Hi,
How about a fire extinguisher[1]?
Could it be included to fire_hydrant tag?
Seems the same purpose to me.
They are equipped by local government mainly along with residential
roads/living streets for emergency use in Japan.
[1]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Fire_extinguisher_ja.jpg
On 27 July 2010 15:59, S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp wrote:
How about a fire extinguisher[1]?
I don't think this is a good idea, as they are 2 completely different things...
Could it be included to fire_hydrant tag?
Seems the same purpose to me.
They are equipped by local government
Pre-processing isn't really an option for Kosmos, Maperitive,
MapCSS/Halcyon (and judging by the number of rendering tags it spawns)
Osmarender.
Rendering is not something that only the gods do, there are tools
arriving that will make it a lot lot easier to render. When these
people render, they
Why do taggers have to compensate for poorly written programs making
use of the data?
On 7/27/10, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:
Pre-processing isn't really an option for Kosmos, Maperitive,
MapCSS/Halcyon (and judging by the number of rendering tags it spawns)
On 27 July 2010 20:27, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
Why does the data model have to make it so difficult for data consumers in
the first place?
So this is another case of the current API limiting things?
I'd love to be able to micromap lanes, not just ways, which might fix
the
On 27/07/2010 12:05, David Earl wrote:
... You don't need anyone's permission to do this. If you do a good job and
promote it, it might catch on...
which is one of the key reasons why I think Tag Central [1] would help us.
David
[1] http://www.frankieandshadow.com/sotm10/
On 27 July 2010 21:05, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
You could invent a tagging scheme that would let you model lanes. You could,
for example, create a way tagged
highway=lane
or
lane=1 [2, 3, ...]
or some such - certainly needs some thought - maybe qualified with who can
On 27 July 2010 21:27, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
On 27/07/2010 12:05, David Earl wrote:
... You don't need anyone's permission to do this. If you do a good job
and
promote it, it might catch on...
which is one of the key reasons why I think Tag Central [1] would help us.
On 27/07/2010 12:30, John Smith wrote:
On 27 July 2010 21:27, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
On 27/07/2010 12:05, David Earl wrote:
... You don't need anyone's permission to do this. If you do a good job
and
promote it, it might catch on...
which is one of the key reasons why
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:12 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
How about a fire extinguisher[1]?
I don't think this is a good idea, as they are 2 completely different
things...
t... but I'd tag them separately...
+1
--
Bill
n1...@arrl.net bill.n1...@gmail.com
I agree that fire hydrants and fire extinguishers should be tagged differently.
While both are used for putting out fires, fire extinguishers (a) are limited
to use on smaller fires, and (b) are useful by themselves, whereas you need a
suitable hose in order to use a fire hydrant )and so are
On 27 July 2010 22:33, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Using the same tag for both could cost lives, by making delays in finding the
necessary equipment (fire hydrant or fire extinguisher) to fight the fire in
question.
While it may be useful to tag these things on OSM, I don't
On 27/07/2010 13:51, John Smith wrote:
On 27 July 2010 22:33, John F. Eldredgej...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Using the same tag for both could cost lives, by making delays in
finding the necessary equipment (fire hydrant or fire extinguisher)
to fight the fire in question.
While it may be useful
On 27 July 2010 13:51, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 July 2010 22:33, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Using the same tag for both could cost lives, by making delays in finding
the necessary equipment (fire hydrant or fire extinguisher) to fight the
fire in
2010/7/27 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
On 27 July 2010 22:33, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
Using the same tag for both could cost lives, by making delays in finding
the necessary equipment (fire hydrant or fire extinguisher) to fight the
fire in question.
While it
On 27 July 2010 23:05, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote:
Why not? As any other map, it has to be taken with piece of salt
Typical CYA legal stuff, that is unless you want to be personally
liable for mistakes you make which cost someone their life...
On 27 July 2010 22:58, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
Like an earthquake in Haiti, for example,...
I'd rather not be sued because someone thought they might be able to
do something with the data that turned out to be false...
___
Tagging
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:27 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
You cannot tell from our model, without additional information such as a
relation, whether two parallel ways are part of a dual carriageway or just
parallel roads.
What's the difference? Just whether or not they
On 27/07/2010 15:58, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:27 AM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
You cannot tell from our model, without additional information such as a
relation, whether two parallel ways are part of a dual carriageway or just
parallel roads.
What's the
2010/7/27 David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com:
On 27/07/2010 10:21, John Smith wrote:
Why do taggers have to compensate for poorly written programs making
use of the data?
Why does the data model have to make it so difficult for data consumers in
the first place?
You cannot tell from
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:06 AM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
On 27/07/2010 15:58, Anthony wrote:
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:27 AM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com
wrote:
You cannot tell from our model, without additional information such as a
relation, whether two
At 2010-07-27 06:18, John Smith wrote:
On 27 July 2010 22:58, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:
Like an earthquake in Haiti, for example,...
I'd rather not be sued because someone thought they might be able to
do something with the data that turned out to be false...
Doesn't our
Yes, but my point was that fire extinguishers are not interchangeable with fire
hydrants. If you don't have a fire hose on hand, a fire hydrant won't be of
any benefit to you, but a fire extinguisher might be of use. Also, if the fire
has already grown beyond what can be put out with a fire
At 2010-07-27 11:41, John F. Eldredge wrote:
Yes, but my point was that fire extinguishers are not interchangeable with
fire hydrants.
I did not quote, and was not arguing with, that.
I agree that hydrants and extinguishers should be tagged differently.
At 2010-07-27 06:18, John Smith
S. Higashi stated, earlier in the thread, that the Japanese government provided
fire extinguisher stations along some residential streets, and posted a link to
a photograph:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Fire_extinguisher_ja.jpg. Such a
fire extinguisher station would be useful to
On 7/27/10 6:57 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote:
S. Higashi stated, earlier in the thread, that the Japanese government provided fire
extinguisher stations along some residential streets, and posted a link to a
photograph:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Fire_extinguisher_ja.jpg.
Such a
On 28 July 2010 13:51, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
there is a whole suite of emergency related things that are not currently
handled, for example, in the US, EMS services are frequently housed
separately from fire departments and there's no tag codified for that
at present that
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