes symbiotically linked with another person, the

t-and-f: Golden Gala Results

2001-06-29 Thread Michael J. Roth
IAAF Golden League Golden Gala Roma, 29-Jun-2001 RESULTS MEN GP 100 METRES - MENCombined Results Pts 1 Greene Maurice USA 10.01 12.0 2 Montgomery Tim

Re: t-and-f: Re: WC qualifyinh

2001-06-29 Thread Randall Northam
on 29/6/01 8:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have a serious memory-loss problem here, but I recall no thoughts that the WC would ever be conducted in a manner other than the OG (except in the eager minds of hard-core fans who wanted a real WC). A long, long time

t-and-f: Kenyan Champs

2001-06-29 Thread GHTFNedit
these results will undoubtedly be of interest to many of you. Look at some of those times at altitude! Imagine what would happen if they had another OG in Mexico City. thanks to Athletics International for being original source of results as they came to TFN. KENYA MEN Nairobi,

t-and-f: Golden Gala part II

2001-06-29 Thread Michael J. Roth
GP 3000 METRES - WOMEN Pts 1 Yegorova OlgaRUS8:23.96 12.0 2 Zadorozhnaya Yelena RUS8:25.40 10.0 3 Tomashova TatyanaRUS8:25.56 9.0 4 Szabo

Re: t-and-f: booing Maurice (was a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Fri, 29 Jun 2001 4:07:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This reminds me of a rule that I have been meaning to question. What was wrong with eliminating Maurice from the semi final, and allowing Floyd Heard to run the semi's? It was clear that

Re: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Mike Rohl
Netters Ed Parrot wrote: I believe that the relatively small amount of prize money this year was a good first step. Don't be misled here by those press releases - that was not prize money. It was USOC stipends disguised as prize money and further not every winner gets one. Its the same

RE: t-and-f: Golden Gala Results

2001-06-29 Thread Andrew Fitzhugh
Golden Gala Roma, 29-Jun-2001 ... 3000 M STEEPLECHASE - MEN Pts 7 Broe Tim USA8:14.82 5.0 This is a good result for Broe -- is that a PR? -- Andy

RE: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread malmo
C'mon, Larry, MJ ran fast as hell, maybe faster, but a leader? This was an athlete who didn't give a damn about 'the sport'. He didn't show any respect for anyone. Alan Webb, in less than a month, has given more to the sport than MJ did in ten years. MJ was a taker. malmo You kidding,

t-and-f: Curious coincidence

2001-06-29 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: It is quite a conicidence from out NJ viewpoint that the two HS superstars, Alan Webb and Dathan Ritzenheim, will both be under NJ-bred college coaches, Mark Wetmore (Bernards) at Colorado and Ron Warhust (Nutley) at Michigan. Mark is still remembered here quite well, as his was

t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Macdezal
Larry, The point was about him being seen as a leader (which he is not). Yes, he accomplished great things on the track. Dominating the sprints for 10 years does not make you a leader or respected as one by your peers. It was never more evident what many athletes thought of him as a leader

Re: t-and-f: theoretical match-race amongst young gods

2001-06-29 Thread Jason Michael Blank
- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] so let's suppose that Webb and Ritz and met at either GWI or the Stanford Invite (choice of meet is simply the weekend exactly between the showing of peak form for each, Webb in the Pre mile, Ritz in the USATF

RE: t-and-f: Golden Gala Results

2001-06-29 Thread Ben Hall
A big one. As far as I can tell his PR before this was 8:21.50 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Fitzhugh Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:31 PM To: TF Listserve Subject: RE: t-and-f: Golden Gala Results Golden Gala Roma,

RE: t-and-f: Kenyan Champs

2001-06-29 Thread malmo
these results will undoubtedly be of interest to many of you. Look at some of those times at altitude! Imagine what would happen if they had another OG in Mexico City. Yeah, imagine. Kip Keino would still be the fastest. malmo

Re: t-and-f: list makeup (was Webb could be the one)

2001-06-29 Thread Edward Koch
The bookies must not be talking to Dwight. At the airport leaving Eugene, I asked and he said too many posts and not enough time... Ed Koch -Original Message- From: Randy Treadway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 23, 2001 10:39 AM Subject:

Re: t-and-f: Golden Gala Results

2001-06-29 Thread Runtenkm
Isn't Broe now the 5th fastest American? Steve S.

Re: t-and-f: a huge loss to the sport

2001-06-29 Thread Mike Rohl
Netters Larry wrote: You kidding, right? So does MJ have to dominate the world in the 5000m to be considered a leader in the sport of track field? No, Larry, i am not kidding. But, You have mis understood what I meant by leader. What the original poster implied that MJ was leader as in