Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Fire_Hydrant

2010-07-28 Thread Colin Smale
I think there might be more types of public fire control equipment... I remember often seeing fire beaters (broomstick with flaps of rubber/leather) in a rack on moor and heathland prone to fires. Maybe amenity=fire_beater can be added to the proposal? Colin On 28/07/2010 02:41, Richard

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-28 Thread Ross Scanlon
The right long term solution for this stuff is to use country-specific tags, (eg, in australia we could use amenity=ses_station or something), and to centrally define (in machine-readable terms) what those country-specific tags are. But I think we're a fair way from being able to implement

[Tagging] Service=* used for highways and railways

2010-07-28 Thread Steve Bennett
For some reason it completely escaped me that service=* is supposed to be used for both railways (eg, service=spur) and roads (service=alley). I don't really want to debate this situation with a view to changing it, but could someone give me a quick explanation on how this arose? It seems a little

Re: [Tagging] Service=* used for highways and railways

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 July 2010 17:25, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: For some reason it completely escaped me that service=* is supposed to be used for both railways (eg, service=spur) and roads (service=alley). I don't really want to debate this situation with a view to changing it, but could

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Fire_Hydrant

2010-07-28 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-27 23:25, Colin Smale wrote: I think there might be more types of public fire control equipment... I remember often seeing fire beaters (broomstick with flaps of rubber/leather) in a rack on moor and heathland prone to fires. Maybe amenity=fire_beater can be added to the proposal?

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Fire_Hydrant

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 July 2010 17:50, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: There are also fire hoses which are attached to building water supplies and fan-folded inside largish glass-front metal cases inset into walls. emergency=fire_hose maybe, though I'd like something that better indicates that

Re: [Tagging] Bridges and layers

2010-07-28 Thread James Livingston
On 28/07/2010, at 1:13 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: I think that there is definitely space for a bridge-relation to deal with all these informations and bring them together. An alternative might be to draw an (additional) polygon for the bridge area in projection (with common nodes on the

Re: [Tagging] Bridges and layers

2010-07-28 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:27 AM, James Livingston li...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: Someone mentioned http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Bridges_and_Tunnels up-thread, is there anything it doesn't cover? I've been using it for over a year, although I haven't mapped any

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-28 Thread fly
Am 28.07.2010 13:02, schrieb John F. Eldredge: I agree that tagging such things as emergency would make more sense than tagging them as amenity. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] emergency=* From :mailto:i...@4x4falcon.com Date :Wed Jul 28 02:09:41 America/Chicago 2010

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
Did I miss anything currently being mentioned in this or the fire hydrant thread? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Emergency ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 7/28/10 8:45 AM, John Smith wrote: Did I miss anything currently being mentioned in this or the fire hydrant thread? the fire hydrant language is overly specific; out here in the sticks, we have what are called dry hydrants adjacent to ponds (there's a photo of an example associated with

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 July 2010 23:45, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: the fire hydrant language is overly specific; out here in the CP from wikipedia... and there is always the little edit button/links to help improve it :) ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-28 Thread S.Higashi
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Emergency Are these tags approved? Also i was surprised to see office tags. I haven't ever seen these tags. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Office ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 28 July 2010 23:57, S.Higashi s_hig...@mua.biglobe.ne.jp wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Emergency Are these tags approved? Check out some of the comments on the minor tag proposals lately when it comes to voting, most just suggest you use it if it seems sensible and

Re: [Tagging] emergency=*

2010-07-28 Thread David Earl
On 28/07/2010 15:09, S.Higashi wrote: I'm confused because I was thinking that tags on Map_Features page were all approved tags.. There is no such thing as an approved tag. David ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Service=* used for highways and railways

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 01:14, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, that's the bit I found odd. I guess there are other examples of a tag meaning two different things depending on what the main tag is (eg, voltage=* can go with power=line, or railway=rail, electrified=yes). I'm sure soon

[Tagging] office=*

2010-07-28 Thread Mike N.
I'm confused because I was thinking that tags on Map_Features page were all approved tags.. Sometimes even approved tags are not useful. I tagged a large number of approved contact:phone= , but found that OSM map data consumers I looked at all used the *disapproved* tag phone=. Tagwatch

Re: [Tagging] office=*

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 01:19, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: - Should I just put a redirect to office= on the proposal pages? Up to you, alternatively you can just copy and paste bits of content/text that would be useful... ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Service=* used for highways and railways

2010-07-28 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:16 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: electrified=yes). I'm sure soon enough we'll have a major collision, so to speak... you mean like power=station/generator etc? No. From a technical standpoint, there's actually not a problem there, it's technically a

Re: [Tagging] Bridges and layers

2010-07-28 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/28 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: The relation's scope goes beyond parallel dual-carriage ways. +1, and I don't see why we shouldn't have it. They will be less complicated for following mappers than routes are for instance. Suppose there's a parking on top of the bridge, or

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Fire_Hydrant

2010-07-28 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-28 01:49, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:50 AM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: There are also fire hoses which are attached to building water supplies and fan-folded inside largish glass-front metal cases inset into walls. emergency=fire_hose

Re: [Tagging] office=*

2010-07-28 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:23 PM, David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.comwrote: There is no process. That's simply not true and you know it. It's a big difference between there is no process and I don't want to follow a process. Pieren ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] office=*

2010-07-28 Thread John Smith
On 29 July 2010 15:13, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: 5-10k mappers doesn't work, but skipping discussion and inventing tags Don't confuse discussion with voting, voting is flawed and many things are still discussed on the tagging list before being documented on the wiki. based on

Re: [Tagging] office=*

2010-07-28 Thread Tobias Knerr
John Smith wrote: On 29 July 2010 15:13, Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de wrote: 5-10k mappers doesn't work, but skipping discussion and inventing tags Don't confuse discussion with voting, voting is flawed and many things are still discussed on the tagging list before being documented on