On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
ummm, does this type of semantic (with two inconsistent tags, one has
priority)
appear anywhere else in OSM?
There are lots of places where tag inconsistency can arise (eg,
highway=cycleway, bicycle=no) but I'm not
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
While the list of surface values is *potentially* unbounded, it is
finite at any given time. For practical purposes, just teach that list
of surface values on the wiki to your renderer, do a quick tagwatch
check to find
I think surface started as a binary paved/unpaved for roads (with
paved assumed by default, and paved meaning tarmac), and has got
extended to cover cobbled roads, and (subsequently) as a way of adding
more info for tracks/paths.
So for most purposes, the principal distinction is between paved
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
There's a bit of a grey area for well-maintained unsealed paths/roads,
but the binary paved=yes/no doesn't really help. I tend to use other
clues - that it's got a higher road classification, or is
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
I think surface started as a binary paved/unpaved for roads (with
paved assumed by default, and paved meaning tarmac), and has got
extended to cover cobbled roads, and (subsequently) as a way of adding
On 19 July 2010 19:06, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
And since paved is usually shorthand for can be driven on safely at
full speed without getting the car dirty, you might include
surface=metal, surface=paving_stones...
surface=wood for wooden bridges...
On 7/19/10 2:55 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
i might add that if we're looking at the introduction of new semantics in
order
to make adding unpaved=yes/no ok, it's going to take a great deal to
convince
me.
It's
2010/7/16 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net:
On 7/15/10 5:45 PM, John Smith wrote:
On 16 July 2010 07:42, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
Can't find it on the wiki - do you have a ref?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:paved
I did that, because of 2
On 19.07.2010 09:06, Steve Bennett wrote:
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote:
While the list of surface values is *potentially* unbounded, it is
finite at any given time. For practical purposes, just teach that list
of surface values on the wiki to your
On 19.07.2010 13:16, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:paved
I did that, because of 2 reasons:
1) there is a number of users who think that surface gets more and
more complicate to evaluate due to the level of detail. They say (and
it is IMHO true for some
I've updated the wiki page to try to explain it more clearly. I've
included Martin's paved=yes flag (though personally, I'd probably just
make it clear in the table that some values such as concrete should be
treated as paved)
Richard
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On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
I've updated the wiki page to try to explain it more clearly. I've
included Martin's paved=yes flag (though personally, I'd probably just
make it clear in the table that some values such as concrete
On 19 July 2010 19:06, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote:
No, because there is:
surface=paved
surface=asphalt
surface=concrete
surface=cement
And since paved is usually shorthand for can be driven on safely at
full speed without getting the car dirty, you might include
2010/7/19 Pieren pier...@gmail.com:
I think that's really stupid. Again, just to make 0.5% contributors happy,
we create a dupplicated tag ... Then wait 2 months and a newcomer will ask
what's the difference between 'surface=paved' and 'paved=yes' ?.
the difference is that surface=paved is
On 19 July 2010 23:33, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
the difference is that surface=paved is preliminary and paved=yes is definite.
What's the difference between surface=paved and surface=cobblestone
and surface=asphalt? That is the question to which surface=paved
cannot
2010/7/19 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
On 19 July 2010 23:33, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
the difference is that surface=paved is preliminary and paved=yes is
definite.
What's the difference between surface=paved and surface=cobblestone
and surface=asphalt?
I don't think we're reaching any consensus that key:paved is an idea
to be positively recommended, so I think it's probably best to record
it in the wiki as some people do this.
I think the wiki would also benefit from a few notes saying which
values should be treated as paved (in the sense of
On 19 July 2010 23:54, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
I don't think we're reaching any consensus that key:paved is an idea
to be positively recommended, so I think it's probably best to record
it in the wiki as some people do this.
Won't this still confuse people?
2010/7/19 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
On 19 July 2010 23:47, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
No, I didn't miss that. I was replying to Pieren in the cited message.
You're right, it is not impossible, still it requires a bit of effort
due to the number of surface
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 11:54 PM, Richard Mann
richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
I don't think we're reaching any consensus that key:paved is an idea
to be positively recommended, so I think it's probably best to record
it in the wiki as some people do this.
I think the wiki would
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